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nescac1

This will all be resolved in the next few weeks, and is sure to shift around a lot, but mate, Williams lost to Midd on a last minute TD, Wes got crushed.  Willians outscores opponents by 22 ppg, Wesleyan by ten.  Dramatic difference.   It's pretty clear who - right now - is the second best team in Nescac.  Less clear is who is third. 

That being said, Trinity is better than its record.  In Trinity, the Willians-Trinity battle is a pick 'em.  Or maybe Trinity as a three-point favorite ... no combination of outcomes will surprise me in the upcoming Wes-Ephs-Hurst-Trinity battle royale. 

Canvas Hightops

Yeah, what he said.
No one who watched Midd play both Williams and Wesleyan would rate those two teams as being all that close. 
Right now the Ephs are the last team any coaching staff wants to face.
Wesleyan has the opportunity to show what they got in the next three weeks.  But nescacman, really, they gotta earn it.

UfanBill

I know the NESCAC separates itself from the rest of D3 football but that doesn't mean the posters on this board can't contribute to discussions concerning other D3 leagues or specifically your league on other boards. There's one ongoing now on the East Region Fan Poll board.   I'd like you to be aware of it and believe others would relish the input of your posters...http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5311.6855 

Any opinions? Thanks
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Nescacman

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Quote from: nescac1 on October 24, 2019, 07:41:37 PM
This will all be resolved in the next few weeks, and is sure to shift around a lot, but mate, Williams lost to Midd on a last minute TD, Wes got crushed.  Willians outscores opponents by 22 ppg, Wesleyan by ten.  Dramatic difference.   It's pretty clear who - right now - is the second best team in Nescac.  Less clear is who is third. 

That being said, Trinity is better than its record.  In Trinity, the Willians-Trinity battle is a pick 'em.  Or maybe Trinity as a three-point favorite ... no combination of outcomes will surprise me in the upcoming Wes-Ephs-Hurst-Trinity battle royale.

And Colby should have beat MID and Wes beat Colby pretty good...come on Nescac1 our friend, you know how much (or how little) looking at common opponents matters....

As you said, these teams play each other over the next few weeks so we shall see...

Btw, we also did factor in the Ephs and HCOF Raymond's recent history against the Cards...no need to rehash that until next week...

First decent week of NESCAC football in a long time with 3 interesting games....looking forward to it...

Nescacman

Quote from: UfanBill on October 24, 2019, 08:36:15 PM
I know the NESCAC separates itself from the rest of D3 football but that doesn't mean the posters on this board can't contribute to discussions concerning other D3 leagues or specifically your league on other boards. There's one ongoing now on the East Region Fan Poll board.   I'd like you to be aware of it and believe others would relish the input of your posters...http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5311.6855 

Any opinions? Thanks

As a friend of the Dutchmen, your wish is our command....

nescac1

That's pretty weak sauce Nescacman.  I don't think prior history, when Raymond was still coaching two (or more) classes of dudes  he didn't recruit, is remotely relevant.  For the first tine in Raymond's tenure, this year the Ephs are legit two deep at nearly every position.

Whether by the eye test or statistically, Williams has been better than Wesleyan this year.  Period.  Wesleyan may well beat Williams, no question..   But as of right now, the Ephs are playing better.  I'd say same goes for Trinity, honestly, who really seems to be returning to form.  Just like we can all agree Colby has been the best of the CBB even though they all have the same record. 

Trin9-0

Arguing with Nescacman's rankings is a futile effort. His homerism for Wes is beyond blatant. My personal favorite is that he hammers Trinity for beating up on the Maine schools while losing to real teams. While that may be true, Wesleyan has played identical opponents and thus far the only difference between the two is that the Cards found a way to win a close game at home vs. Tufts while Trinity lost a close game on the road vs. the Jumbos. (I suppose the other differences could be that Wes was embarrassed at Midd, and that they were losing to Bowdoin at halftime, and escaped Brunswick with a 7 point win over the worst team in the league).

It seems pretty clear to objective posters that, at this point in the season, Williams is the second best team in the league. I concede that Wes is ahead of Trinity at the moment, but also stand by my prediction from a few weeks back that the Cardinals could very likely end up 5-4.

Here's how I see the rankings:

1. Middlebury
2. Williams
3. Wesleyan
4. Trinity
    Amherst
6. Hamilton
    Tufts
8. Colby
9. Bates
10. Bowdoin

As for Saturday, I'm excited to see the Bants in person for the first time this season. It's Trinity's homecoming and I'd expect a large crowd on what should be a beautiful day in Hartford. I think Trin is a slight favorite based on little more than the location of the game. As we all know the Bantams are extremely difficult to beat in The Coop with an astonishing home record of 74-2 dating back to 2001.

With that said, Williams is a dangerous team and who as allowed just 8.7 points per game. While Trin leads the league in scoring, most of that production was against the CBB and, as noted earlier, Trinity has struggled against even mid-tier teams this season. Slowing Stola is obviously the key for Trin. I don't think the Ephs will be able to consistently move the ball on the ground, so if the Bants can limit his impact on the game then I like Trinity's chances.

Williams is a significant step up in quality from Trinity's opponents the last two weeks so I hope they come prepared to play from the start of the game. These two programs have a long history of playing thrilling games against each other and I anticipate another one tomorrow.
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Trin9-0

It's worth noting that there will be a pregame reception to report on progress of the athletics fundraising campaign (part of the College's overall comprehensive fundraising campaign) which is likely to include plans for a major renovation to the Ferris Athletics Center and a plans for the new Jessee-Miller Field stadium construction. Based on rumors I've heard, there will be one set of grandstands on the home sideline (similar to Middlebury) with the reverse side providing seating for the adjacent AstroTurf field hockey, and women's lacrosse field. I'm not sure about much else, i.e. if locker rooms, training rooms, meeting/film rooms, a weight room, etc. will be included but will report back on what is presented.
NESCAC CHAMPIONS: 1974, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1996, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022, 2023
UNDEFEATED SEASONS: 1911, 1915, 1934, 1949, 1954, 1955, 1993, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2022

middhoops

Shamefully horning in on others' efforts, but maybe just this one time we can try a "mini poll".
Two 'games of the week' this Saturday.   Wes at Amherst and Williams at Trinity.
Let's all pick 'em.

I'll take Amherst and Williams.

anyone next.....?

NCF

Quote from: middhoops on October 25, 2019, 10:47:31 AM
Shamefully horning in on others' efforts, but maybe just this one time we can try a "mini poll".
Two 'games of the week' this Saturday.   Wes at Amherst and Williams at Trinity.
Let's all pick 'em.

I'll take Amherst and Williams.

anyone next.....?

Same
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Nescacman

Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 25, 2019, 09:46:29 AM
Arguing with Nescacman's rankings is a futile effort. His homerism for Wes is beyond blatant. My personal favorite is that he hammers Trinity for beating up on the Maine schools while losing to real teams. While that may be true, Wesleyan has played identical opponents and thus far the only difference between the two is that the Cards found a way to win a close game at home vs. Tufts while Trinity lost a close game on the road vs. the Jumbos. (I suppose the other differences could be that Wes was embarrassed at Midd, and that they were losing to Bowdoin at halftime, and escaped Brunswick with a 7 point win over the worst team in the league).

It seems pretty clear to objective posters that, at this point in the season, Williams is the second best team in the league. I concede that Wes is ahead of Trinity at the moment, but also stand by my prediction from a few weeks back that the Cardinals could very likely end up 5-4.

Here's how I see the rankings:

1. Middlebury
2. Williams
3. Wesleyan
4. Trinity
    Amherst
6. Hamilton
    Tufts
8. Colby
9. Bates
10. Bowdoin

As for Saturday, I'm excited to see the Bants in person for the first time this season. It's Trinity's homecoming and I'd expect a large crowd on what should be a beautiful day in Hartford. I think Trin is a slight favorite based on little more than the location of the game. As we all know the Bantams are extremely difficult to beat in The Coop with an astonishing home record of 74-2 dating back to 2001.

With that said, Williams is a dangerous team and who as allowed just 8.7 points per game. While Trin leads the league in scoring, most of that production was against the CBB and, as noted earlier, Trinity has struggled against even mid-tier teams this season. Slowing Stola is obviously the key for Trin. I don't think the Ephs will be able to consistently move the ball on the ground, so if the Bants can limit his impact on the game then I like Trinity's chances.

Williams is a significant step up in quality from Trinity's opponents the last two weeks so I hope they come prepared to play from the start of the game. These two programs have a long history of playing thrilling games against each other and I anticipate another one tomorrow.



Nescacman

Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 25, 2019, 09:46:29 AM
Arguing with Nescacman's rankings is a futile effort. His homerism for Wes is beyond blatant. My personal favorite is that he hammers Trinity for beating up on the Maine schools while losing to real teams. While that may be true, Wesleyan has played identical opponents and thus far the only difference between the two is that the Cards found a way to win a close game at home vs. Tufts while Trinity lost a close game on the road vs. the Jumbos. (I suppose the other differences could be that Wes was embarrassed at Midd, and that they were losing to Bowdoin at halftime, and escaped Brunswick with a 7 point win over the worst team in the league).

It seems pretty clear to objective posters that, at this point in the season, Williams is the second best team in the league. I concede that Wes is ahead of Trinity at the moment, but also stand by my prediction from a few weeks back that the Cardinals could very likely end up 5-4.

Here's how I see the rankings:

1. Middlebury
2. Williams
3. Wesleyan
4. Trinity
    Amherst
6. Hamilton
    Tufts
8. Colby
9. Bates
10. Bowdoin

As for Saturday, I'm excited to see the Bants in person for the first time this season. It's Trinity's homecoming and I'd expect a large crowd on what should be a beautiful day in Hartford. I think Trin is a slight favorite based on little more than the location of the game. As we all know the Bantams are extremely difficult to beat in The Coop with an astonishing home record of 74-2 dating back to 2001.

With that said, Williams is a dangerous team and who as allowed just 8.7 points per game. While Trin leads the league in scoring, most of that production was against the CBB and, as noted earlier, Trinity has struggled against even mid-tier teams this season. Slowing Stola is obviously the key for Trin. I don't think the Ephs will be able to consistently move the ball on the ground, so if the Bants can limit his impact on the game then I like Trinity's chances.

Williams is a significant step up in quality from Trinity's opponents the last two weeks so I hope they come prepared to play from the start of the game. These two programs have a long history of playing thrilling games against each other and I anticipate another one tomorrow.

You do realize Hs4-2 that the footer on your posts is totally inaccurate, right?

The NESCAC did not recognize a league champion in football until 2000, so all of those so-called NESCAC championships listed prior to 2000 are fake news...I know as a Hartford State alum that may be tough to comprehend, but you can verify it on the NESCAC website if you wish...

MidDay

Quote from: NCF on October 25, 2019, 10:53:02 AM
Quote from: middhoops on October 25, 2019, 10:47:31 AM
Shamefully horning in on others' efforts, but maybe just this one time we can try a "mini poll".
Two 'games of the week' this Saturday.   Wes at Amherst and Williams at Trinity.
Let's all pick 'em.

I'll take Amherst and Williams.

anyone next.....?

Same

Agreed.  Would love to watch the Williams v Trin game. 

bantamweight

Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 25, 2019, 09:46:29 AM
Arguing with Nescacman's rankings is a futile effort. His homerism for Wes is beyond blatant. My personal favorite is that he hammers Trinity for beating up on the Maine schools while losing to real teams. While that may be true, Wesleyan has played identical opponents and thus far...
He's also the same dimwit who thinks a long run should be removed from average YPC but didn't bother to go back and adjust his stats from the previous year by removing any "long runs." His arguments prove to be error-prone and unimpressive and reflect someone who clearly hasn't played the game. Don't put too much effort into rebutting his rediculous rankings or predictions.

Hawk196

Quote from: bantamweight on October 25, 2019, 12:19:57 PM
Quote from: Trin8-0 on October 25, 2019, 09:46:29 AM
Arguing with Nescacman's rankings is a futile effort. His homerism for Wes is beyond blatant. My personal favorite is that he hammers Trinity for beating up on the Maine schools while losing to real teams. While that may be true, Wesleyan has played identical opponents and thus far...
He's also the same dimwit who thinks a long run should be removed from average YPC but didn't bother to go back and adjust his stats from the previous year by removing any "long runs." His arguments prove to be error-prone and unimpressive and reflect someone who clearly hasn't played the game. Don't put too much effort into rebutting his rediculous rankings or predictions.

But he keeps the board going.....This thing can be dead sometimes