FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[Jonny Utah]

and how about tufts?  those guys are 2 or 3 plays away from being 4-0 and atop the nescac.....

[mariner75]

Agree to a point......(& I'm a Jumbo supporter).  Mistakes again killed Tufts, as in last year's game (look at those stats!) vs. Bowdoin.  Still convinced that Tufts is the better team, but that's why they play the games, right?  Against Trin, you never had the feeling that Tufts would be able to score, even with the last minute drive that had some spectacular catches until the int with 8 secs left.  During the second half, it felt like the Defense would need to get a score or get a turnover in superior field position but obviously that never happened. That's the way it seems every year in the NESCAC...a couple of plays can mean the difference for almost every team....& that's why it's great to watch.

[formerbant10]

As former Hackley School Alum Chris Berman would say..."And that's why they play the games!"

[Bants79]

On the topic of Trinity football players being on drugs, moronic or anything to that extent, I defy anyone from another school to prove either of the claims.  Furthermore, if any of the other Nescac schools had the oppurtunity to take our players they would despite the grades.  Face it,  the other teams in the league are outworked year round by the players and the coaches and that is the only reason for the 20 something consecutive wins

[Jonny Utah]

is that Williams on the front page there opposite Trinity in that picture??  Ugly uniforms if it is, I like the old ones.....

check out the Hamilton coaching staff....they look like a cocky bunch of bastards if you ask me...

http://www.hamilton.edu/athletics/teamcoach.cfm?Identifier=mfootball

[formerbant10]

Utah....thats Amherst with Mr. Olenoski

[Jonny Utah]

thats what i thought, but i didnt know amherst got rid of that big old english A on their helmets

[Trin9-0]

Yeah, huge mistake by Amherst ditching the Old English A... it was a good look. The numbers on the helmet look is played-out. First Tufts then Amhersts, didn't Colby do it one year too, but only on one side (talk about ugly).

The best Uni's in the NESCAC have to be Middlebury, good colors and a classic helmet.

The worst is a toss up between Wesleyan (plain helmets, and their jerseys always look 2 sizes too big) and Tufts (nobody can make brown and powder blue look good together)

Also, Bowdoin should put the paw print back on their helmets, and Bates needs a new logo.

Anyone else have any opinions?

[speedy]

On the topic of Trinity football players being on drugs, moronic or anything to that extent, I defy anyone from another school to prove either of the claims.  Furthermore, if any of the other Nescac schools had the oppurtunity to take our players they would despite the grades.  Face it,  the other teams in the league are outworked year round by the players and the coaches and that is the only reason for the 20 something consecutive wins

Well, I guess we know who might be into the drugs . . .

[bant551]

The attitude of some of these people is astonishing and it makes me very thankful that I chose Trinity over Williams.  If I went to Williams, would I too be one of those people who looks at other people who went to a lower-ranked, yet elite liberal arts college as being inferior to myself?  How would I view people who went to State schools, or (GASP), maybe didn't even go to college at all?  Like trash?

Do you all honesty know how you all sound?  Trying to make other people embarassed because they might have slightly lower SATS (though almost uniformly FAR, FAR above the national average) and who went to a school that wasn't quite as fancyas your own is ridiculous.

An honest question: how do some of "you people" (i.e., the ones who are mocking Trinity posters and athletes present and past and attacking their intellect) think of people who weren't even able to get into Trinity?  If you are so much better than Trinity people, are those people (you know, the ones who are so amazingly worthless that they didn't get into Trinity) below dirt?  Do they have any value as human beings at all?  Most people in my year (having graduated a few years ago and working or going to grad school) know the type of jerks with high tight pants that think they are better than you because they went to a fancier school, or did better on the SATs.  I often wonder if they know how much everyone else hates them.  Anyway....

Above and beyond all the astonishing condescention, I'm almost embarassed for those who whine all day long and dream up reasons why they aren't able to achieve the same feats on the athletic field as Trinity.  In my final high school football game, I heard some players talking about how the team that creamed us had a player who should have been ineligible because of bad grades.  It made me sick.  We friggin' lost the game, real bad, and these turds were coming up with any excuse possible.  It takes alot to be a man and accept the fact that someone else is better than you.  Grow up.

[saul]

study break and i am high atop mountain dew. lol....i mean screaming.  trinity people: i'm lovin' the hurt, the feelin' all defensive 'bout your school. you guys know, i mean you just know, deep down  that you're the worst school academically in the league. you're rock bottom, boys, and it's not just you guys who know it, everybody knows it! trinity's not even in the top 100 most selective schools in the country-- now that's lame on a national level!  but you're not talkin' about kickin' butt on a national level just yet, right-- was that tufts you hammered 7-0 this weekend?-- and this is a nescac post, after all, so let's keep the nescac frame of reference here.  now, if i went to that embarrassment, that disgrace of a dump in hartford, i'd be all hurt and defensive too. really i would and, admit it, you even paid to go there. while your school's rep is the pits of the league, your school's been working on building up a program that's kickin' ass in the mighty nescac. good to see where the priorities are, right? well at least you can go destroy mt. union in the playoffs come december...oh,wait..... you can't. hey, now that doesn't seem like you're getting maximum utility out those ballplayin' boneheads bants does it? lol, every school you play is better than you academically and  it's not about someone's attitude or opinion, fellas, it's about facts....cold.....hard....quantifiable metrics. yes, just the facts, boys.....and that's what's gotta hurt soooooooo much. yes, bant551, it takes a man to admit that someone's better than you. now get someone to read this post to you
(very) slowly.... and then "grow up."


 

[frank uible]

saul: You are an embarassment to yourself and indirectly the institutions with which you are aligned.

[ktroutvon]

I have to agree with Frank. 

I also think its a little disinegenuous to talk about Trinity as though they were far and away less prestigious than all the other NESCAC schools.  I went to an LL school (let the bashing begin), but was accepted to Hamilton and Trinity.  I'm also pretty sure that I could have gotten into Tufts, Colby and Bates (and possibly Wesleyan).  Clearly Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Bowdoin and Wesleyan are a little better than the others, but often times the difference is study habits (which is a good thing) and not intelligence.  I only knew one Trinity football player and he was a crazy guy from N. Jersey so I can't speak for the team, but realistically, the gap isn't as large as its made out to be. 

I suppose that the Trinity people whould just accept it though.  Its pretty much human nature for this type of behavior to occur. 

For the record, anyone at Trinity who thinks they will hold their own with a top-5 ranked school is insane.  Look at LL schools record in the playoffs against those types of schools. 

[bant551]

Saul, would you recommend that when i appear in front of a Judge as an advocate for a client, that I explain to him that my college was a top-25 liberal arts college, but that it is ranked slightly lower than the other schools in the league?

I just hope that you keep this stuff to yourself when you talk to people face-to-face.  That type of elitist attitude is probably indicative of how you view and treat other people in this world who didn't attend a school that is ranked as highly as yours.

You know, I never knew it would come to this.  Back when I was there (including my senior year), I never heard ANY of this stuff.  I mean none at all.  That is because at the time, with the EXACT SAME recruiting practices and academic standards, we went 4-4, 4-4, and a scrappy 7-1 in mostly close games.  I wish I could have gone back in time and told Priore not to work as hard, and tell the players to take most of the summers off from weightlifting like they do at Williams.  Have you ever even seen their weightroom over there?  I've visited a bunch of times and think Williams is a nice place, but if you go into that weightroom, first of all, there is very little power-lifting equipment, and second of all, I saw one, maybe two football players in the gym.  Its a different world these days and your schools will not be able to compete if they don't put in the effort in the off-season.  I saw guys at Trinity from before Priore that Priore inherited who became monsters from his lifting and running program, sans juice.

The whole crying when someone is better than you deal wasn't really my bag.  Maybe THIS is the direction the NESCAC is going in.  I can assure you that most of the posters here think it is hysterical when you post things like that.  "What kind of a whimp would write these things", etc.

It reminds me of "Thats all right, thats OK, you will pump our gas someday".  There is probably nothing more humiliating to the ATHLETES ON THE FIELD than when their crowd tries to degrade the other team that just kicked their butts all over the field.   But I guess you are a player and you are into that stuff.

[Trin9-0]

It's refreshing to read unbiased opinions from those with no NESCAC ties.

Saul: There is always somebody better than you. Trinity probably wouldn't beat the top 5 Division III team in the country. But those teams wouldn't beat a good DII team, and those teams wouldn't stand a chance against any decent 1A team. Just as Trinity isn't as highly ranked as Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin etc. (yes, we can admit it like men) those schools can't compete with Ivy League schools and don't have the national reputation of a Stanford or Duke While we're at it why not throw in Oxford and Cambridge?

Trinity is in the NESCAC because it is one of the premier liberal arts colleges in the country. My problem with your post Saul isn't that I feel inferior because of my school, or it's national academic ranking. I'm actually very proud to have been lucky enough to attend such a prestigious college. I met great friends and have a great career, due in large part to my decision to go there. My problem is that you seem to blame the football program for Trinity's academic standing.

Why didn't any one at Williams or Amherst complain about Trinity's admissions standards until the Bantams started soundly beating them in football? I find it hard to believe that Chuck Priore and his 10 tips a year are enough to bring down the academic reputation of a school with more than 2,000 students. That's 0.02% for 40 players (10 per year) who were admitted to Trinity with help from the football program.

You were right about one thing Saul... this IS a NESCAC board. However, keep in mind it is a NESCAC FOOTBALL board. So please get off of your pedestal and come back down to earth so that we can discuss some pigskin. If you do indeed insist on contributing your opinion please continue with your scintillating remarks about how Trinity didn't win by enough points. I'll hapilly argue all day about a sloppy Trinity win... especially if it's against Amherst.

By the way Saul I'll be heading up your way on Nov. 5th for the Bants vs Jeffs... I'd love the oportunity to speak to you man to man at the tailgate and discuss

that embarrassment, that disgrace of a dump in hartford

with you in person. Please let me know if you'll be available.