FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[bant551]

I think that the good NESCAC teams would obliterate Ivy JV teams.

Ivy's don't have scholarships, right?

A lot of people would chose Williams and Amherst and maybe another NESCAC or two as better academic institutions than all or most of the Ivy's.

Don't see where their huge advantage is, particularly for their JV teams!

[Col. Partridge]

A few points of comparison were provided this past weekend when Middlebury scrimmaged the Dartmouth JVs and Hamilton scrimmaged the Colgate JVs (not Ivy, but I think they were I-AA champs or runners-up not too long ago).   I'm not sure about the results of either of those scrimmages.

[Jonny Utah]

A few points of comparison were provided this past weekend when Middlebury scrimmaged the Dartmouth JVs and Hamilton scrimmaged the Colgate JVs (not Ivy, but I think they were I-AA champs or runners-up not too long ago).   I'm not sure about the results of either of those scrimmages.

Im going to say that if the Trinity Football team played the Yale JV team in a game, Trinity would win 41-6.  If Trinity played the Yale varisity team, Yale would win 35-14

[Col. Partridge]

JU--Ithaca scrimmages the Cornell varsity, right?   How does that typically go?

[pleasedontflex]

I think that the good NESCAC teams would obliterate Ivy JV teams.

Ivy's don't have scholarships, right?

A lot of people would chose Williams and Amherst and maybe another NESCAC or two as better academic institutions than all or most of the Ivy's.

Don't see where their huge advantage is, particularly for their JV teams!

Dude who cares...it wont ever happen....there will never be an answer to an argument such as WHO WOULD WIN....BC JV or Williams.....and this message board should be about the NESCAC and the teams performances within in NESCAC not how every NESCAC team would measure up against other divisions...if any of us were that good ....we would have all been playing somewhere else so who cares about that crap....because you are just going to argue semantics

[bant551]

Arguing semantics means usually means arguing about the choice of words one uses.  For instance, I'd say "You used the word semantic wrong."

And people who aren't offered scholarships (most D-3 players) don't always choose to go to playoff-eligible schools over a school that they prefer for other reasons, e.g., academics.

[Jonny Utah]

JU--Ithaca scrimmages the Cornell varsity, right?   How does that typically go?

They usually play a real half (- full special teams) and its usually very close (1-2Tds).  When I played, Cornell had two great players (Chad Levit,

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and Seth Payne

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, both NFL players, and 1 or 2 olinemen.)  I was never impressed with Cornells skill players (besides Levit), and their LB's and d-backs werent that impressive either.  Their O-line was amazing, and Seth Payne might have been the biggest, best, most insane player I ever faced.  He made R-Kal Truluk

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(another NFL player I went against) look like a pop warner player.

And the Ithaca JV playes the Cornell JV in a real game.  And that goes back and forth too (Im assuming they still do.)  When I was a freshman we beat Cornell's and Colgate's JV by 2 touchdowns each time.

[Trin9-0]

Speaking of JV games... I've heard that Williams will play four JV games this year. Is this common for them? Since 2000 Trinity has only played 1 JV game a year and I believe has gone a few years without playing a JV game.

While I can see the cost/benefit of multiple JV games vs one or none, I would think that allowing younger players some game experience would only help in furthering the program as a whole.

Any thoughts? How many JV games do other NESCAC teams play?

[frank uible]

It has been common for quite a while. And much more importantly than building a program the junior players are given an opportunity to do more of something they like (i.e. to play in actual games).

[bant551]

Its great for the young players, but with a roster limit, it gets kind of annoying for upper classmen to have to plug in holes for the JV team on a Sunday after a game the day before.

I think I had to do it once junior year, and my recollection is that we also had a senior or two play in that game.

Sometimes just to have an extra lineman out there (or any other position), we'd dress an upperclassman just to be there in case of injury, but the younger guys play for experience.

[redtail]

Hamilton - Tufts on Sat @ Hamilton - does Hamilton have a chance to keep it close and put points on the board latefor the win?

[Trin9-0]

Hamilton - Tufts on Sat @ Hamilton - does Hamilton have a chance to keep it close and put points on the board late for the win?

I think this is the best NESCAC match up in week 1. Tufts traditionally starts out strong (due mostly to their soft early schedule) but they're not great on the road (4-8 since 2004). I think Hamilton's defense will hold the Jumbos to 10 or 14 points but the Conts offense will struggle against Tufts.

Tufts        10
Hamilton    7

Midd and Wes always seem to play a close game. The Panthers have some questions on offense and the Cards are a much improved team playing at home. However, I think Middlebury's defense will be too tough and the road team will escape with a scare from the Cardinals.

Middlebury  17
Wesleyan    14

Williams should have no trouble on the road at Bowdoin though the Bears could keep it close. The only reason I say that is because I would expect the Ephs to be very vanilla so as not to show too much of their arsenal before their big game with Trinity next week.

Williams    28
Bowdoin    10

If the Bobcats have any hope of becoming the '05 Polar Bears then an upset win at home vs Amherst would be a great way to start. However, I doubt think they'll have enough offense against the Jeffs.

Amherst  21
Bates        7

Despite what many think Trinity has some question marks heading into '07. They are thin in the secondary, they've have had some big injuries and they're special teams are suspect. Colby almost always plays Trin tough and if Bashaw can get rolling at home then the Mules could make this one interesting. Though in the end, I think the Bantams will be able to overpower the Mules with their dominant offensive and defensive line.

Trinity    27
Colby      7

[Col. Partridge]

Captain's Week One Picks.  Home team in CAPS.

Favorite   Spread   Underdog

Tufts             7.5   HAMILTON

Williams          20    BOWDOIN

WESLEYAN     1.5   Middlebury

Trinity           16.5     COLBY

Amherst        13.5      BATES

I don't have much to support any of these picks beyond past performance and my hope that Wesleyan is better than last year.  Things I uncovered in the last 10 minutes:  Reggie Fuggett is still on the Cincinnati roster, and he is not on the Amherst roster.  Also, there is no one on the Amherst roster from the great state of West Virginia, so I'm not sure what happened to that kid, either.

EDIT:  Although his personal page is still up on Cincy's website, Fuggett is not on the Bearcats' roster.  But he is mentioned in the Bates game preview on the Amherst web site.

[nescac1]

A news article on Williams notes that Lucey has an injured foot.  Sounds like he is "probable."  If he can't go, Williams may be in for a tough time, considering both back-ups are frosh.   

As for Amherst, it looks like they don't have any frosh at all up on their roster, which is why those guys aren't listed. 

[Col. Partridge]

Ah yes-that makes sense.   What are they waiting for?  I assume the rosters had to be finalized at least at the beginning of this week.