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[Charlie]

Coach Coynes recruiting class at Bates will be 41 incoming in the class of '27.
94 man preseason roster.
New Field Turf surface and facility enhancements being installed this summer.
Complete uniform re-design with 3 different jerseys and 3 pants options.
There is a serious rebuild underway with an immense amount of momentum in Lewiston but the team will be very young. It will take time so the Bobcat faithful will need to be patient as Coyne rebuilds the program.

Coyne is very impressive in the way he is managing the program.
Should he ever decide to enter the business world he would be a success in any role where intelligence, mental toughness and leadership qualities are important. This kid has it. Lucky to have him at Bates.

41!!?   Wow....that's a big number...

Will be an interesting looking sideline in Lewiston.   Still only 75 allowed to dress correct??

Why is that  , I mean if a player is practicing and part of the team would it hurt to let him dress. It is not like there are true Red Shirt players what would it actually hurt.

[Charlie]

Heard the QB coach at Trinity is leaving for a job outside of football.  Good guy and did a nice job for them.  He will be missed.

This would be a significant loss to Trinity !!

[Ironhorse22]

I'm new to the conference, so take this information with a grain of salt!  According to everything I've seen on social media, these are the numbers- thus far- for the class of 2027 in the NESCAC I'm sure not all of the schools have finished their announcements, and I haven't seen any from Williams yet):

Bates adding 39 recruits.
Trinity adding 32.
Wesleyan adding 28.
Middlebury adding 26.
Amherst adding 24.
Hamilton adding 23.
Colby adding 22.
Tufts adding 15.
Bowdoin adding 13.
Williams hasn't announced any that I've seen yet.

Obviously these lists are fluid and will go up/down. They do give a pretty good indication of what roster sizes could look like next season.  By just subtracting listed Seniors from last season's rosters, and adding the incoming first year's,  the following numbers give us a starting point for roster size (this doesn't take into account any transfers or other subtractions, so it's just a rough estimate).

Trinity- 105
Wesleyan- 103
Middlebury- 100
Amherst- 96
Bates- 94
Colby- 90
Tufts- 89
Hamilton- 82
Bowdoin- 73
Williams- ?

[NESCACFball24/7]

I know Tufts will be close to 110 when it's all said and done between transfers, 5th years, and freshmen. They are bringing in close to 30 freshmen.

Trinity will be closer to 110-115 as well with a few late commits.

[Johnny Eph]

Coach Coynes recruiting class at Bates will be 41 incoming in the class of '27.
94 man preseason roster.
New Field Turf surface and facility enhancements being installed this summer.
Complete uniform re-design with 3 different jerseys and 3 pants options.
There is a serious rebuild underway with an immense amount of momentum in Lewiston but the team will be very young. It will take time so the Bobcat faithful will need to be patient as Coyne rebuilds the program.

Coyne is very impressive in the way he is managing the program.
Should he ever decide to enter the business world he would be a success in any role where intelligence, mental toughness and leadership qualities are important. This kid has it. Lucky to have him at Bates.

I would be careful with bringing in SO many players. Just means more disgruntled players not playing, dressing or even practicing. Which could lead to more bad reviews at the end of the year from these players. Until the HC has hit his 5 year and starts getting 3 year contracts he can be susceptible to bad reviews especially if it is compounded by other issues or a 0-9 season etc. Just sayin....better to be cautious ur first few years because things can snowball faster than u realize

[quicksilver]

I'm new to the conference, so take this information with a grain of salt!  According to everything I've seen on social media, these are the numbers- thus far- for the class of 2027 in the NESCAC I'm sure not all of the schools have finished their announcements, and I haven't seen any from Williams yet):

Bates adding 39 recruits.
Trinity adding 32.
Wesleyan adding 28.
Middlebury adding 26.
Amherst adding 24.
Hamilton adding 23.
Colby adding 22.
Tufts adding 15.
Bowdoin adding 13.
Williams hasn't announced any that I've seen yet.

. . . .

Bowdoin has at least 21 incoming players . 

[NESCACFball24/7]

You aren't wrong but with only 50 something kids on the sideline last year I think they can use all the bodies they can get. I don't know how you practice at the college level with that few guys much less have any actual depth for games.

Coach Coynes recruiting class at Bates will be 41 incoming in the class of '27.
94 man preseason roster.
New Field Turf surface and facility enhancements being installed this summer.
Complete uniform re-design with 3 different jerseys and 3 pants options.
There is a serious rebuild underway with an immense amount of momentum in Lewiston but the team will be very young. It will take time so the Bobcat faithful will need to be patient as Coyne rebuilds the program.

Coyne is very impressive in the way he is managing the program.
Should he ever decide to enter the business world he would be a success in any role where intelligence, mental toughness and leadership qualities are important. This kid has it. Lucky to have him at Bates.

I would be careful with bringing in SO many players. Just means more disgruntled players not playing, dressing or even practicing. Which could lead to more bad reviews at the end of the year from these players. Until the HC has hit his 5 year and starts getting 3 year contracts he can be susceptible to bad reviews especially if it is compounded by other issues or a 0-9 season etc. Just sayin....better to be cautious ur first few years because things can snowball faster than u realize

[lumbercat]

Official Bates incoming recruit number is 41.
This is not going to be the norm going forward. Admissions working with Coach Coyne to build the roster and make up for low recruit numbers in the program before Coyne arrived.

[Johnny Eph]

Well ok that makes sense and I wish u had stated that in the original post as I would not have bothered to replied. He sounds like a good young HC something Williams could desperately use if this Raymond project continues its 3-6 finishes but hey at least I beat Amherst type seasons.

Serious question:

How does a 5'7 former QB educate a 6'4 QB. I mean there is a 7inch difference in height. Is it not two different games and two different styles? Or is a QB always a QB and it makes no difference? Seriously

[Ephmen]

Well ok that makes sense and I wish u had stated that in the original post as I would not have bothered to replied. He sounds like a good young HC something Williams could desperately use if this Raymond project continues its 3-6 finishes but hey at least I beat Amherst type seasons.

Serious question:

How does a 5'7 former QB educate a 6'4 QB. I mean there is a 7inch difference in height. Is it not two different games and two different styles? Or is a QB always a QB and it makes no difference? Seriously

You sound pretty bitter, for no clear reason.  Are you a former wannabe player who didn't get any time under Raymond?  One 3-6 finish, coming off a 9-0 season.

As for coaching, you don't even have to have played in order to coach, let alone played the same position, had a certain style or be a certain height.

[The Mole]

Coaching QB is about preparing for pre-snap reads, how to watch/study film, how to read coverages/defenses, taking proper steps and footwork, release points, transferring leaderships skills on how to run a huddle/offense, mechanics of a two minute drill. Even more to add, but that is a start. Height has ZERO to do with it. And for that matter, a good coach does not have to have been a successful player regardless of position. Good communication skills, showing true care for players and most importantly, being a great salesman, because recruiting trumps Xs and Os, every time.

Well ok that makes sense and I wish u had stated that in the original post as I would not have bothered to replied. He sounds like a good young HC something Williams could desperately use if this Raymond project continues its 3-6 finishes but hey at least I beat Amherst type seasons.

Serious question:

How does a 5'7 former QB educate a 6'4 QB. I mean there is a 7inch difference in height. Is it not two different games and two different styles? Or is a QB always a QB and it makes no difference? Seriously

[Johnny Eph]

But just to be clear the former QB is 5'7. Thanks Mole for a legit answer, as for Ephman I am not bitter I just think Raymond is overrated. To go 3-6 at Williams is almost more difficult than to go 9-0....

[Scoops]

Not to pile on Raymond, because I think he's a fine coach, but it's pretty disingenuous to throw out that 9-0 season as some great feat of coaching. His team was loaded with 5th year talent who all started as freshmen, and one of the best QBs I've seen in the league. Pretty sure most coaches in the NESCAC could've gone undefeated with that crew. I think the drop-off was inevitable, but the questions around his coaching acumen will be answered this year. If he can get that team above .500 I think that will say a lot about his ability and future as the Ephs HC.

But just to be clear the former QB is 5'7. Thanks Mole for a legit answer, as for Ephman I am not bitter I just think Raymond is overrated. To go 3-6 at Williams is almost more difficult than to go 9-0....

[SpringSt7]

Not to pile on Raymond, because I think he's a fine coach, but it's pretty disingenuous to throw out that 9-0 season as some great feat of coaching. His team was loaded with 5th year talent who all started as freshmen, and one of the best QBs I've seen in the league. Pretty sure most coaches in the NESCAC could've gone undefeated with that crew. I think the drop-off was inevitable, but the questions around his coaching acumen will be answered this year. If he can get that team above .500 I think that will say a lot about his ability and future as the Ephs HC.

But just to be clear the former QB is 5'7. Thanks Mole for a legit answer, as for Ephman I am not bitter I just think Raymond is overrated. To go 3-6 at Williams is almost more difficult than to go 9-0....

Somewhat co-sign on this (they had the #1 offense and the #1 defense in 2019 when that whole crew was two years younger), but you can almost write off the 3-6 season due to QB play in the same vein. I think the Raymond tenure so far has been somewhere in the B+/A- range depending on how you feel about what he inherited from the Kelton years. The cupboard was SO bare when he got there. And he had all those guys start as freshmen and they went 6-3. There has to be credit given somewhere. And I loved Maimaron, but it's not like he was producing at a once-in-a-generation level. The defenses were better than the offenses.

[Ephmen]

Not to pile on Raymond, because I think he's a fine coach, but it's pretty disingenuous to throw out that 9-0 season as some great feat of coaching. His team was loaded with 5th year talent who all started as freshmen, and one of the best QBs I've seen in the league. Pretty sure most coaches in the NESCAC could've gone undefeated with that crew. I think the drop-off was inevitable, but the questions around his coaching acumen will be answered this year. If he can get that team above .500 I think that will say a lot about his ability and future as the Ephs HC.

But just to be clear the former QB is 5'7. Thanks Mole for a legit answer, as for Ephman I am not bitter I just think Raymond is overrated. To go 3-6 at Williams is almost more difficult than to go 9-0....

I didn't refer to it as a great feat of coaching.  I used it as context for the 3-6 season.

That loaded team was the first full season with players who were all his.