FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[jumbolina]

Hamilton Blows. 

[Nescacman]

Hamilton Blows.

Jumbolina....we think "stinks" or maybe "sucks" would be more appropriate for the PG ears on this Board...although we directionally agree with you. 

[GroundandPound]

More "Deep Thoughts" from Jumbolina.

[Nescacman]

Fantastic quip Mole. It's more a pure joy of watching the Cardinals implode year after year, and watching their fans make excuse after excuse to mask their shame. Keep enjoying those little 3 titles guys. The rest of the league REALLY respects your success.

Scoops, is it a Napoleon complex? Small hands and feet? Mommy didn't love you ?

No excuses at all Scoops...and just as a reminder, Wes has won 8 of the last 9 over your beloved Ephs so we have that too.  #rollcards

[RedAndBlack]

Pre-Covid, most of the schedule rotated every 2 years (home and home). For example, in 2018 and 2017, the Jumbo's opened up against the Alexander Hamilton's and before that, they opened up against Wes. Not sure why that suddenly stopped...

This was because the NESCAC played just eight games and scrimmaged against the ninth team. So, Tufts would scrimmage Wesleyan and play Hamilton, or scrimmage Hamilton and play Wesleyan.

2016: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2016/index
2015: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2015/index
2014: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2014/index
2013: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2013/index
2012: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2012/index
2011: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2011/index
2010: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2010/index
2009: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2009/index

Etc. Yes, in later years of this arrangement, some of the scrimmage pairings got shuffled for travel, but the setup as arranged was you alternated the team you played in the opener, and scrimmaged the team you didn't play.

Pat, I played in 2009 & 2010 for Wes... youre off. Wesleyan would scrimmage the team up north every year. Our schedule game 1 would flip alternate Tufts & Midd (home and away at each). Wesleyan isnt paying to add an extra overnight for a scrimmage up at middlebury the early weeks of the school year.

[Pat Coleman]

Right -- like I said, in later years, this arrangement was modified.

It's not like there's a public record of scrimmages -- only going by what people said at the time.

[jumbolina]

More "Deep Thoughts" from Jumbolina.

So deep...

[Pat Coleman]

More "Deep Thoughts" from Jumbolina.

So deep...

Do you have anything to contribute? If you want to trash-talk, perhaps X might be a better home for your super hot takes.

[Nescacman]

Pre-Covid, most of the schedule rotated every 2 years (home and home). For example, in 2018 and 2017, the Jumbo's opened up against the Alexander Hamilton's and before that, they opened up against Wes. Not sure why that suddenly stopped...

This was because the NESCAC played just eight games and scrimmaged against the ninth team. So, Tufts would scrimmage Wesleyan and play Hamilton, or scrimmage Hamilton and play Wesleyan.

2016: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2016/index
2015: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2015/index
2014: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2014/index
2013: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2013/index
2012: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2012/index
2011: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2011/index
2010: Tufts vs. Hamilton https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2010/index
2009: Tufts vs. Wesleyan https://www.d3football.com/teams/Tufts/2009/index

Etc. Yes, in later years of this arrangement, some of the scrimmage pairings got shuffled for travel, but the setup as arranged was you alternated the team you played in the opener, and scrimmaged the team you didn't play.

Pat, I played in 2009 & 2010 for Wes... youre off. Wesleyan would scrimmage the team up north every year. Our schedule game 1 would flip alternate Tufts & Midd (home and away at each). Wesleyan isnt paying to add an extra overnight for a scrimmage up at middlebury the early weeks of the school year.

Welcome Redandblack...always great to have fellow Cardinals on the Board....#rollcards

[Gray Fox]

More "Deep Thoughts" from Jumbolina.

So deep...

Do you have anything to contribute? If you want to trash-talk, perhaps X might be a better home for your super hot takes.

Thanks Pat, for not saying "X, formerly known as Twitter".

[lumbercat]

Hearing rumblings that there may be some changes coming at Colby. Not sure how imminent this may be but there has evidently been some discussion of a HCOF change. It may be more of a succession plan with Coach Cosgrove's input and blessing but the venerable HCOF has expressed some disappointment and frustration with results this year. Some of those familiar with the program feel that Cos may have the finish line in sight.

It's been a rough season for the Mules program.

---@Williams-L   tough loss to a young team they should have dominated.
---Trinity-L   Colby hung tough in the first half but got destroyed in 2nd half. HC totally befuddled in post game news accounts.
---@Bates-W   Lucky to win. Coach Cos "Bates outplayed us"
---Wesleyan-W    great win, the second annual pre Christmas gift win to a Maine team by the Cardinals.
---Amherst-W    Nice comeback but very lucky win. PI penalty combined with 15 yard unsportsmanlike call moves ball from                         Amherst 36 to the Amherst 6 with 3 seconds left. 25 yd FG wins it for the Mules.
---Hamilton-L    Homecoming loss to 0-5 road team.

If the Mules can pull an upset against either Tufts or Middlebury and/or win the CBB with against Bowdoin the move to change on Mayflower Hill might slow down but something seems to be in the works.

I don't rule out this Mules team surprising Tufts or Middlebury- it seems unlikely but at some point this team could finally score some points and fulfill a bit of their potential.

[Trin9-0]

Tufts over Hamilton 5
Wesleyan over Amherst 4
Middlebury over Colby 3
Williams over Bates 2
Bowdoin over Trinity 1
(5 most confident 1 least confident)

G&P, I say this fully realizing that you accurately predicted the Middlebury upset over Trinity in The Coop; but it's stunning to see anyone predict a straight-up win by Bowdoin over Trinity. For context, the Bantams have won 22 straight over the Polar Bears and are 35-2-1 since the schools began playing annually in 1984. The average score in those contests is 35.7 to 11.4 in Trinity's favor.

The fact that it's not completely unfathomable speaks to the job Hammer has done in a place that has historically been very difficult to win. This season Bowdoin has put up a good fight against other good NESCAC squads and they've beaten the teams they should. The Polar Bears have a legit chance at a winning season for the first time since 2005. However, the combined record of the teams they've beaten is just 3-15. It would certainly be one of the bigger upsets in recent NESCAC history if Trinity slips up on Saturday knowing they have no margin of error if they want a piece of the league title.

[SpringSt7]

If Colby goes 4-5 and makes a head coaching change, they should get a new AD too. If Cosgrove is unhappy with support and it's a "mutual" parting of ways, then that is one thing. But a 4-5 season that should've been 5-4 is an accomplishment, not a failure.

[lumbercat]

Too quick on the reaction there Spring st- Nobody says Cosgrove is disappointed with the support at Colby. The athletic support at Colby for Football, Basketball, (and most of all) Hockey along with Jesse's Baseball program is unprecedented in Waterville.

Coach Cos will probably move to Assistant AD- Advisor role.....those who know the guy say he won't retire- but Greene will never fire him.

[SpringSt7]

So for lack of a better term - is Cosgrove essentially just giving up? Again, lack of a better term.