FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[NESCACFball24/7]

Such a shame the NESCAC was unable to post the all-conference teams. Does anyone know when they should be posted?

Seems ridiculous that they haven't posted them yet especially since it's been over a week since the coaches voted.

[GroundandPound]

The Total Number of ALL-NESCAC players from the top four teams over the last 21 seasons:

2000
1.   Tie: Amherst 11 Colby 6  Middlebury 8
2.   Tie Wesleyan 5  Williams 4
2001
1.   Williams 14
2.   Amherst 12
3.   Tufts 7
4.   Tie Colby  5  Middlebury  6
2002
1.   Tie: Trinity 10 Williams 7
2.   Amherst 9
3.   Wesleyan 5
2003
1.   Trinity 13
2.   Williams 6
3.   Tie: Colby 4 Tufts 9
2004
1.   Trinity 13
2.   Tie: Amherst 7 Colby 6  Williams 7
2005
1.   Trinity 13
2.   Colby 6
3.   Tie: Bowdoin 4 Williams 11
2006
1.   Williams 15
2.   Trinity 14
3.   Middlebury 8
4.   Amherst 5
2007
1.   Middlebury 9
2.   Tie: Trinity 11 Williams 10
3.   Tufts 6
2008
1.   Trinity 14
2.   Williams 11
3.   Tie: Amherst  8  Middlebury 8
2009
1.   Amherst 7
2.   Tie: Trinity 10  Williams 8
3.   Middlebury 10
2010
1.   Williams 14
2.   Trinity 10
3.   Amherst  6
4.   Tie: Colby 4 Middlebury 5
2011
1.   Amherst  13
2.   Trinity  12
3.   Williams  9
4.   Tie: Bowdoin 3 Middlebury 5
2012
1.   Trinity 12
2.   Middlebury 6
3.   Amherst 9
4.   Bates  4
2013
1. Tie: Amherst 9 Middlebury 9 Wesleyan 12
2. Trinity 10
2014
1.   Amherst 10
2.   Wesleyan 14
3.   Middlebury 9
4.   Trinity 11
2015
1.   Amherst 15
2.   Trinity 12
3.   Tufts 7
4.   Middlebury 9
2016
1. Trinity 19
2. Tufts  10
3. Tie Middlebury 8 Wesleyan 12
2017
1. Trinity  14
2. Middlebury 10
3. Amherst 10
4. Wesleyan 8
2018
1. Trinity (8-1)  12
2. Amherst (8-1) 12
3. Tufts  7
4. Tie Middlebury 7 Wesleyan 6
2019
1. Middlebury 11
2. Wesleyan 13
3. Trinity 9
4. Amherst 7
2021
1. Williams 11
2. Trinity 10
3. Wesleyan 8
4. Amherst 6
2022:
1. Trinity 14
2. Middlebury 8
3. Tie Tufts 8 Wesleyan 8

[BigKat]

Charlie- Sounds like you you know a lot about the QB situation at Trinity.   Probably makes sense to know what a kid's name is if you pretend to know what his abilities are.  Zebrowski aka "dembrowski" is more than adequate throwing the football.  But I guess you are some sort of "QB Whisperer" who can judge someone's throwing ability with a sample size of approx.40 passes thrown during mop up duty.

Gate90, I am interested on how you are so knowledgable on the projected Trinity Quarterback? Going back in your post history, it seems you know quite a bit about not only him, but the program as a whole. Any insider secrets you are holding onto? Would love to know!

No secrets have a great of friends in the NESCAC community.

Translation: Chaz has some "inside" friends in the league and literally no QB acumen or whispering ability.

[Bantam4life]

Charlie- Sounds like you you know a lot about the QB situation at Trinity.   Probably makes sense to know what a kid's name is if you pretend to know what his abilities are.  Zebrowski aka "dembrowski" is more than adequate throwing the football.  But I guess you are some sort of "QB Whisperer" who can judge someone's throwing ability with a sample size of approx.40 passes thrown during mop up duty.

I put his name on the HUDl tape Jake Robbins three years eligibility remaining. If you look at his HUDL tape can make all the throws. I think if he was at West Virginia even on a red hsirt can certainly play at the NESCAC level. Makes more sense with all his elibility and talent with a solid Spring would take the duties. I am not a QB Whisperer if I was I would say that Fetter took the reins at QB after Spring Football and covid season. This situation is alomost identical I am not saying he is going to be the next Fetter but very coincidental

Charlie- I think that Robbins is the likely choice in 2 years with his remaining eligibility but I just don't see any way that Zebrowski is not the starter going into next season. He has been groomed as the QB of the future for a couple years now and I don't think the Bantam staff would have aggressively pushed for him to come back for his extra year if they weren't confident he was going to lead the Bants to the promise land again. Also worth noting we have heard Zebrowski has a big 4 banking job that he has already pushed back to do his 5th year. For a league that prides itself on high placing jobs and life after football it is hard to see a staff telling a kid to push his job offer back just to ride pine. I think that Zebrowski is the best and maybe only choice to lead the Roosters next season. Hell even Spencer Fetters biggest hater Gate90 is a Zebrowski guy (We may have an idea why). Overall next fall is the Zebrowski show

[Trin9-0]

All NESCAC awards finally announced: https://nescac.com/news/2023/11/28/nescac-football-awards-announced.aspx

Trinity leads the way with 10 first team selections and 14 overall. Spencer Fetter is named co-offensive MVP with Jaden Richardson. Tomás Kenary was named defensive MVP and Hamilton's Luke Kurzum was selected as the NESCAC Rookie of the Year. Interesting that the coaching award was given to the entire Middlebury staff. I suppose this will be the norm going forward.

[CardiacEphs]

Just took a look at the All NESCAC teams, very happy with the list and much of it makes sense but the hill that I will die on is that Williams punter Tim Brown has had an impact on games that is unrivaled against the league's other punters. Despite splitting reps with Maiuolo, Brown had the far greater average and was among the league leaders in yards per punt and punts inside the 20. His greatest impact comes from his ability to draw roughing the punter calls like no other. Brown's slow rhythm and quick release draws defends into thinking they can get the block. This ability led him to secure 5 roughing the punter penalties and first downs for a struggling Williams offense. From what I hear he is a first in last out type of team player.

[BigKat]

Yes, it's a fairly good list for the most part. Kudos to the all league guys.  If you think these coaches are that granular about picking ST players, you're crazy. Amherst punter was also outstanding and it takes two mouse clicks to see who led the country in punt defense. I guess the only ST slam dunk was the Trinity kicker who had a phenomenal season.

[MapleBBQChicken]

12 All-NESCAC selections plus DPOY and Coaching Staff of the Year for Middlebury. Great season for the NESCAC Co-Champions. NM goes a perfect 4/4 on OPOY, DPOY, ROY, and COY. And I think he got "Team of the Year" right too.

[Gate 91]

Congrats to Co-offensive player of the year Spencer Fetter! Very well deserved. Trinity coming in with 10 first team All-NESCAC selections, clearly the most talented team in the league this year by far. Interesting to see if they can regroup and do it all again next with without Fetter. Some ALL-NESCAC selections were shocking though, especially WR Donovan Wood not being selected to first team. I understand not all the selections can go to Trinity, Midd, Tufts but giving clearly worse players all-NESCAC selections does not sit right with me.

[westcoastnescac]

Gate91- clearly better than? Wood is a good player but all first team wrs deserve to be there and not sure who he would replace on that list

[Nescacman]

12 All-NESCAC selections plus DPOY and Coaching Staff of the Year for Middlebury. Great season for the NESCAC Co-Champions. NM goes a perfect 4/4 on OPOY, DPOY, ROY, and COY. And I think he got "Team of the Year" right too.

Thank you Maple. We're looking forward to receiving a NESCAC champion shirt from our friends up north.

[RoostersBy90]

Absolute robbery that #9 Malyke Davis from Hartford State was not named to either All NESCAC team. Are you telling me that #1 on Wesleyan who had 3 TDs scored on him by our dear friend Sean Clapp deserves a spot over Davis? Their stats are nearly identical with the edge to Davis for PBUs. I'm sure the voters didn't want to put the entire Hartford State secondary on the All NESCAC team but Davis got robbed.

[nescac1]

I just want to praise CardiacEphs for the Tim Brown love -- I must confess I've never paid any attention to what style of punting is most likely to lure defenders into roughing penalties, but I will include this in all future punting assessments.  Kind of the being-skilled-at-being-hit-by-pitches equivalent in football. 

The all-league picks look pretty solid to me.  I really thought that Ethan Scott, who was an absolute terror in several games, had a first team sort of season at LB for the Ephs, but when your team goes 3-6, the individual accolades are going to be a bit on the thin side, and fairly so.  Look forward to seeing what he and Cam Smith can do up front as seniors, and hopefully Tim Forth returns for his fifth year of eligibility to anchor a rebuilding offensive line (which loses two fifth-year seniors including a three-time all league player). 

Finally, this was a few pages back, but I was discouraged to see that Williams ranked lowest among NESCAC schools in football expenditures, despite having the largest endowment of any school in the conference.  On the bright side, Williams does have probably the best overall football/track/lacrosse/field hockey outdoor complex in the league.  But on the downside, Williams has since the completion of that facility ridiculously cheaped out on athletics expenditures in a myriad of ways, most notably letting its field house structurally deteriorate when it should have been replaced at least a decade ago.  The indoor athletics facilities as a whole are just pathetic at this point, especially when compared to what's been built at Colby and Middlebury.  Heck the school was going to stop live-streaming non-league games until an uproar shot that idea down.  I don't think there is a terribly strong correlation, for schools at the D3 level who are not paying players, between football spending and wins and losses, but cutting corners certainly can't be helpful and it would be nice if the school shifted some money from its ever-expanding administrative bureaucracy to athletes and other students. 

[TheSecondBrother]

I understand how Trinity dominates the conversation due to their longevity, but I feel it's time to give Middlebury more credit for their recent success.

Over the last four seasons:

Championships
   Middlebury 2x Champion 1x Runner-up
   Trinity 2x Champion 1x Runner-up
   Williams 1x Champion
   Wesleyan 1x Runner-up

Record
Trinity 30-6
Middlebury 27-9
Wesleyan 26-10
Williams 22-14
Tufts 20-16

All-NESCAC Selections
Trinity 47
Middlebury 38
Wesleyan 35

End-of-Season Awards (POTY, ROTY, COTY)
Middlebury 6
Wesleyan 3 (All Helbig lol)
Trinity 3
Tufts 2
Williams 2

I feel Middlebury is a hell of a lot closer to Trinity than any other team is to Middlebury right now.

[MammothDad]

All NESCAC awards finally announced: https://nescac.com/news/2023/11/28/nescac-football-awards-announced.aspx

Trinity leads the way with 10 first team selections and 14 overall. Spencer Fetter is named co-offensive MVP with Jaden Richardson. Tomás Kenary was named defensive MVP and Hamilton's Luke Kurzum was selected as the NESCAC Rookie of the Year. Interesting that the coaching award was given to the entire Middlebury staff. I suppose this will be the norm going forward.

Good for the HC if he requested that modification.

That's an indication of servant leadership and good to see.  He can only be as good as his Staff supports him.


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I am GLAD that the NESCAC does NOT participate in the D3 playoffs.  However, has there ever been any talk of the NESCAC supported Bowl Game to allow its Champ to play the #2 from a nearby Conference that has academic schools in it?

I know MIT, MMA and CGA are in the New England Women's and Men's Athletic Conference

I think the Liberty League has some academic schools as well.

Just thought it would be cool to have something for the Champ to play in and see how we measure up, with the caveat that each league's Champ would rather go to the D3 Playoffs.