FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[BigKat]

Charlie you are on fire this week. What's your beef with the Jumbos btw? pretty much all your info laid out is inaccurate save the D being below average last year. New DC looks credentialed.

Ivy League is 8 football teams not 10  to start so that's the first reason. Second reason is they used to recruit against many of their non conf schools. Think patriot league ( pre scholarships) which were the original ones. Playing G'town, HC, Bucknell etc made a lot of sense for Ivy Football back in the 80's and 90's Who would the Nescac's play? MIT? other than that, not sure there is a peer D3 academic wise school they recruit H2H with.

[Charlie]

Charlie you are on fire this week. What's your beef with the Jumbos btw? pretty much all your info laid out is inaccurate save the D being below average last year. New DC looks credentialed.

Ivy League is 8 football teams not 10  to start so that's the first reason. Second reason is they used to recruit against many of their non conf schools. Think patriot league ( pre scholarships) which were the original ones. Playing G'town, HC, Bucknell etc made a lot of sense for Ivy Football back in the 80's and 90's Who would the Nescac's play? MIT? other than that, not sure there is a peer D3 academic wise school they recruit H2H with.

First I have nothing against Tufts I did see the new DC and hopefully turn that unit around. I am the one who stated earlier that Tufts is the best geographically desirable school in NESCAC. Having said that they should be able to get recruits and have had some decent recruiting classes. You also agreed that the DC last year was bad and rightfully so just as bad on the field was his in state recruitment in my opinion. Although tough to say if that direction was not lead by HC in trying to recruit out of state players.

Do I think Tufts could be a legitimate contender yes I beleive so. However history has shown that Tufts has habit of underachieving. I think that they get some good recruits some All stars but it is always just not enough in some type of fashion.

Again not sure if allowed but I would have tried to get a younger Coach like Bates who has shown he can recruit and Coach. I love the staff he is assembling at Bates. If it is true that athletics is supporting the football program at Tufts and they are getting the recruits as you say then this should be a breakout year for the jumbos especially with strong play at QB position. We shall wait and see.

I understand you answer on the Ivy League situation now I always thought NESCAC mirrors the same amount of games so no matter what NESCAC would play same amount and your explanation now makes sense. Thanks

[NESCACFball24/7]

Charlie you are on fire this week. What's your beef with the Jumbos btw? pretty much all your info laid out is inaccurate save the D being below average last year. New DC looks credentialed.

Ivy League is 8 football teams not 10  to start so that's the first reason. Second reason is they used to recruit against many of their non conf schools. Think patriot league ( pre scholarships) which were the original ones. Playing G'town, HC, Bucknell etc made a lot of sense for Ivy Football back in the 80's and 90's Who would the Nescac's play? MIT? other than that, not sure there is a peer D3 academic wise school they recruit H2H with.

The only teams I could see making sense besides MIT and maybe union or Springfield would be maybe  Trinity-Texas, or the Claremont schools in southern cal. That would make some sense considering a lot of the NESCAC schools are trying to recruit out west now.

[Jonny Utah]

Charlie you are on fire this week. What's your beef with the Jumbos btw? pretty much all your info laid out is inaccurate save the D being below average last year. New DC looks credentialed.

Ivy League is 8 football teams not 10  to start so that's the first reason. Second reason is they used to recruit against many of their non conf schools. Think patriot league ( pre scholarships) which were the original ones. Playing G'town, HC, Bucknell etc made a lot of sense for Ivy Football back in the 80's and 90's Who would the Nescac's play? MIT? other than that, not sure there is a peer D3 academic wise school they recruit H2H with.

The only teams I could see making sense besides MIT and maybe union or Springfield would be maybe  Trinity-Texas, or the Claremont schools in southern cal. That would make some sense considering a lot of the NESCAC schools are trying to recruit out west now.

Is this really the reason?  I get playing like minded schools to keep the competition as even as possible, but I always figured you wouldn't want to play the schools you recruit against, unless it is a specific rivalry or something like that.  I'm thinking how BC wants to isolate Uconn as much as possible and wouldn't want them in the ACC ever.  Or how Texas A&M wanted to block Texas from joining the SEC. 

As for MIT, they don't seem to have a problem playing Curry or Dean, so I'm not sure why Tufts would care.

[Scoops]

Hi all. Big fan of the board, but new to posting. I was excited about the idea of out of conference games but I talked to a few of the coaches I know, and that doesn't really sound like it's happening. I hear it's mostly because the nescac starts so late. All of the other leagues in the region are starting up conference play while most of the teams in the league are just wrapping up training camp.

[Pat Coleman]

Would definitely have to start up a week earlier to make that happen, yes.

[Charlie]

Hi all. Big fan of the board, but new to posting. I was excited about the idea of out of conference games but I talked to a few of the coaches I know, and that doesn't really sound like it's happening. I hear it's mostly because the nescac starts so late. All of the other leagues in the region are starting up conference play while most of the teams in the league are just wrapping up training camp.

I heard this as well a few of the Coaches want to push NESCAC start up one week earlier and trying to get controlled scrimmage in place as a start to this pilot program. For example WNE having a controlled scrimmage against Wesleyan. The hopes is that if they can implement this perhaps it could translate into at minimum a type of preseason game. These two schools have relationship as the so Called JV/sub teams teams play against one another in the past.

[Jonny Utah]

Hi all. Big fan of the board, but new to posting. I was excited about the idea of out of conference games but I talked to a few of the coaches I know, and that doesn't really sound like it's happening. I hear it's mostly because the nescac starts so late. All of the other leagues in the region are starting up conference play while most of the teams in the league are just wrapping up training camp.

I heard this as well a few of the Coaches want to push NESCAC start up one week earlier and trying to get controlled scrimmage in place as a start to this pilot program. For example WNE having a controlled scrimmage against Wesleyan. The hopes is that if they can implement this perhaps it could translate into at minimum a type of preseason game. These two schools have relationship as the so Called JV/sub teams teams play against one another in the past.

Charlie wants to win a national championship SO bad.  Baby steps.....baby steps....

[maineman]

Charlie you are on fire this week. What's your beef with the Jumbos btw? pretty much all your info laid out is inaccurate save the D being below average last year. New DC looks credentialed.

Ivy League is 8 football teams not 10  to start so that's the first reason. Second reason is they used to recruit against many of their non conf schools. Think patriot league ( pre scholarships) which were the original ones. Playing G'town, HC, Bucknell etc made a lot of sense for Ivy Football back in the 80's and 90's Who would the Nescac's play? MIT? other than that, not sure there is a peer D3 academic wise school they recruit H2H with.

First of all, we just got a ninth game a few years ago, so the prospects of getting a tenth game soon or ever are slim to nil.   It would be an interesting question as to who they would play.  NESCAC was a non playing conference for about twenty years until it went conference only in about 1990.  Before that, they played a plethora of non league games.  While these schools might not match up peer-wise academically, it is fun to think of who they might play.

Amh-Springfield
Bates-Endicott
Bow-UNE
Colby-Husson
Ham-St Lawrence
Midd-Norwich-resumption of series
Trin-Coast Guard
Tufts-MIT
Wes-WPI
Will-RPI

This would still leave other teams as possible opponents like Plymouth State, Castleton, Mass Maritime, Maine Maritime, USMMA and all the other MASCAC, LEC and CCC teams if their scheduling permits.  There are probably far better matchups than I have suggested so go ahead and suggest some.  Many of these teams formerly played NESCAC teams before 1990.

[Charlie]

Charlie you are on fire this week. What's your beef with the Jumbos btw? pretty much all your info laid out is inaccurate save the D being below average last year. New DC looks credentialed.

Ivy League is 8 football teams not 10  to start so that's the first reason. Second reason is they used to recruit against many of their non conf schools. Think patriot league ( pre scholarships) which were the original ones. Playing G'town, HC, Bucknell etc made a lot of sense for Ivy Football back in the 80's and 90's Who would the Nescac's play? MIT? other than that, not sure there is a peer D3 academic wise school they recruit H2H with.

More Coaching changes sources have confirmed Coach Belnavis is no longer at Amherst and has joined Coach Coynes staff at Bates college.

In addition Coach Stanley from Wesleyan is not going to Bates choosing another direction left Wesleyan. Bates has hired Coach Jirgl formerly of Oberlin College for DC & LB job at Bates.

Wow Amherst has lost 4 young Coaches from last year 5 if you count Waltrous who was there year prior. Three have gone to Bates.

First of all, we just got a ninth game a few years ago, so the prospects of getting a tenth game soon or ever are slim to nil.   It would be an interesting question as to who they would play.  NESCAC was a non playing conference for about twenty years until it went conference only in about 1990.  Before that, they played a plethora of non league games.  While these schools might not match up peer-wise academically, it is fun to think of who they might play.

Amh-Springfield
Bates-Endicott
Bow-UNE
Colby-Husson
Ham-St Lawrence
Midd-Norwich-resumption of series
Trin-Coast Guard
Tufts-MIT
Wes-WPI
Will-RPI

This would still leave other teams as possible opponents like Plymouth State, Castleton, Mass Maritime, Maine Maritime, USMMA and all the other MASCAC, LEC and CCC teams if their scheduling permits.  There are probably far better matchups than I have suggested so go ahead and suggest some.  Many of these teams formerly played NESCAC teams before 1990.

[WilsonField]

I mean UChicago, Wash U, W&L, CMS, Hopkins are all high academic d3s that recruit v the NESCAC and compete in a league full of non academic peers

[Charlie]

Hi all. Big fan of the board, but new to posting. I was excited about the idea of out of conference games but I talked to a few of the coaches I know, and that doesn't really sound like it's happening. I hear it's mostly because the nescac starts so late. All of the other leagues in the region are starting up conference play while most of the teams in the league are just wrapping up training camp.

I heard this as well a few of the Coaches want to push NESCAC start up one week earlier and trying to get controlled scrimmage in place as a start to this pilot program. For example WNE having a controlled scrimmage against Wesleyan. The hopes is that if they can implement this perhaps it could translate into at minimum a type of preseason game. These two schools have relationship as the so Called JV/sub teams teams play against one another in the past.

More Coaching changes sources have confirmed Coach Belnavis is no longer at Amherst and has joined Coach Coynes staff at Bates college.

In addition Coach Stanley from Wesleyan is not going to Bates choosing another direction left Wesleyan. Bates has hired Coach Jirgl formerly of Oberlin College for DC & LB job at Bates.

Wow Amherst has lost 4 young Coaches from last year 5 if you count Waltrous who was there year prior. Three have gone to Bates. Banks to Loomis Chaffee School. Big changes at Amherst anyone heard if HC Mills considering his future or is this just young guns wanting a change.

[JEFFFAN]

If they were leaving for major upgrades, I would be worried as an Amherst fan.   Since they are not, my guess is that they were gently pushed to pursue other opportunities.   This has not been the greatest stretch in EJ's tenure so my guess is that we is actively seeking change in his staff.

[Charlie]

If they were leaving for major upgrades, I would be worried as an Amherst fan.   Since they are not, my guess is that they were gently pushed to pursue other opportunities.   This has not been the greatest stretch in EJ's tenure so my guess is that we is actively seeking change in his staff.

I agree but that is a huge overhaul. However HC Mils is a great coach and will figure it out. Rest assured if he does plan on moving on in a year or two I bet HC canidates lining up down the street.

[NESCACFball24/7]

Heard from a buddy close to the program that Tufts is continuing with the upgrades to their facility this year with a locker room expansion and renovation this summer. With a second phase hopefully the next summer that would hopefully include a new weightroom and training room next to the field as well as new stands and a renovation of the track. The Nescsc facility arms race is alive and well! Tufts already had the location but about times their facilities caught up.