FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[lumbercat]

Thats a great and accurate post- not sure we've seen NFO before but he just nailed it.
Many new posters here don't see the big picture but it's fun to see the passion.

[nescac1]

Jaden Richardson commits to Cal.  Quite a step up from Nescac to the PAC-12 (or whatever the PAC-12 will be, I've lost track).  What an insane era it's been for NESCAC receivers.  I can't imagine we will ever see a better duo than Richardson and Lutz (back to back POTYs and both ending career as D1 transfers). And it's not like Trinity and Wesleyan have been very far behind in terms of receiver talent. 

Berlutti is clearly the best returning Nescac QB but will have to really step to without Richardson and, potentially, most of his offensive line (and at a minimum one all-American and another all league player).  Of Tufts' remaining OL starters one is in the transfer portal, and the other two seniors who may also be gone (although both do have eligibility for another season).  The big triplets are around for another year and I assume will be counted on as seniors. 

Reese, Berlutti and Moore are still enough foundation for a strong offense but Tufts will certainly need at least a few OL back especially without Richardson dominating the game at WR. 

[BigKat]

Hey chuckles how about putting down the eggnog and using a little reading comprehension . I said now ,at this point in time ,they would choose Tufts over Amherst.

[Charlie]

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Did anyone like the change in the Willims Football Helmet color ?

Curious to know why the change.I liked the old colors of the helmets better.

I also think BAtes needs an upgrade in their Uniforms as well.

[Jonny Utah]

Not trying to be cryptic--you answered it. Most offered by Williams & Amherst will turn down other NESCAC based upon the academics, culture and winning. If they are beating out the rest of the league for players in recruiting, should that not transfer to the field of play?

Who do they "loose" (IYKYK  ) recruits to? Why didn't your son choose Middlebury over Amherst? Had not had a losing season since 1993 and 3 of the last 4 have been losing records. League has historically been dominated by Williams, Amherst and Trinity. Why were they winning in the first place? 

Loose?

Because Amherst was rated the better school, per most rankings.  But Middlebury is a great school and they put plenty on Wall Street.

Winning?  Per the consensus of this message board, your kid's weightlifting regimen, your "program culture" and your Head Coach are the ONLY 3 relevant factors ...

Confused more now but thanks for replying!

Mole, you are 100% correct! Amherst and Williams will win the recruiting battle for a kid 95% of the time. It comes down to putting the players in the right position for success and game planning/adjustments. No excuses for both Amherst and Williams to be where they are win/loss as they should be top 4 every year with the other two being Trinity and Tufts (different reasons).

Will respectfully disagree here. I won't debate the academics but several of the current Tufts' roster turned down offers from both those schools. Watched a Tufts' night game this year with 3 "impact" Amherst players from the '14/15 championships teams. All three to a man said they'd have chosen tufts now seeing the upgraded facilities, commitment to football and proximity to Boston. A no brainer.

The location is be coming more and more of an advantage for Tufts, Wesleyan and Trinity especially as the league starts to look for more out of region kids for talent. Most of those guys don't want to fly 3-6 hours and then drive another 2-3 to get to school every single time or have their parents have to do that to come watch a game. A much easier sell to be at some of the more rural schools if the kid is already from the northeast but that already limits your pool of kids significantly and drops the talent level you can get as well. I will say Amherst and Wesleyan have tried to get more out of region kids the last few years but have not had close to the success as tufts Wesleyan or even middlebury for whatever reason have found with the strategy.

Meh, for every kid that wants to be at a school near "Boston" you have plenty of others who want to get away from Boston and NYC to attend school.  If they are from outside the northeast there are similar options to Tufts/Trinity (JHU/MIT/Chicago/Wash U/CMU) 

Interesting talk here on this.  I still say most kids going to Nescac schools like the school/campus first and football second.  Lots of kids go to Trinity because of their business connections in NYC and Boston.  An equal amount of kids go to CBB because its "away" from the suburbs and its a new place for them.  A good portion of others go somewhere because family members went there.  Others go places because the coach recruits them hard and gets them a "spot". 

I think it is tough to pinpoint an exact formula as to why kids go to different schools.  It is obviously not an even playing field as some have higher standards and others have less success on the field. 

[BigKat]

Back to Logos

Did anyone like the change in the Willims Football Helmet color ?

Curious to know why the change.I liked the old colors of the helmets better.

I also think BAtes needs an upgrade in their Uniforms as well.

Chaz they were awful. LSU of western mass. Yeah bates needs massive overhaul of many things in that program.


It's almost at point where there should be a Nescac large division and a Nescac small. Fill in the other games with teams like MIT, endicott, etc etc. if you can't win 2 games in large, you get relegated down and visa versa if you run the table in small.

[lumbercat]

Back to Logos

Did anyone like the change in the Willims Football Helmet color ?

Curious to know why the change.I liked the old colors of the helmets better.

I also think BAtes needs an upgrade in their Uniforms as well.

Bates redesigned their uniforms prior to last season. They added the grey jerseys and pants which look great. They now have 3 different jersey and pant options creating several great combos. Check again Charlie and Kat.

[Hawk196]

Wow, back online....that was quite a wait.
Belated Happy New Year everyone

[nescac1]

It's been a pretty crazy stretch for NESCAC transfers since the boards went down.  Here I think is where things stand:

Jaden Richardson decommitted from Cal and chose USC - it will be utterly crazy to see a NESCAC WR playing for USC, which has sent countless receivers to NFL stardom.  That he and Phil Lutz were in the same receiving core continues to be wild. 

Donovan Wood (Midd) has offers from Marist and Delaware
Cole Kennon (Midd) has a preferred walk on offer from Missouri
Tyler Jameson (Trinity) received offers from Marist, EKU and Sacred Heart, where he committed
Joshua East (Colby) has an offer from Marist
Matt O'Conner (a Tufts back-up QB) transferred to Gettysburg

Other guys in the transfer portal:

Mark Howrigan (Hamilton)
Ezra Jennifer (Wesleyan)
EJ Brister (Colby)
Mark Kassis (Colby)
Thomas Elkhoury (Wesleyan)

I imagine there may be others.  The three biggest names who could definitely move up if they had a desire, who I've not seen mentioned in the portal, are Matthew Jumes, Sean Clapp and Tomas Kenary. 

Along with Tomlinson playing his second year at N.H., there are going to be quite a few NESCAC transfers to track next season ...

[NESCACFball24/7]

It's been a pretty crazy stretch for NESCAC transfers since the boards went down.  Here I think is where things stand:

Jason Richardson decommitted from Cal and chose USC - it will be utterly crazy to see a NESCAC WR playing for USC, which has sent countless receivers to NFL stardom.  That he and Phil Lutz were in the same receiving core continues to be wild. 

Donovan Wood (Midd) has offers from Marist and Delaware
Cole Kennon (Midd) has a preferred walk on offer from Missouri
Tyler Jameson (Trinity) received offers from Marist, EKU and Sacred Heart, where he committed
Joshua East (Colby) has an offer from Marist
Matt O'Conner (a Tufts back-up QB) transferred to Gettysburg

Other guys in the transfer portal:

Mark Howrigan (Hamilton)
Ezra Jennifer (Wesleyan)
EJ Brister (Colby)
Mark Kassis (Colby)
Thomas Elkhoury (Wesleyan)

I imagine there mayu be others.  Along with Tomlinson playing his second year at N.H., there are going to be quite a few NESCAC transfers to track next season ...

How is it that a guy like Wood only receives two late FCS offers while Richardson got a plethora of FBS and power 4 offers? Lets be real, Wood was just more talented and the production over their careers shows this. 

Fun fact though, Donovan Wood originallly committed to Tufts in the same class as Richardson before switching to middleburry.

[nescac1]

First of all, I obviously meant Jaden not Jason Richardson, my bad.  Second, regarding Wood, "only" receiving two late FCS offers is no joke!  Wood seemed to receive a fairly similar level of interest as Lutz and Tomlinson the prior year, and I don't think he is clearly superior to either, all were historically great NESCAC receivers from an ear of simply crazy depth in the league at that position. 

Which means, there is something about Richardson that is unique from ALL those guys, all of whom put up absolutely monster stats. Jaden got offers from USC, Iowa State, Utah, Cal, UCF, Washington and Wisconsin, among others. Those coaches are no dummies.  Historical performance doesn't really matter to them, what matters is, does he bring skills to the table which will help at the highest level of college football.  My guess is that his size-speed combo is competitive with other top flight D1 receivers -- there is a HUGE difference between say a 6'2 4.5 guy and a 6'1 4.7 guy (not that I know either of these guys' 40 time, but that would be the sort of thing that would sway coaches at that level).  Or there is just something on his tape that stands out in a way that some other dominant D3 guys simply don't have.  But again, the sheer number of power conference D1 offers suggests that Richardson projects to D1 unlike any WR we've seen before in NESCAC. 

[The truth 101]

First of all, I obviously meant Jaden not Jason Richardson, my bad.  Second, regarding Wood, "only" receiving two late FCS offers is no joke!  Wood seemed to receive a fairly similar level of interest as Lutz and Tomlinson the prior year, and I don't think he is clearly superior to either, all were historically great NESCAC receivers from an ear of simply crazy depth in the league at that position. 

Which means, there is something about Richardson that is unique from ALL those guys, all of whom put up absolutely monster stats. Jaden got offers from USC, Iowa State, Utah, Cal, UCF, Washington and Wisconsin, among others. Those coaches are no dummies.  Historical performance doesn't really matter to them, what matters is, does he bring skills to the table which will help at the highest level of college football.  My guess is that his size-speed combo is competitive with other top flight D1 receivers -- there is a HUGE difference between say a 6'2 4.5 guy and a 6'1 4.7 guy (not that I know either of these guys' 40 time, but that would be the sort of thing that would sway coaches at that level).  Or there is just something on his tape that stands out in a way that some other dominant D3 guys simply don't have.  But again, the sheer number of power conference D1 offers suggests that Richardson projects to D1 unlike any WR we've seen before in NESCAC. 

Agreed nescac1 The 6'2/6'3 gram is probably much more attractive than the 6'0 frame as well as Richardson seemed to have more top end speed at least from the film Ive watched. Not to mention his blocking was much more a part of his game than it was for wood adding another element. Richardson also had two years of eligibility while wood had 1 even if he isn't immediately ready to make the jump the staff at any given school would have more time with him.Both all time great nescac receivers and it honestly seems pretty clear why a school would either of them but can't argue with Richardsons 3TD performance against the best team in the league among other great performances this past year.

[The truth 101]

First of all, I obviously meant Jaden not Jason Richardson, my bad.  Second, regarding Wood, "only" receiving two late FCS offers is no joke!  Wood seemed to receive a fairly similar level of interest as Lutz and Tomlinson the prior year, and I don't think he is clearly superior to either, all were historically great NESCAC receivers from an ear of simply crazy depth in the league at that position. 

Which means, there is something about Richardson that is unique from ALL those guys, all of whom put up absolutely monster stats. Jaden got offers from USC, Iowa State, Utah, Cal, UCF, Washington and Wisconsin, among others. Those coaches are no dummies.  Historical performance doesn't really matter to them, what matters is, does he bring skills to the table which will help at the highest level of college football.  My guess is that his size-speed combo is competitive with other top flight D1 receivers -- there is a HUGE difference between say a 6'2 4.5 guy and a 6'1 4.7 guy (not that I know either of these guys' 40 time, but that would be the sort of thing that would sway coaches at that level).  Or there is just something on his tape that stands out in a way that some other dominant D3 guys simply don't have.  But again, the sheer number of power conference D1 offers suggests that Richardson projects to D1 unlike any WR we've seen before in NESCAC. 

Agreed nescac1 The 6'2/6'3 gram is probably much more attractive than the 6'0 frame as well as Richardson seemed to have more top end speed at least from the film Ive watched. Not to mention his blocking was much more a part of his game than it was for wood adding another element. Richardson also had two years of eligibility while wood had 1 even if he isn't immediately ready to make the jump the staff at any given school would have more time with him.Both all time great nescac receivers and it honestly seems pretty clear why a school would either of them but can't argue with Richardsons 3TD performance against the best team in the league among other great performances this past year.

*frame rather than gram

[NESCACFball24/7]

By that standard Tomlinson should have had similarly interest to richardson. Tomlinson was bigger and had better stats. The same goes for clapp this year. I don't understand your point at all.

[The truth 101]

By that standard Tomlinson should have had similarly interest to richardson. Tomlinson was bigger and had better stats. The same goes for clapp this year. I don't understand your point at all.

I simply compared wood to Richardson which is an easy case to assess. As for the other two clapp isn't even in the portal so I don't understand why you bring him up... One of my points was clearly blocking which Richardson did at a much better clip than Tomlinson. Other than that I will say there is no reason Tomlinson shouldn't have had similar success offer wise. He clearly fits right in as a top reciever at UNH and looked great last year.