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Former CAC Coach

Quote from: Trin9-0 on October 22, 2024, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: GroundandPound on October 22, 2024, 02:16:22 PMWow!!! Yardage is not even close.  There may be others for #2 behind Girard.

Well, I went down a rabbit hole and ended up tracking down every NESCAC receiver to amass over 2,000 career receiving yards since the league formed in 1970. I've bolded the yardage leader from each school. The list includes 9 players from Trinity, 4 from Middlebury, 3 from Wesleyan, 2 from Tufts and one apiece from Amherst, Colby, and Williams (no one from Bowdoin or Hamilton has reached the milestone).

Player    Rec    Yards    TDs   
Jon Girard (Trinity 2017-'21)1633,03529
Matt Perceval (Wesleyan 1996-'99)1662,87936
Jon Troy (Tufts 1996-'99)1842,51112
Danny Noyes (Colby 1998-'01)1642,466 ?
Tom McDavitt (Trinity 1991-'94)1502,36421
Freddie Scott (Amherst 1971-'73)1432,33627
Tim McNamara (Trinity 1981-'84)1462,31319
Ron Duckett (Trinity 1970-'73)1542,28919
Pat McNamara (Trinity 1976-'79)1412,28020
Phil Lutz (Tufts 2021-'22)1542,27318
Zach Driscoll (Middlebury 2009-'12)1722,25729
Donovan Wood (Middlebury 2020-'23)1312,24619
Sean Clapp (Trinity 2021-Present)151*2,220*21*
Koby Schofer (Trinity 2016-'19)1342,15923
Conrado Banky (Middlebury 2015-'18)1332,15623
Larry DiGiammarino (Bates 1978-'81)1512,12317
Frank Stola (Williams 2017-'21)1422,12329
Matt Minno (Middlebury 2012-'15)1362,09330
Terry McNamara (Trinity 1986-'89)1572,09116
Mike Breuler (Wesleyan 2014-'17)1652,04918
Pat Moffett (Wesleyan 2000-'03)1062,03613
DeVante Reid (Trinity 2018-'22)1272,02621

Given his absurd TD numbers and the fact that he played in 3 fewer games than Girard I'm giving the nod to Perceval as the All-Time NESCAC Wide Receiver G.O.A.T.
Shoutout to the Jumbos' Jon Troy for that reception total but how did he only score 12 TDs?!

If anyone from Colby knows how many career receiving TDs Danny Noyes had please feel free to update.

*Notes active player.
G&P - you missed one from Hamilton:
                           Rec    Yds   TDs
Fred Colman   1984-1987    130   2,250  26

Freddie was a tall, lanky fearless receiver for the Fighting Continentals during the period of the best Hamilton teams....was part of the last 6-win team for them

lumbercat

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Quote from: Yipper on October 23, 2024, 10:29:10 AMRe. pass catchers, you younger enthusiasts might want to add the NFL yardage of Amherst's Freddie Scott, and the same for his LJ predecessor Jean Fugett, who also had a long pro career. Of course, Freddie had to catch passes against a future pro from Williams, Scott Perry, who on the side was a 24-foot long jumper. Those kids might even earn NESCAC roster spots today, you suppose?


Great one Yipper

Fugett, Freddie Scott and Scott Perry had good NFL careers. I'll add Jack Maitland from Williams as well. Legit NFL prospects in the NESCAC were more prevalent then.

Didn't know Perry was a 24' long jumper, great athlete with great speed.
He came into the NFL with the Bengals along with 2 time Heisman winner Archie Griffin. Griffin couldn't believe a D3 kid from Williams ran a faster 40 time than he did.
Griffin thought it was a mistake and challenged Perry to a 40 yard match race. Perry won handily and later admitted that he didn't even really have to let it all out and he was not a cocky guy by any means. He had a very solid 6 or 7 year in the NFL and believe he was All Pro once.

Yipper

In the same era Maitland played for a Super Bowl champion (Baltimore), LJ alum Doug Swift was a defensive starter on Miami's undefeated championship team. It was not unusual to find NFL scouts in the press box of games back then.

lumbercat

No doubt Yipper
And on several occasions there were 2 or more future NFL players on the field in Amherst-Williams games.

GroundandPound

We might as well get all the input we can for the revised lists at the season's end.  This is what I had for QBs...

TOP 5 NESCAC QBs 2000-2024
Foote Midd 2011, 2012, 2013
Fetter Trinity 2021, 2022 2nd, 2023
Maimaron Williams 2018 2nd, 2019 2nd, 2021
McKillop Midd 2008 2nd, 2009, 2010 2nd
Berluti Tufts 2022, 2023 2nd, ???

Reardon Williams 2001, 2002
Keenan Midd 2003, 2004
Lucey Williams 2006, 2007
Milano Midd 2014, 2015
Puzzo Trinity 2016, 2017
 

SpringSt7

Quote from: Former CAC Coach on October 23, 2024, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: Trin9-0 on October 22, 2024, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: GroundandPound on October 22, 2024, 02:16:22 PMWow!!! Yardage is not even close.  There may be others for #2 behind Girard.

Well, I went down a rabbit hole and ended up tracking down every NESCAC receiver to amass over 2,000 career receiving yards since the league formed in 1970. I've bolded the yardage leader from each school. The list includes 9 players from Trinity, 4 from Middlebury, 3 from Wesleyan, 2 from Tufts and one apiece from Amherst, Colby, and Williams (no one from Bowdoin or Hamilton has reached the milestone).

Player    Rec    Yards    TDs   
Jon Girard (Trinity 2017-'21)1633,03529
Matt Perceval (Wesleyan 1996-'99)1662,87936
Jon Troy (Tufts 1996-'99)1842,51112
Danny Noyes (Colby 1998-'01)1642,466 ?
Tom McDavitt (Trinity 1991-'94)1502,36421
Freddie Scott (Amherst 1971-'73)1432,33627
Tim McNamara (Trinity 1981-'84)1462,31319
Ron Duckett (Trinity 1970-'73)1542,28919
Pat McNamara (Trinity 1976-'79)1412,28020
Phil Lutz (Tufts 2021-'22)1542,27318
Zach Driscoll (Middlebury 2009-'12)1722,25729
Donovan Wood (Middlebury 2020-'23)1312,24619
Sean Clapp (Trinity 2021-Present)151*2,220*21*
Koby Schofer (Trinity 2016-'19)1342,15923
Conrado Banky (Middlebury 2015-'18)1332,15623
Larry DiGiammarino (Bates 1978-'81)1512,12317
Frank Stola (Williams 2017-'21)1422,12329
Matt Minno (Middlebury 2012-'15)1362,09330
Terry McNamara (Trinity 1986-'89)1572,09116
Mike Breuler (Wesleyan 2014-'17)1652,04918
Pat Moffett (Wesleyan 2000-'03)1062,03613
DeVante Reid (Trinity 2018-'22)1272,02621

Given his absurd TD numbers and the fact that he played in 3 fewer games than Girard I'm giving the nod to Perceval as the All-Time NESCAC Wide Receiver G.O.A.T.
Shoutout to the Jumbos' Jon Troy for that reception total but how did he only score 12 TDs?!

If anyone from Colby knows how many career receiving TDs Danny Noyes had please feel free to update.

*Notes active player.
G&P - you missed one from Hamilton:
                           Rec    Yds   TDs
Fred Colman   1984-1987    130   2,250  26

Freddie was a tall, lanky fearless receiver for the Fighting Continentals during the period of the best Hamilton teams....was part of the last 6-win team for them

Sounds like a good post for the Liberty League board ;)

SpringSt7

Quote from: GroundandPound on October 23, 2024, 12:43:19 PMWe might as well get all the input we can for the revised lists at the season's end.  This is what I had for QBs...

TOP 5 NESCAC QBs 2000-2024
Foote Midd 2011, 2012, 2013
Fetter Trinity 2021, 2022 2nd, 2023
Maimaron Williams 2018 2nd, 2019 2nd, 2021
McKillop Midd 2008 2nd, 2009, 2010 2nd
Berluti Tufts 2022, 2023 2nd, ???

Reardon Williams 2001, 2002
Keenan Midd 2003, 2004
Lucey Williams 2006, 2007
Milano Midd 2014, 2015
Puzzo Trinity 2016, 2017
 

If those years are for all-league mentions, Maimaron was also 2nd team in 2017 so a 4 time all league player. I would have Lucey above Maimaron for all time Williams QBs though. Loved Maimaron but think his status as a 4x starter and the face of the Raymond rebuild overrated him a touch. The talent on that team at the end of his career was insane, you could argue he was the 4th best player in his class behind Rothmann, Stola, and Watson.

Fetter and Berluti both recipients of recency bias IMO as well.

nescac1

I hate to echo SpringSt7 again but if I could take one Williams QB it would definitely be Lucey.  Maimaron, Keenan, Moffitt would be a tight battle for second. Maimaron - elite runner and elite IQ, while Keenan and Moffitt had cannons.  Lucey though had the whole package. 

Reardon would be in my next group. 

Lucey definitely a top five Nescac QB since 2000.  I think Foote probably number one overall although Midd system is uber QB friendly.  Still that dude was legit. 

Trin9-0

Quote from: Former CAC Coach on October 23, 2024, 11:16:26 AMG&P - you missed one from Hamilton:
                           Rec    Yds   TDs
Fred Colman   1984-1987    130   2,250  26

Freddie was a tall, lanky fearless receiver for the Fighting Continentals during the period of the best Hamilton teams....was part of the last 6-win team for them

Thanks and apologies for the omission. I've updated the original post.
NESCAC CHAMPIONS: 1974, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1987, 1991, 1993, 1996, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2022, 2023
UNDEFEATED SEASONS: 1911, 1915, 1934, 1949, 1954, 1955, 1993, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2022

MammothDad

I'm sure Amherst is an easy team for most of you to root against.

But for the love of excitement, do any of you get tired of beating a team that can't score and barely get first downs?

;)

Congrats to Colby, Bowdoin and Tufts for stomping us of late!

Middlebury, thank you for toying with us in the 2nd half, giving us a false hope ...

... it was fun while it lasted.


Help me out, journeymen of NESCAC FB ...

... if your OL struggles to run straight forward to allow your RBs to bruise, as Amherst did more years removed than they want to acknowledge, would not 5 step drops ALSO be dangerous???

Would not an OC help a struggling OL out by mixing in QB draws, screens, play action pass, run pass options, the option, a reverse a dang flea flicker, hook and lateral, etc...

SOMETHING???

Or does blocking improve after the 7th series ending in a punt, allowing the offense to suddenly run at will and pass out of a 5 step drop?!?

okay, rant over but its getting old and I see nothing changing?!?

Thanks again for those of you who share stats and answer questions!  You guys really help a guy new to the league.

BantChamps

Quote from: mhoncho123 on October 23, 2024, 10:46:16 AMMr GroundandPounder,

Thank you for mentioning these points. Illegal surveillance, two way communication systems, referee interference was all the evidence I cited in my appeal. I hadn't previously considered the uniform scheme. That could explain the breach in my weather forecast modeling algorithm as well.  If I were a betting man, which I am, I would bet the under of the 57 degrees for Saturday. My modeling set the high for Saturday in Lewiston at 48 degrees, so I believe the under is a safe bet. Thank you for your support for the truth, and I hope Secretary Copeland will hear our pleas for the truth.

Unfortunately, I won't be in Lewiston this weekend. I have some government person come to my estate in the morning to attempt to adjudicate a dispute with my neighbor. Hopefully, this will be done by kickoff, so I can catch the game. I already have my reservation at Golden Corral for Kickoff (Joking, I don't have to make reservations. They keep a booth permanently reserved for me).

- Honcho, NESCAC Legend

This gag is the best thing to happen to these boards since I have been reading them.

Nescacman

Quote from: BantChamps on October 23, 2024, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: mhoncho123 on October 23, 2024, 10:46:16 AMMr GroundandPounder,

Thank you for mentioning these points. Illegal surveillance, two way communication systems, referee interference was all the evidence I cited in my appeal. I hadn't previously considered the uniform scheme. That could explain the breach in my weather forecast modeling algorithm as well.  If I were a betting man, which I am, I would bet the under of the 57 degrees for Saturday. My modeling set the high for Saturday in Lewiston at 48 degrees, so I believe the under is a safe bet. Thank you for your support for the truth, and I hope Secretary Copeland will hear our pleas for the truth.

Unfortunately, I won't be in Lewiston this weekend. I have some government person come to my estate in the morning to attempt to adjudicate a dispute with my neighbor. Hopefully, this will be done by kickoff, so I can catch the game. I already have my reservation at Golden Corral for Kickoff (Joking, I don't have to make reservations. They keep a booth permanently reserved for me).

- Honcho, NESCAC Legend

This gag is the best thing to happen to these boards since I have been reading them.

It's good, but Al Davis was better...

Do a search and let us know what you think...

NM

Charlie

Have been reading about people geting upset at Amherst football. I do have a question and I do not know if there is any data to help. IS there any data of financial contributions made from football alumni of NESCAC schools. The reason I ask is that only when football Alumni who are raising money for the program gets tired of there College loosing every year will they have any influence on admissions on how many athletes are allowed in and there bands.

The contributions may sway a school and turn arounds programs.Only way for football programs to do so and also better recruiting.


NescacNewbie

Quote from: Charlie on October 23, 2024, 08:21:43 PMHave been reading about people geting upset at Amherst football. I do have a question and I do not know if there is any data to help. IS there any data of financial contributions made from football alumni of NESCAC schools. The reason I ask is that only when football Alumni who are raising money for the program gets tired of there College loosing every year will they have any influence on admissions on how many athletes are allowed in and there bands.

The contributions may sway a school and turn arounds programs.Only way for football programs to do so and also better recruiting.



Absolutely the alumni hold a lot of power and influence with the administration. Not the AD administration, the big dogs in the corner offices. Athletics are a business at these schools, don't mistake that for a moment.

Charlie

Quote from: NescacNewbie on October 23, 2024, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: Charlie on October 23, 2024, 08:21:43 PMHave been reading about people geting upset at Amherst football. I do have a question and I do not know if there is any data to help. IS there any data of financial contributions made from football alumni of NESCAC schools. The reason I ask is that only when football Alumni who are raising money for the program gets tired of there College loosing every year will they have any influence on admissions on how many athletes are allowed in and there bands.

The contributions may sway a school and turn arounds programs.Only way for football programs to do so and also better recruiting.



Absolutely the alumni hold a lot of power and influence with the administration. Not the AD administration, the big dogs in the corner offices. Athletics are a business at these schools, don't mistake that for a moment.

Then I am perplexed as to why the Amherst football program has been in decline for so long. If Alumni are finacially contributing to the school then something is perplexing ?