WBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

gacbacker · December 06, 2005, 12:26:30 AM

Willy, your sister indeed had her best game of the season. More than doubled her point total for the year in one game! Final score was a lot closer than it really was...the Gusties led by 11 at one point with about 1:45 left...Petrich hit a three at the buzzer to make it a four point game.

Good minutes by all of the Gustie bench players...Peterson and Luhmann gave some good minutes and freshman Emily Nelson provided a little spark in her first varsity minutes.

First place could be on the line Wednesday...St. Ben's plays Bethel and the Gusties play the Tommies.

Willy I assume you will be there on Wednesday with the big guys tilt?

Willy Wonka · December 06, 2005, 12:54:57 AM

gacbacker - Assuming my car gets fixed tomorrow, I'll be there with bells on. I hoping to drag along a few others to the girls game.

This board is suspiciously quiet tonight. Could that be because the Knights beat the Bennies tonight 58-57? Maybe we could get some details on how the parent's party at The Reub went afterwards, eh guys? Who spoke and for how long?

Seriously though, it looks like Anna outplayed Vig, but the Carls story makes it seem like Vig had a couple of crucial plays in winning time. Is Anna's chink free throw shooting? 5-10 in a 1-point game is a heart breaker.

tommycorn · December 06, 2005, 01:05:21 AM

Tommies had a rough night tonight, shooting and taking care of the ball. They lost to Hamline by c7 points. They did have a 3 point lead at the 5 minute mark but couldn't make crucial free throws down the strectch. Wirtz struggled shooting, and score a big goose egg. It's an important game in the young teams development.

I can't believe CSB went down. How does Carleton continue to do it? Tammy should be coach of the year every year, I swear.

tommycorn · December 06, 2005, 01:09:40 AM

anyone ever heard the expression: live by the three, die by the three, it's not just a theory:

Tommies = 1-13 3pts.

renaisscoach · December 06, 2005, 10:39:30 AM

Sheeeeesh--remember when this site was easy to navigate. Need a gps for this old geezer.

Haven't been keeping up on my b.s. on here as the school doubled my class size to save $$$$. I'm overworked and under se-------never mind.

Listened to moments last night and the CSB-Carleton match-up was as most are. I did a camp with Tammy this summer and knew she was high on her first year players and guess it's proving true. Blazer fans--clue me in on the game without tooooooo much biasness:) Hope to make games after Christmas but too much a goin' right now.

RC

Collegeville Magic · December 06, 2005, 12:08:51 PM

Well guys, Tammy had very little to do with this one. Ugly ball on both ends of the court most of the night.

Here's the difference:

CSB - 12 for 30 from the free throw line in a 1 point loss.

Yes, Carleton was only 9 for 17, but the Blazers got to the line and didn't get the job done.

Oken-Berg is the new Shaq of the MIAC. Big, dangerous inside, but send her to the line all you want.

renaisscoach · December 06, 2005, 12:29:22 PM

Ain't gonna win many with f/t like that; either team. Missed being there as I always enjoy visiting with Coach D. Any of you Bennies see him, give him a hello from me.

RC

blazerball · December 06, 2005, 06:58:38 PM

I was down on Northfield for the Carleton-CSB game last night. There is not much to analyze - nothing to compare - nothing to debate. CSB lost this game at the line. They went 12-30 from the line and, even though I love my Blazers, I must admit that you should not win a game if you miss 18 free throws.

While Carleton is a decent team - they are not the Carleton teams of the past few years. CSB had countless opportunities but missed too many ft's and had too many costly turnovers that were basically self-inflicted and not the result of any form of stifling defense.

Of course, I am not taking anything away from the Knights - they played hard and deserved the win. Congrats to them. I definitely look forward to the rematch in Claire Lynch.

Vig is a great player but Heikenen had the better of the play with 24 points and 9 boards. But, I'm sure Anna would trade spots with Vig since the Knights got the win. Unfortunately for CSB, Heikenen got no significant help from her teammates and that was their downfall. In their two 1 point losses that seems to be the theme ---- all Anna and no help means a CSB loss...

One small little thing observed at the end of the game. After the horn sounded ending the game, Isler from Carleton wheeled around, pointed directly at the CSB bench, and screamed "yeahhhhhhh!" I'm sure she was excited and caught up in the moment but I cannot remember another player from a MIAC team in the past doing something like that to their opponents. Maybe I've missed something. Hopefully, it was youthful exuberance instead of poor sportsmanship but it was rather tacky at the end of a hard-fought game.

CM --- About Oken-Berg -- she is definitely no Shaq in terms of size but she and Shaq could have a brick laying contest from the line. Of course, CSB built their share of houses with their bricks from the stripe last night so I can't say too much!

blazerball · December 06, 2005, 07:02:51 PM

The best player in the MIAC up to this point in the season is clearly Anna Heikenen --- she is averaging well over 20 points a game and almost 10 boards. She is doing it all for the Blazers.

Vig is a great player but Heikenen seems to have elevated her game even further after her unbelievable season last year. We'll see how the rest of the season plays out...

gacbacker · December 06, 2005, 10:43:50 PM

Oh Blazerball get off the sportsmanship and tacky soap box (re: Isler). You know darn well that if I or anyone else on this board made a comment like that after the Blazers beat one of our teams you would have the "Sour Grapes" argument on here in a second.

Maybe Isler has some ill-feelings towards the Blazers because they are cheating this year by playing all of their home games at 7:30 instead of 5:45 like the rest of the conference. This gives the Blazers an unfair advantage in recruiting because it allows them to get all their recruits to their home games, where other teams might struggle with that due to the 5:45 start time.

I love that CSB and SJU claim they are one when it works out to their advantage, but then all of the sudden they are separate entities when it works out to their advantage.

blazerball · December 07, 2005, 12:53:09 AM

gacbacker,
I never said anything about the outcome of the game - at all! I give Carleton credit for the win. Did you even read my post ---- remember the part where I even said that since my team missed 18 free throws they did not deserve to win. How is that "sour grapes"? I was only making an observation of something I have never seen in an MIAC women's game after watching them for 15 years ---- I'm sure there was no real mean intent and she was caught up in the moment. It still does not change my opinion --- which I am allowed to have. You can have yours.

By the way, how dare you accuse me of sour grapes, etc. and then claim CSB is "cheating" because of their start times? I can't make an observation and give an opinion about what happens on the court without you jumping down my throat but you are allowed to call a school and a program "cheaters." WOW --- what an amazing double standard. Whatever.

Do you really think the MIAC would allow "cheating" by CSB? You do realize that the reason for the early starts is for men's-women's doubleheaders when they use the SAME gym. CSB does not have that problem --- there is no need for them to start at 5:45 because CSB does not SHARE a gym with SJU (a nice benefit to the arrangement between the schools).

Go ahead, believe that the MIAC is in league with CSB to give them some mysterious advantage -------hahaha...all the recruits will come our games-----hahahaha...none of them will go to GAC------hahahaha...our plan is working perfectly------hahahaha...dang it, gacbacker is so smart and has figured out our plan----noooooooooooooo!!!!!!

gacbacker · December 07, 2005, 01:27:48 AM

I'm not saying its a huge conspiracy, I'm just saying its unfair that CSB plays its games at 7:30. From what I've heard several head coaches in the conference agree and have voiced their displeasure.

tommycorn · December 07, 2005, 01:49:23 AM

i feel a little akward hear, but i'm going to go ahead and break the tension anyway,

i'm so excited for tomorrow night's show down gac/ust men's and women's. ust has not beaten the gusties in the past three seasons, it's about time to change that. and oh yeah, the guys game may be interesting a little too

Willy Wonka · December 07, 2005, 02:44:45 AM

blazerball - gacbacker didn't accuse you of sour grapes. He/she was simply saying that there is a good chance you would have pulled that out had, say, a Carleton poster complained after your team beat them. It's happened before. Shoot, I know I've complained after losses, so don't feel special. Bennies are just more fun to poke fun at

As for the "cheating" talk...I'm not sure what I think. gacbacker has a great point in the whole recruiting war. Any advantage is unfair when numerous schools are recruiting the same girls, especially when it's come about because of a league-wide ruling.

However...

CSB clearly has its own gym and facilities, just like St. Kates, and has no reason to play early unless it's a mandated rule. Both schools play their games at 7:30 on weekdays because no such ruling was made, which is fine by the book even if some (most?) don't think it's fair.

This is something that probably should have been addressed when this switch was decided, though I'm speaking from complete ignorance on whether it actually was. However, the foresight of this endeavor is terrible. It makes me think Irv is still too involved heavily in the workings of this league. Is his master plan to ruin not just Mac athletics but the entire conference?

Give me, OAS, PiperInsider and Big Shocker control of this league - with a couple cute secretaries, obviously - and we'd be much better off

LA RAMS · December 07, 2005, 08:55:31 AM

Another good round of games coming up tonight; hopefully I can get to one of them. I'd REALLY like to make the Carleton - Augsburg clash tonight which starts at 5:45 which is the reason for this post. I think the idea of womens/mens doubleheaders is sound - especially for weekend games (here, I would advocate the women's game starting at, say, 5 in the late afternoon with the men at 7:30 or whatever but that's another topic for another day). But the 5:45 starting time for the opener is just about one of the most ridiculous things this conference has come up with yet. By the time you get home from work and all and get yourself on the road where you then are likely to battle the rush hour traffic for God knows how long you're lucky if you can get to a site - depending on the location - before the 2nd half starts. At least that's what happened to me on Monday. Why not move the starting time back for these types of doubleheaders to, say, 6:30 which would give most people a chance to get to the site on time for tip-off (unless, of course, if you're Reggie Bush and you can get to here from there in practically no time flat which is what seemed to be the case when I was at the L.A. Coliseum last Saturday wearing powder blue and gold)?