FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[Jonny Utah]

Hello,

The purpose of this thread is for the Alumni of both Bowdoin and Amherst to explore playing a future FB game at Fenway!

If Cortland and Ithaca can play a game at Yankee Stadium, surely we can commit to pack Fenway, making the game possible.

https://www.cortlandreddragons.com/news/2021/9/21/football-2022-cortaca-jug-to-be-played-at-yankee-stadium.aspx

I think the secret to make this happen will be to set up a charity to benefit from the event and presell tickets to measure commitment.  If there is an overage, the charity can distribute proceeds equally to the charities designated by both schools.  Also, should Alumni want to see the game happen but physical attendance on the date not be possible, we can set up a way for the tickets to be gifted to local military members and lower socio-economic honor students and other worthy recipients to help ensure that the needed tickets are sold.  If you like the idea, lets collectively work together to bring this about.

I'm sure we can sell the 35 K tickets needed and hope it can serve as an Alumni Weekend for both schools in the cleanest, nicest big city in the US.

Seeing the Red Sox President is a Trinity grad (and the person who sets up these football games), you might see a good Trinity/Tufts final game (or Trinity/Wesleyan) before a random Bowdoin/Amherst game. Amherst/Williams would be a good one too.

[lumbercat]

Doesn't it make more sense to put the best of NESCAC on display football in the Fenway venue.
Tufts is a natural given their location and connections in the City of Boston.

Tufts vs Trinity, Wesleyan or Middlebury.
Why put a couple of 2-7 teams on display?
Berluti and that Tufts passing game would be a great take for the casual fan.

They are going to continue the Fenway Football venue for the Mass High Schools so maybe the NESCAC would get another game with participation to be decided among the better teams in the conference at that time.

As proposed it sounds like a unilateral influence play. It should be based on merit and can't see Tufts not being involved in an initial NESCAC game at Fenway Park.

[Nescacman]

Doesn't it make more sense to put the best of NESCAC on display football in the Fenway venue.
Tufts is a natural given their location and connections in the City of Boston.

Tufts vs Trinity, Wesleyan or Middlebury.
Why put a couple of 2-7 teams on display?
Berluti and that Tufts passing game would be a great take for the casual fan.

They are going to continue the Fenway Football venue for the Mass High Schools so maybe the NESCAC would get another game with participation to be decided among the better teams in the conference at that time.

As proposed it sounds like a unilateral influence play. It should be based on merit and can't see Tufts not being involved in an initial NESCAC game at Fenway Park.

Lumber, of course we'll pile on here. We could not agree more.

The Tufts/Wes game next year scheduled for Medford would seem to be a natural fit to us. The two teams will both be very good (again) in 2023, always play exciting, down to the wire games, attract large crowds at their games, and are already scheduled to play a night game at Tufts.

Who wants to see a perennially/historically bad Bowdoin team play a currently bad Lord Mammoth team? Apparently not even the Amwurst alumni base enjoy watching this team judging by the size of the home crowd at their homecoming game this year vs. Wesleyan.

[lumbercat]

NM-

That post was nothing than more an Amherst guy with a friend at Bowdoin thinking they would stage a game at Fenway Park.
Since they started the football games at Fenway in the last several years the motivation has always been around local teams with a local interest. BC, Harvard and a number of the local HS teams. Fenway Football has now evolved into the start of a lower level bowl game at Fenway this year which has followed the lead of the Pinstripe bowl at Yankee Stadium. It's a great thing for the city of Boston and the fans.

I've been involved in the City of Boston enough over many years to know that a guy from Amherst or beyond isn't going to team with Bowdoin guy to stage a Football game on the Fenway. An Amherst-Bowdoin D3 game at Fenway with Tufts right up the street  ......Laughable ! .....unless Daddy Mammoth has some big time pull. Daddy Amherst sees Cortland and Ithaca playing in Yankee Stadium so he wants to stage a game at Fenway for junior between Amherst and Bowdoin.

Tufts has been all over this for quite a while.

NM- Sadly for the Cards it's highly unlikely the Red and Black would be in the mix.

The Tufts-Middlebury game on the final day of the NESCAC season is the target...... Fenway would not be available as a Football venue on the scheduled date of the Tufts-Cards game- The final game date of the NESCAC season could possibly work at Fenway.....

However,  I'm told Trinity is trying to leverage something with ex Bantam Sammy Kennedy but don't see how the Coopsters can make that work without concessions form the NESCAC to rearrange the schedule or lobby for an extra game which we know seems very unlikely.

[Charlie]

Hello,

The purpose of this thread is for the Alumni of both Bowdoin and Amherst to explore playing a future FB game at Fenway!

If Cortland and Ithaca can play a game at Yankee Stadium, surely we can commit to pack Fenway, making the game possible.

https://www.cortlandreddragons.com/news/2021/9/21/football-2022-cortaca-jug-to-be-played-at-yankee-stadium.aspx

I think the secret to make this happen will be to set up a charity to benefit from the event and presell tickets to measure commitment.  If there is an overage, the charity can distribute proceeds equally to the charities designated by both schools.  Also, should Alumni want to see the game happen but physical attendance on the date not be possible, we can set up a way for the tickets to be gifted to local military members and lower socio-economic honor students and other worthy recipients to help ensure that the needed tickets are sold.  If you like the idea, lets collectively work together to bring this about.

I'm sure we can sell the 35 K tickets needed and hope it can serve as an Alumni Weekend for both schools in the cleanest, nicest big city in the US.

Seeing the Red Sox President is a Trinity grad (and the person who sets up these football games), you might see a good Trinity/Tufts final game (or Trinity/Wesleyan) before a random Bowdoin/Amherst game. Amherst/Williams would be a good one too.

I think Trnity is logocal alternative given Redo Sox connection

[Charlie]

Hello,

The purpose of this thread is for the Alumni of both Bowdoin and Amherst to explore playing a future FB game at Fenway!

If Cortland and Ithaca can play a game at Yankee Stadium, surely we can commit to pack Fenway, making the game possible.

Only prblem with this as I see it is that NESCAC does everything evenly. I find it hard to believe they would not want every school to have an exyra game and they are not willing to have anymore games. In addition I think these football games take place well after the NESCAC season ends.

https://www.cortlandreddragons.com/news/2021/9/21/football-2022-cortaca-jug-to-be-played-at-yankee-stadium.aspx

I think the secret to make this happen will be to set up a charity to benefit from the event and presell tickets to measure commitment.  If there is an overage, the charity can distribute proceeds equally to the charities designated by both schools.  Also, should Alumni want to see the game happen but physical attendance on the date not be possible, we can set up a way for the tickets to be gifted to local military members and lower socio-economic honor students and other worthy recipients to help ensure that the needed tickets are sold.  If you like the idea, lets collectively work together to bring this about.

I'm sure we can sell the 35 K tickets needed and hope it can serve as an Alumni Weekend for both schools in the cleanest, nicest big city in the US.

Seeing the Red Sox President is a Trinity grad (and the person who sets up these football games), you might see a good Trinity/Tufts final game (or Trinity/Wesleyan) before a random Bowdoin/Amherst game. Amherst/Williams would be a good one too.

I think Trnity is logocal alternative given Redo Sox connection

[BigKat]

Not sure how we arrived at this topic but having watched nescac ball for over ten years, I think it's a hope and a prayer they'd put even 5k in Fenway for any match up of teams. Would be fun for the players and alums for sure, but the place would look barren on tv for certain. H/Y was around 25-30k this year and that had title implications for both squads.

[muleshoe]

Tufts Colby would also make sense at Fenway given the Sox GM is a Colby alum. The game is always played the first weekend of November and draws a decent crowd at Ellis Oval regardless of the teams' records given the large alumni base in Boston.

No idea how much this would cost, but would certainly draw a strong crowd from both sides.

[NESCACFball24/7]

Not sure how we arrived at this topic but having watched nescac ball for over ten years, I think it's a hope and a prayer they'd put even 5k in Fenway for any match up of teams. Would be fun for the players and alums for sure, but the place would look barren on tv for certain. H/Y was around 25-30k this year and that had title implications for both squads.

Tufts-bowdoin got almost 6k and Wesleyan-tufts had similar numbers for normal games and one would think that a game at Fenway would draw a decent number of fans/alumni/students who wouldn't otherwise be interested simply because the game is at Fenway.

Side note: Am I mistaken or did Harvard-Yale have to share a sideline when they played at Fenway? Why would this be appealing to anybody? Just sounds like an extra pain for the coaches and players.

[lumbercat]

I believe most/all games at Fenway have had both benches on the same side. If they situated a bench on the first base side of the field it would block the view of the first several rows of seats on the home dugout side.
In other words, it would be like watching a game from the visiting side at Colby.

[Nescacman]

I believe most/all games at Fenway have had both benches on the same side. If they situated a bench on the first base side of the field it would block the view of the first several rows of seats on the home dugout side.
In other words, it would be like watching a game from the visiting side at Colby.

Now that's funny Lumber! +k to you.

You lost us at rescheduling, moving games, and adding extra games. Not/never going to happen. End of story.

[Charlie]

I believe most/all games at Fenway have had both benches on the same side. If they situated a bench on the first base side of the field it would block the view of the first several rows of seats on the home dugout side.
In other words, it would be like watching a game from the visiting side at Colby.

Now that's funny Lumber! +k to you.

You lost us at rescheduling, moving games, and adding extra games. Not/never going to happen. End of story.

I have been to Thanksgiving football game there it is cool to watch. However never going to happen field is prepared and games are done way after NESCAC season is over.

Question if two teams wanted to play after official season is over does the NESCAC have a say if they can play a game or non-conference game after season is over. This game would have no bearing on NESCAC league ?

I ask because I know in the past Tufts and Bowdoin have had an exhibition/ Pre season game. I do not know if schools need NESCAC approval or can schedule one.

[lumbercat]

Tufts/Bowdoin have never had a preseason 'game'- they used to scrimmage when NESCAC schools scheduled pre season scrimmages  back in the day.
Friends Jay Civetti and JB Wells continued that tradition with a controlled scrimmage/joint practice prior to the 9 game schedule.

Tufts and Bowdoin played their scheduled NESCAC game in Ireland I think in the late 1980's or early 1990's.

[Charlie]

Tufts/Bowdoin have never had a preseason 'game'- they used to scrimmage when NESCAC schools scheduled pre season scrimmages  back in the day.
Friends Jay Civetti and JB Wells continued that tradition with a controlled scrimmage/joint practice prior to the 9 game schedule.

Tufts and Bowdoin played their scheduled NESCAC game in Ireland I think in the late 1980's or early 1990's.

Okay I knew it was something out of ordinary but did this have to be cleared by NESCAC. If two teams wanted to get together and have a game against each other or non conference game after season has concluded are they allowed ?

[SpringSt7]

If I am not mistaken, scheduling and organizing competitions is the entire point of athletic conferences.