FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[SpringSt7]

Going through Estevez's stats and game logs to see what we can expect for Saturday. Passing numbers have trended downwards the last 3 weeks but that's besides the point. Dice really still has his QB/key to the entire offense back receiving punts and kicks??? And returning them?

[Charlie]

Would rather not be on the same side as the guy who thought Williams was at a coaching disadvantage against Trinity.

Wesleyan is tougher mentally and tougher physically than Trinity, talent gap aside. If Williams punches Wesleyan in the mouth early they won't fold immediately like Trinity did. DiCenzo is too good of a coach and has done too good of a job instilling his personality in his group to let that happen. If you asked him if he would rather beat Williams or win the league I don't know that he isn't picking beat Williams.

Hey I called it liked I see it the Tufts game there were blunders but I gave him props after the Trinity game. It was a great game plan and his DL & OL should all get game balls. Not taking away from Williams play but would have loved to see game played in better weather conditions. I think would have been a different game. I still think Williams would have been victorious but a more competitive game. The same applies for Wesleyan & Amherst game. I think Wesleyan would have won that game if it was not a mud bowl.

[Nescacman]

Would rather not be on the same side as the guy who thought Williams was at a coaching disadvantage against Trinity.

Wesleyan is tougher mentally and tougher physically than Trinity, talent gap aside. If Williams punches Wesleyan in the mouth early they won't fold immediately like Trinity did. DiCenzo is too good of a coach and has done too good of a job instilling his personality in his group to let that happen. If you asked him if he would rather beat Williams or win the league I don't know that he isn't picking beat Williams.

100% correct which is why Dice has never lost to his alma matter as HCOF at Wes. This game means more to him than any of us realize.

[Nescacman]

Here's a friendly question to all of our friends on this thread that all (well almost all) of us can relate to....what's the best thing about the Purple Cows beat down of Hartford State 42-3??? 

So nice not getting the weekly uniform report.... 

[Charlie]

Would rather not be on the same side as the guy who thought Williams was at a coaching disadvantage against Trinity.

Wesleyan is tougher mentally and tougher physically than Trinity, talent gap aside. If Williams punches Wesleyan in the mouth early they won't fold immediately like Trinity did. DiCenzo is too good of a coach and has done too good of a job instilling his personality in his group to let that happen. If you asked him if he would rather beat Williams or win the league I don't know that he isn't picking beat Williams.

Interesting perspective you may have something there. I think this would have been more of an edge if the game were in CT. Wesleyan Home mud bowl favors them. I think the atmosphere is going to be too overwhelming for them at Williams. But what an upset if he can pull off

100% correct which is why Dice has never lost to his alma matter as HCOF at Wes. This game means more to him than any of us realize.

[The Mole]

lumber, I know Malik is gone and Argast is "sidelined". Since you have a birdseye view, how would you evaluate when Malik coached, and the transition to Argast and the rest of the staff.  Nescacthey/them makes a great point that although improvement in the games are obvious, but the results are the same.

[Trin9-0]

I wasn't able to watch Williams' dismantling of Trinity (mercifully) so I had been waiting to see the film breakdown that Devanney sends out each week before commenting. It was, if anything, worse than the score indicated and a truly shocking result by any account. Thanks to nescac1 for saving me the time of looking up the last time Trinity suffered such a lopsided defeat (45 years!?!). Hats off to Raymond and the Ephs who are clearly the class of the NESCAC this season.

On separate note; sadly a complaint was made by a Wesleyan alumnus about my posts so I'll be taking a break from the board. I've enjoyed posting here and hope to have added to the discussion on the league that we all love, but it's obviously not worth jeopardizing my job.

Enjoy the rest of the season and I hope to still check-in from time to time.

[nescac1]

I can't understand what would be cause for complaint Trin8-0, that is utterly ridiculous.  Sorry to hear you need to stop posting. 

[lumbercat]

lumber, I know Malik is gone and Argast is "sidelined". Since you have a birdseye view, how would you evaluate when Malik coached, and the transition to Argast and the rest of the staff.  Nescacthey/them makes a great point that although improvement in the games are obvious, but the results are the same.

Mole-

Not sure I understand all of your question as worded, some typos, but I'll respond.

Classless shot Mole with the "sidelined" label in this context.

Anybody that met Malik really liked the guy as I do.. He was different in a lot of ways but in a good way.  That threw a lot of the status quo folks way off kilter.. He is great motivator, the kids listen and most guys over achieved under his leadership. He is a players coach. Like some of the old school coaches players would run through a brick wall for him.

To his detriment I think he had difficulty getting a handle on the NESCAC and all the limitations that come along with it. Not sure he navigated the admissions process very well. Most think that Ivy experience qualifies a guy for dealing effectively with NESCAC recruiting guidelines and admission nuances....not so.  The variances throughout the NESCAC in terms of admissions obstacles and guidelines make the recruiting equation tougher in the NESCAC. Bates admissions as tough and inflexible as any NESCAC school. No affinity for Football or most sports.

So if you are forcing my evaluation of a coaching situation within a program program that was placed in a very difficult, unprecedented situation this year, I'd be inclined to tell you to take a hike but I'll elaborate further on Coach Argast. He's a total professional and a guy with an immense amount of football knowledge. He's got guys playing up and had fostered the development of an Offensive Coordinator who you will hear from again- Custavious Patterson. He's tutored Costa for three years on the passing game and Quarterback play. Say what you want but the Bates passing game is formidable and that's Patterson's baby.

Not all bad in Lewiston.

And for the record I don't know who the clown was that said Coach Hall was fired or left due to a mold problem in his Bates owned house. Totally false.

Any body else want to take a shot at the Bates Program go ahead, I get it. it's been a tough year. But I think the Bobcats will keep bringing it.

[Nescacman]

lumber, I know Malik is gone and Argast is "sidelined". Since you have a birdseye view, how would you evaluate when Malik coached, and the transition to Argast and the rest of the staff.  Nescacthey/them makes a great point that although improvement in the games are obvious, but the results are the same.

Mole-

Not sure I understand all of your question as worded, some typos, but I'll respond.

Classless shot Mole with the "sidelined" label in this context.

Anybody that met Malik really liked the guy as I do.. He was different in a lot of ways but in a good way.  That threw a lot of the status quo folks way off kilter.. He is great motivator, the kids listen and most guys over achieved under his leadership. He is a players coach. Like some of the old school coaches players would run through a brick wall for him.

To his detriment I think he had difficulty getting a handle on the NESCAC and all the limitations that come along with it. Not sure he navigated the admissions process very well. Most think that Ivy experience qualifies a guy for dealing effectively with NESCAC recruiting guidelines and admission nuances....not so.  The variances throughout the NESCAC in terms of admissions obstacles and guidelines make the recruiting equation tougher in the NESCAC. Bates admissions as tough and inflexible as any NESCAC school. No affinity for Football or most sports.

So if you are forcing my evaluation of a coaching situation within a program program that was placed in a very difficult, unprecedented situation this year, I'd be inclined to tell you to take a hike but I'll elaborate further on Coach Argast. He's a total professional and a guy with an immense amount of football knowledge. He's got guys playing up and had fostered the development of an Offensive Coordinator who you will hear from again- Custavious Patterson. He's tutored Costa for three years on the passing game and Quarterback play. Say what you want but the Bates passing game is formidable and that's Patterson's baby.

Not all bad in Lewiston.

And for the record I don't know who the clown was that said Coach Hall was fired or left due to a mold problem in his Bates owned house. Totally false.

Any body else want to take a shot at the Bates Program go ahead, I get it. it's been a tough year. But I think the Bobcats will keep bringing it.

Lumber, as we have said, we have the utmost respect for how UBates competed this year, despite being way undermanned...we'll credit some amazing play by Hooks (who we think should be in the mix for DPOTY), Bryant, (and others) and of course, Costa who deserves some sort of award for what he accomplished over the last 4 years (one of the most underrated careers in the NESCAC in recent memory along with Hamilton's Kenny Gray), including surviving/thriving a complete switch in offensive philosophy from the triple option to the air-raid/multi-set....unfortunately, if Costa doesn't play these last two weeks, the season is not going to end well for UBates...

Question, we have met OC Patterson, know he has a ton of energy, is knowledgeable, and the players seem to like him...any shot he'll get the HCOF spot? 

[Nescacman]

I wasn't able to watch Williams' dismantling of Trinity (mercifully) so I had been waiting to see the film breakdown that Devanney sends out each week before commenting. It was, if anything, worse than the score indicated and a truly shocking result by any account. Thanks to nescac1 for saving me the time of looking up the last time Trinity suffered such a lopsided defeat (45 years!?!). Hats off to Raymond and the Ephs who are clearly the class of the NESCAC this season.

On separate note; sadly a complaint was made by a Wesleyan alumnus about my posts so I'll be taking a break from the board. I've enjoyed posting here and hope to have added to the discussion on the league that we all love, but it's obviously not worth jeopardizing my job.

Enjoy the rest of the season and I hope to still check-in from time to time.

Hs5-4...believe it or not, we are very disappointed to hear this...despite the constant (most of the time) good natured ribbing, you could give it as well as you could take it which we appreciated and enjoyed......we also appreciated your wit and creativity...hopefully, you'll figure out a way to make it work going forward and be back to discuss how Hartford State's 6-0 start turned into a 6-3 finish...

[The Mole]

Not taking a shot at Argast being out, actually gave him a get well soon earlier. That is your hypersensitivity. You throw other coaches under the bus but cannot objectively evaluate the dysfunction in your own program? Whatever

lumber, I know Malik is gone and Argast is "sidelined". Since you have a birdseye view, how would you evaluate when Malik coached, and the transition to Argast and the rest of the staff.  Nescacthey/them makes a great point that although improvement in the games are obvious, but the results are the same.

Mole-

Not sure I understand all of your question as worded, some typos, but I'll respond.

Classless shot Mole with the "sidelined" label in this context.

Anybody that met Malik really liked the guy as I do.. He was different in a lot of ways but in a good way.  That threw a lot of the status quo folks way off kilter.. He is great motivator, the kids listen and most guys over achieved under his leadership. He is a players coach. Like some of the old school coaches players would run through a brick wall for him.

To his detriment I think he had difficulty getting a handle on the NESCAC and all the limitations that come along with it. Not sure he navigated the admissions process very well. Most think that Ivy experience qualifies a guy for dealing effectively with NESCAC recruiting guidelines and admission nuances....not so.  The variances throughout the NESCAC in terms of admissions obstacles and guidelines make the recruiting equation tougher in the NESCAC. Bates admissions as tough and inflexible as any NESCAC school. No affinity for Football or most sports.

So if you are forcing my evaluation of a coaching situation within a program program that was placed in a very difficult, unprecedented situation this year, I'd be inclined to tell you to take a hike but I'll elaborate further on Coach Argast. He's a total professional and a guy with an immense amount of football knowledge. He's got guys playing up and had fostered the development of an Offensive Coordinator who you will hear from again- Custavious Patterson. He's tutored Costa for three years on the passing game and Quarterback play. Say what you want but the Bates passing game is formidable and that's Patterson's baby.

Not all bad in Lewiston.

And for the record I don't know who the clown was that said Coach Hall was fired or left due to a mold problem in his Bates owned house. Totally false.

Any body else want to take a shot at the Bates Program go ahead, I get it. it's been a tough year. But I think the Bobcats will keep bringing it.

[JEFFFAN]

Trin8-0 ... I am really sorry to hear that.  There are so few folks on this site that to lose a regular contributor is a loss to all of us.   I certainly hope that over time you will consider rejoining as a contributor.   We are going to miss your posts!

[The Mole]

Lumber, here are some more facts for you to reinforce what a poor coaching job Dice has done. His record is 36-14. A miserable .720 winning percentage. Imagine if he was actually organized and could maintain control on game day.

Your Great Triumverate for that same period is 10-40. Right at .200, pretty solid. Since 1992 the Bobcats are 51-183. Amazing history of hall of famers. Nothing like averaging less than 2 wins a year.

[Nescacman]

Lumber, here are some more facts for you to reinforce what a poor coaching job Dice has done. His record is 36-14. A miserable .720 winning percentage. Imagine if he was actually organized and could maintain control on game day.

Your Great Triumverate for that same period is 10-40. Right at .200, pretty solid. Since 1992 the Bobcats are 51-183. Amazing history of hall of famers. Nothing like averaging less than 2 wins a year.

FYI, Dice is the all-time winningest HCOF in Wesleyan history (by winning percentage-min 40 games coached)...