FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[Charlie]

Worked out pretty well for Maimaron

Exactly and he played Division 4 High School. The kid I am speaking of played D1 however I will agree not a football pedigree school. Lets also keep in mind that this is D3 ball not D1. Despite Maimaron accomplishments I do not think he would have ever seen the field at the D1 level possibly D2. Again this is all speculation but statistics are impressive.

[SpringSt7]

Maimaron played D2 I believe. I know they've since changed the classifications but Duxbury was the second highest division.

[lumbercat]

There is no recognized, official Ma HS football record for sacks. It could be a team record or possibly a recent league record but sacks are not recorded and reported and tracked across the board in Ma.
Toyias is recognized as fine player who actively solicited and reported a lot of college interaction and interest, to his credit.
Believe was offered at many/most NESCAC schools.

[Jonny Utah]

Worked out pretty well for Maimaron

Exactly and he played Division 4 High School. The kid I am speaking of played D1 however I will agree not a football pedigree school. Lets also keep in mind that this is D3 ball not D1. Despite Maimaron accomplishments I do not think he would have ever seen the field at the D1 level possibly D2. Again this is all speculation but statistics are impressive.

Duxbury when Maimaron played was one of the best teams in MA and maybe the best team regardless of division.  In MA the divisions don't matter.  Hell even Catholic Memorial is D2 this year 

[Jonny Utah]

There is no recognized, official Ma HS football record for sacks. It could be a team record or possibly a recent league record but sacks are not recorded and reported and tracked across the board in Ma.
Toyias is recognized as fine player who actively solicited and reported a lot of college interaction and interest, to his credit.
Believe was offered at many/most NESCAC schools.

Ahh the kid from Newton South ok.  Yea Newton South had some Coordinator changes last year I believe and started fresh with a Wing-T system.  Toyias is a physical player with some good natural strength and size that should make him a good player at Trinity. 

And I just looked him up he had the Newton South sack record, not the MA high school record.  Newton South doesn't produce many good football players but did have Austin Burton (UCLA to Purdue) and Sasha Hoban who went to Yale.

[nescac1]

Toyias has a talented brother, a senior, who has been offered by several NESAC schools as well.  I imagine Trinity is the favorite to land him.

Wesleyan posted its roster and boy they do look loaded, other than two offensive linemen, one LB and one DL, they seem to have every significant player back from last season, plus Simco and Van Jess back healthy.  Quite a few grad students / fifth year seniors included in that group.  Seems like a do-or-die year for Wesleyan in its quest for a league title as they will lose just an INCREDIBLE amount  of talent after this season, Estevez, Scott, Simco, Banks, and the other grad students for sure, and - unless they take a fifth year, which some might - Helbig, Von Jess, Legoullon, Tomlinson, Williams as well.  That's a LOT of all-league type guys in the senior / grad student classes for Wes.   

Having grad programs to offer continues to be a big advantage for Tufts and Wesleyan.  There are probably some NESCAC players who would stick around for a fifth year at other NESCAC schools but don't want to take a semester off from school. 

[BeTheMan]

With all due respect Mass divisions do matter. Catholic Memorial clearly belongs in Div 1; however Coach Dibs knows that he cannot beat Springfield Central in Div 1 South finals after they moved up. Duxbury was definitely a great team back in the day, but wouldn't have come close in Div 1....just too many athletes per team with the larger schools.
And....there is not a statistic for sacks that is kept in Mass.

[SpringSt7]

Duxbury got the brakes beat off of them by Springfield Central a few years back in the state championship. They had some dudes.

[Charlie]

Toyias has a talented brother, a senior, who has been offered by several NESAC schools as well.  I imagine Trinity is the favorite to land him.

Wesleyan posted its roster and boy they do look loaded, other than two offensive linemen, one LB and one DL, they seem to have every significant player back from last season, plus Simco and Van Jess back healthy.  Quite a few grad students / fifth year seniors included in that group.  Seems like a do-or-die year for Wesleyan in its quest for a league title as they will lose just an INCREDIBLE amount  of talent after this season, Estevez, Scott, Simco, Banks, and the other grad students for sure, and - unless they take a fifth year, which some might - Helbig, Von Jess, Legoullon, Tomlinson, Williams as well.  That's a LOT of all-league type guys in the senior / grad student classes for Wes.   

Having grad programs to offer continues to be a big advantage for Tufts and Wesleyan.  There are probably some NESCAC players who would stick around for a fifth year at other NESCAC schools but don't want to take a semester off from school.

I find it the same every year. Taking nothing away from HC but they are always stacked. There team last year under performed on the offensive side of the ball. The defense was solid and I have to think that was because of Coach Coyne & Stanley. I am not a big fan of new DC Chicoine. Colby was historically under his tenure a weak defensive team and schemes. I just think this is going to be another year of could have and should have for Wesleyan.

[Jonny Utah]

With all due respect Mass divisions do matter. Catholic Memorial clearly belongs in Div 1; however Coach Dibs knows that he cannot beat Springfield Central in Div 1 South finals after they moved up. Duxbury was definitely a great team back in the day, but wouldn't have come close in Div 1....just too many athletes per team with the larger schools.
And....there is not a statistic for sacks that is kept in Mass.

Well Catholic Schools don't really count.  If you look at all of the regular D1 public schools, D2 and D3 are usually better.  Except for Everett (who also has a team with non Everett players on it consistently) D2 is almost always better.  Springfield Central, Franklin, Andover and Brockton are close every once in a while but D2 in general produces better public teams.

EDIT: I will say this.  (Again, taking Catholic Schools out of it),  The 5th best d2 public school is beating the 5th best d1 public school.

[BeTheMan]

But the Catholic Schools do count. If you look at St John's Prep; Central Catholic; BH High; Xaverian; Catholic Memorial (they should be in Div1) they are all in the hunt for the Div 1 finals. Everett you have to throw away during Coach Dibs tenure as the recruiting (as you referenced) from other towns was out of control....now with the new administration they are buckled down to just Everett kids....and I would argue that they are the best Div 1 public school team. I am hearing now that a lot of those kids are starting to head in the Malden Catholic direction.

[nescac1]

Charlie, I'm not sure that Wesleyan really underperformed that much on offense last year.  They lost their top WR for the entire year due to an injury.  They didn't have an elite tailback on the roster (McPhee is solid and should be an asset as a fifth-year player).  And Austin Scott was clearly struggling with some sort of injury much of the year, leaving Estevez to have to do WAY too much on his own on offense.  This year all of their important skill guys, plus Simco, are back, and presumably they will get more out of Scott so that Estevez can play in more a slash role to which he is ideally suited.  I have a feeling their offense will be a lot more explosive.  I think Wesleyan, Trinity, Williams and Tufts could be pretty closely grouped this year, but I'd rank them, heading into the season, in that order.  I think however that any of them could win the league title.  Anyone outside that four would, to be me, be a massive surprise. 

[Jonny Utah]

But the Catholic Schools do count. If you look at St John's Prep; Central Catholic; BH High; Xaverian; Catholic Memorial (they should be in Div1) they are all in the hunt for the Div 1 finals. Everett you have to throw away during Coach Dibs tenure as the recruiting (as you referenced) from other towns was out of control....now with the new administration they are buckled down to just Everett kids....and I would argue that they are the best Div 1 public school team. I am hearing now that a lot of those kids are starting to head in the Malden Catholic direction.

Ok I was just thinking of public schools.  I do think CM has pushed many public school coaches to an area where the Catholic Conference days may be numbered in the MIAA.  Of course the MIAA is littered with Catholic Conference retirees as well so who knows.  (For the record CM is doing some good things with local Boston kids who may not have had the chance if they had gone to other schools.  CM is giving these kids a chance with in the end is a good thing).

[BeTheMan]

Great point on CM Mr. Utah! Solid school for sure.

[Charlie]

Charlie, I'm not sure that Wesleyan really underperformed that much on offense last year.  They lost their top WR for the entire year due to an injury.  They didn't have an elite tailback on the roster (McPhee is solid and should be an asset as a fifth-year player).  And Austin Scott was clearly struggling with some sort of injury much of the year, leaving Estevez to have to do WAY too much on his own on offense.  This year all of their important skill guys, plus Simco, are back, and presumably they will get more out of Scott so that Estevez can play in more a slash role to which he is ideally suited.  I have a feeling their offense will be a lot more explosive.  I think Wesleyan, Trinity, Williams and Tufts could be pretty closely grouped this year, but I'd rank them, heading into the season, in that order.  I think however that any of them could win the league title.  Anyone outside that four would, to be me, be a massive surprise.

Wesleyan was in either 3/4 place in all offensive categories. Not a fan of their QB system and you are correct have a great deal of players returning. This year will be opposite of last year. They may score more but loosing all the defensive staff will translate into close games and being beaten by the top tier teams as well. Wesleyan never seems to be able to play a complete game as a team. Sadly this year is the same for them.

I do not think Tufts will make sum and I will explain why with two points. They go play Trinity and their defensive plan is to play WR Girard , Reid and TE in man to man coverage. I believe the score was 28-0 start of 3rd quarter a blow out game not close.

Coordinators bring their game plan sit down and discuss how they are going to attack teams. If the coaching staff discussed this plan and this is what they came up with illustrates the inept coaching at Tufts. A Complete coaching blunder. They should have beaten Williams at home last year but they spend more time recruiting out of region for diversity at the University. I have also heard there response time on recruiting and how there arrogance deters good athletes. I just beleive that this staff will not be able to make the hurdle to the top tier.