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[Charlie]

PRESENTING TO YOU: A SPECIAL EDITION OF NESCACMAN'S PICKS

SPRINGST7 BRINGS YOU: NESCACMAN: AGAINST THE SPREAD

Favorites ATS: 15-13-2
Underdogs ATS: 13-15-2

Home Teams ATS: 14-14-2
Away Teams ATS: 14-14-2

Best Records ATS:
Trinity (5-0-1)
Williams (4-1-1)
Bates (3-2-1)
Tufts (3-2-1)
Hamilton (3-3)
Bowdoin (2-3-1)
Amherst (2-3-1)
Colby (2-4)
Wesleyan (2-4)
Middlebury (1-5)

Props to NESCACMAN for some surprisingly sharp lines, still don't really understand how setting spreads and then picking different scores works but I hope you all enjoyed!

Thanks Spring, looking forward to having a beer or six with you in Willyville in a few weeks...definitely will hoist a few for our dear, departed friend Renzie...hopefully, Coach Farley will be around to hang-out with us...

As far as the spreads, the idea, as we understand it, based on some reading we did on odds making is to set the spread so that you end up at around the .500 winning percentage and let the $$$ falling where it will and clean-up on the stupid prop bets (which are all sucker bets) so I'd say we're doing more than OK...

How did we end up doing picks and spreads....a brief history lesson on the weekly NESCACMAN pics and the spreads...as many of you know we have been picking weekly winners/losers and predicting scores of every NESCAC football game since 2013...in 2018/2019, one of "youse" guys wanted to wager on particular game and challenged us to also set a spread for all the games, so, of course, we started doing that as well...believe it or not, some of our readers (and other NESCAC "friends"-for the record, no active coaches or players are involved at all) occasionally will wager a shekel or three with us using our spreads...makes things definitely interesting...we are doing pretty well on those wagers this year FYI...thank you Bowdoin, Amhurst, Wes, Tufts, and UBates...

Curious on an off topic what is percentage of players who stay on football teams in NESCAC during their four years. In addition which school has the highest attrition rate of players ?  just curious to know peoples opinions and hunches

[Nescacman]

PRESENTING TO YOU: A SPECIAL EDITION OF NESCACMAN'S PICKS

SPRINGST7 BRINGS YOU: NESCACMAN: AGAINST THE SPREAD

Favorites ATS: 15-13-2
Underdogs ATS: 13-15-2

Home Teams ATS: 14-14-2
Away Teams ATS: 14-14-2

Best Records ATS:
Trinity (5-0-1)
Williams (4-1-1)
Bates (3-2-1)
Tufts (3-2-1)
Hamilton (3-3)
Bowdoin (2-3-1)
Amherst (2-3-1)
Colby (2-4)
Wesleyan (2-4)
Middlebury (1-5)

Props to NESCACMAN for some surprisingly sharp lines, still don't really understand how setting spreads and then picking different scores works but I hope you all enjoyed!

Thanks Spring, looking forward to having a beer or six with you in Willyville in a few weeks...definitely will hoist a few for our dear, departed friend Renzie...hopefully, Coach Farley will be around to hang-out with us...

As far as the spreads, the idea, as we understand it, based on some reading we did on odds making is to set the spread so that you end up at around the .500 winning percentage and let the $$$ falling where it will and clean-up on the stupid prop bets (which are all sucker bets) so I'd say we're doing more than OK...

How did we end up doing picks and spreads....a brief history lesson on the weekly NESCACMAN pics and the spreads...as many of you know we have been picking weekly winners/losers and predicting scores of every NESCAC football game since 2013...in 2018/2019, one of "youse" guys wanted to wager on particular game and challenged us to also set a spread for all the games, so, of course, we started doing that as well...believe it or not, some of our readers (and other NESCAC "friends"-for the record, no active coaches or players are involved at all) occasionally will wager a shekel or three with us using our spreads...makes things definitely interesting...we are doing pretty well on those wagers this year FYI...thank you Bowdoin, Amhurst, Wes, Tufts, and UBates...

Curious on an off topic what is percentage of players who stay on football teams in NESCAC during their four years. In addition which school has the highest attrition rate of players ?  just curious to know peoples opinions and hunches

Charlie, our understanding is that it is currently <10% staying the entire 4 years with most of the 90%+ transferring to either an Ivy, Patriot, CAA, Big Ten, or SEC school by year 3....although the #1 school for attrition from year to year varies, MID was the hardest hit from 2019 to 2021 losing several players to Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State. In fact, Nick Saban recently quoted that he didn't know how he could fill his roster without his NESCAC recruits.   

[Charlie]

PRESENTING TO YOU: A SPECIAL EDITION OF NESCACMAN'S PICKS

SPRINGST7 BRINGS YOU: NESCACMAN: AGAINST THE SPREAD

Favorites ATS: 15-13-2
Underdogs ATS: 13-15-2

Home Teams ATS: 14-14-2
Away Teams ATS: 14-14-2

Best Records ATS:
Trinity (5-0-1)
Williams (4-1-1)
Bates (3-2-1)
Tufts (3-2-1)
Hamilton (3-3)
Bowdoin (2-3-1)
Amherst (2-3-1)
Colby (2-4)
Wesleyan (2-4)
Middlebury (1-5)

Props to NESCACMAN for some surprisingly sharp lines, still don't really understand how setting spreads and then picking different scores works but I hope you all enjoyed!

Thanks Spring, looking forward to having a beer or six with you in Willyville in a few weeks...definitely will hoist a few for our dear, departed friend Renzie...hopefully, Coach Farley will be around to hang-out with us...

As far as the spreads, the idea, as we understand it, based on some reading we did on odds making is to set the spread so that you end up at around the .500 winning percentage and let the $$$ falling where it will and clean-up on the stupid prop bets (which are all sucker bets) so I'd say we're doing more than OK...

How did we end up doing picks and spreads....a brief history lesson on the weekly NESCACMAN pics and the spreads...as many of you know we have been picking weekly winners/losers and predicting scores of every NESCAC football game since 2013...in 2018/2019, one of "youse" guys wanted to wager on particular game and challenged us to also set a spread for all the games, so, of course, we started doing that as well...believe it or not, some of our readers (and other NESCAC "friends"-for the record, no active coaches or players are involved at all) occasionally will wager a shekel or three with us using our spreads...makes things definitely interesting...we are doing pretty well on those wagers this year FYI...thank you Bowdoin, Amhurst, Wes, Tufts, and UBates...

Curious on an off topic what is percentage of players who stay on football teams in NESCAC during their four years. In addition which school has the highest attrition rate of players ?  just curious to know peoples opinions and hunches

Charlie, our understanding is that it is currently <10% staying the entire 4 years with most of the 90%+ transferring to either an Ivy, Patriot, CAA, Big Ten, or SEC school by year 3....although the #1 school for attrition from year to year varies, MID was the hardest hit from 2019 to 2021 losing several players to Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State. In fact, Nick Saban recently quoted that he didn't know how he could fill his roster without his NESCAC recruits.   

I was just curious no need for sarcasm. Just did not know that if a recruiting class of say 25 how many finish there 4 years. I am sorry if it bothered you if I commented on unifom colors it would have been more appropriate.

[Nescacman]

PRESENTING TO YOU: A SPECIAL EDITION OF NESCACMAN'S PICKS

SPRINGST7 BRINGS YOU: NESCACMAN: AGAINST THE SPREAD

Favorites ATS: 15-13-2
Underdogs ATS: 13-15-2

Home Teams ATS: 14-14-2
Away Teams ATS: 14-14-2

Best Records ATS:
Trinity (5-0-1)
Williams (4-1-1)
Bates (3-2-1)
Tufts (3-2-1)
Hamilton (3-3)
Bowdoin (2-3-1)
Amherst (2-3-1)
Colby (2-4)
Wesleyan (2-4)
Middlebury (1-5)

Props to NESCACMAN for some surprisingly sharp lines, still don't really understand how setting spreads and then picking different scores works but I hope you all enjoyed!

Thanks Spring, looking forward to having a beer or six with you in Willyville in a few weeks...definitely will hoist a few for our dear, departed friend Renzie...hopefully, Coach Farley will be around to hang-out with us...

As far as the spreads, the idea, as we understand it, based on some reading we did on odds making is to set the spread so that you end up at around the .500 winning percentage and let the $$$ falling where it will and clean-up on the stupid prop bets (which are all sucker bets) so I'd say we're doing more than OK...

How did we end up doing picks and spreads....a brief history lesson on the weekly NESCACMAN pics and the spreads...as many of you know we have been picking weekly winners/losers and predicting scores of every NESCAC football game since 2013...in 2018/2019, one of "youse" guys wanted to wager on particular game and challenged us to also set a spread for all the games, so, of course, we started doing that as well...believe it or not, some of our readers (and other NESCAC "friends"-for the record, no active coaches or players are involved at all) occasionally will wager a shekel or three with us using our spreads...makes things definitely interesting...we are doing pretty well on those wagers this year FYI...thank you Bowdoin, Amhurst, Wes, Tufts, and UBates...

Curious on an off topic what is percentage of players who stay on football teams in NESCAC during their four years. In addition which school has the highest attrition rate of players ?  just curious to know peoples opinions and hunches

Charlie, our understanding is that it is currently <10% staying the entire 4 years with most of the 90%+ transferring to either an Ivy, Patriot, CAA, Big Ten, or SEC school by year 3....although the #1 school for attrition from year to year varies, MID was the hardest hit from 2019 to 2021 losing several players to Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State. In fact, Nick Saban recently quoted that he didn't know how he could fill his roster without his NESCAC recruits.   

I was just curious no need for sarcasm. Just did not know that if a recruiting class of say 25 how many finish there 4 years. I am sorry if it bothered you if I commented on unifom colors it would have been more appropriate.

You got the wrong guys for anything related to uniforms or colors...and who's being sarcastic?

[xPolarDadx]

Curious on an off topic what is percentage of players who stay on football teams in NESCAC during their four years. In addition which school has the highest attrition rate of players ?  just curious to know peoples opinions and hunches

This is actually an interesting question if you are familiar with D3 football.  Many smaller D3 schools use sports/football as a way to attract students to come to the school in the first place, often having more than 100 freshman football players, who whittle down to ~20-30 by senior year.  One of my son's HS coaches was one of 130 freshman players at a non-NESCAC D3 football program.  By his senior year, I think he said 23 were left on the team (but most were still at the school).

The NESCAC schools don't 'need' sports to attract students that want to go there, so attrition would more likely be due to injury or decisions related to playing time or being able to keep up with the academic workload.

[D3FLETCH]

NESCAC EXPECTATIONS
Incoming Class- 25
Play 4 Years- 18-20
Graduate in 4 years 24

[polbear73]

While football or other sports do play a role at some D3 schools in attracting students in general, they play a bigger role in attracting male students to liberal arts colleges. Sports are a big help in attracting male/female numbers equality

[D3FLETCH]

While football or other sports do play a role at some D3 schools in attracting students in general, they play a bigger role in attracting male students to liberal arts colleges. Sports are a big help in attracting male/female numbers equality

Another reason to protest NESCAC football 

[Charlie]

NESCAC EXPECTATIONS
Incoming Class- 25
Play 4 Years- 18-20
Graduate in 4 years 24

This seems somewhat in line reason for question is that every roster has expanded up to around 100 players. the NESCAC roster limits I beleive were held fro the longest time at around 75 to 80. I am wondering what NESCAC is going to do about this rule going forward and how this will affect future recruiting if they want to get back to or near this number. Do teams simply make cuts ? only so many seniors graduate a year. Defintely will make recruiting interesting

[nescac1]

A big reason, I think, for roster limits was an attempt to create more parity.  Obviously, there is just a massive gap between the top and bottom teams in the league this year.  But then again, there is nearly every year, so it did not seem like roster limits made much of an impact in that regard ...

On another note, here is a list of recruits who have announced they've committed to Williams so far ... some of them seem to announce other schools who have offered them, as those offers come in, so I thought it would be interest to list other NESCAC offers for those who do so ...

So far, a very local-heavy group of recruits for the Ephs ... and as always, a few Duxbury guys ...

Calvin Pedatella, LB, Bellport (NY) (Hamilton)
Cam Maguire, DE, Lawrence Academy
Campbell Pang, LB, Duxbury (Colby)
Brendan Guy, TE, Springfield Central (Amherst, Trinity)
Jon Oris, RB/DB, Avon Old Farms (Amherst)
Justice McGrail, WR, Central Catholic (Colby)
Teddy Massingham, DB, Duxbury (baseball / football recruit)

[Charlie]

A big reason, I think, for roster limits was an attempt to create more parity.  Obviously, there is just a massive gap between the top and bottom teams in the league this year.  But then again, there is nearly every year, so it did not seem like roster limits made much of an impact in that regard ...

On another note, here is a list of recruits who have announced they've committed to Williams so far ... some of them seem to announce other schools who have offered them, as those offers come in, so I thought it would be interest to list other NESCAC offers for those who do so ...

So far, a very local-heavy group of recruits for the Ephs ... and as always, a few Duxbury guys ...

Calvin Pedatella, LB, Bellport (NY) (Hamilton)
Cam Maguire, DE, Lawrence Academy
Campbell Pang, LB, Duxbury (Colby)
Brendan Guy, TE, Springfield Central (Amherst, Trinity)
Jon Oris, RB/DB, Avon Old Farms (Amherst)
Justice McGrail, WR, Central Catholic (Colby)
Teddy Massingham, DB, Duxbury (baseball / football recruit)

I find it interesting the one school who never really seems to get a great deal of ink when it comes to recruiting in my opinion or at least flaunts there recruiting success is Trinity. They quietly seem to restock there cabinets every year. I also heard that they landed one of the coveted Under Armour prospect players .

[nescac1]

I don't think any Nescac school "flaunts" recruits but Trinity seems to publicize its more than some (including Williams, which doesn't announce recruits at all in any public way; to be clear, this info I cobbled together from the recruits themselves).  Amherst through social media seems to give the most hype to its incoming football recruits ....

[Charlie]

I don't think any Nescac school "flaunts" recruits but Trinity seems to publicize its more than some (including Williams, which doesn't announce recruits at all in any public way; to be clear, this info I cobbled together from the recruits themselves).  Amherst through social media seems to give the most hype to its incoming football recruits ....

Have to say Bowdoin went crazy with its offerings this year and seemed and felt like a marketing campaign. Agreed wrong choice of words Coaches can only like posts but not comment. It just seemed that Trinity does not get into the social media information game like the others or as much. I have seen a great deal of Williams posts as well. One thing I do see a great deal of is kids who post Williams and then have a great deal of Ivy followers as if they are using Williams as a leverage tool.

[SpringSt7]

I don't think you're going to be able to learn much from each school/program's approach based on how their targeted recruits are using social media.

I definitely don't think Ivy league coaches are letting 17 year olds leverage them on the Internet because they tweeted about a couple NESCACs.

[maineman]

A big reason, I think, for roster limits was an attempt to create more parity.  Obviously, there is just a massive gap between the top and bottom teams in the league this year.  But then again, there is nearly every year, so it did not seem like roster limits made much of an impact in that regard ...

On another note, here is a list of recruits who have announced they've committed to Williams so far ... some of them seem to announce other schools who have offered them, as those offers come in, so I thought it would be interest to list other NESCAC offers for those who do so ...

So far, a very local-heavy group of recruits for the Ephs ... and as always, a few Duxbury guys ...

Calvin Pedatella, LB, Bellport (NY) (Hamilton)
Cam Maguire, DE, Lawrence Academy
Campbell Pang, LB, Duxbury (Colby)
Brendan Guy, TE, Springfield Central (Amherst, Trinity)
Jon Oris, RB/DB, Avon Old Farms (Amherst)
Justice McGrail, WR, Central Catholic (Colby)
Teddy Massingham, DB, Duxbury (baseball / football recruit)

I wonder if the Duxbury pipeline will continue with the head coach having been dismissed?