WBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Collegeville Magic · January 05, 2006, 05:00:36 PM

OAS- Only the Tommie would celebrity-chase that shamelessly.

Congrats to the Scots, my bad.

That's actually what I meant to type, but I couldn't believe I was actually saying it, so my fingers didn't cooperate, and I started thinking that Hamline might have won a game. We all know that's a toss up on any given night anyway.

Willy Wonka · January 05, 2006, 08:06:17 PM

she_scores51 - I've been asked by an offended party to contest your statement about GAC parents. I wasn't there, but this is what I was informed:

(Disclaimer: All MIAC refs are bad, without exception)

All four Gustie big girls had two fouls at the half. One ref was making every call. Refs who were badly out of position (a few there have reffed extensively and/or played college ball) and making calls or waiting for the SMU coach to complain before blowing their whistle.

Now, these are all pretty standard practice for MIAC officials and I'm sure you've got a few examples going against SMU as well. However, the following two examples are horrendous examples of officiating.

1) A ref called a delayed and-1. The whistle was not in the offender refs mouth and everyone on the court had turned and taken a few steps to the other end of the court before the call was made.

2) The fouled 3-point shooter was a phantom call. The Gustie guard jumped at her with an arm up with clear space between her and the SMU player. The whistle was blown and the call made.

A few GAC parents are bad - I'll agree - but, from what I've been told, there were plenty of legitimate things to yell about last night.

she_scores51 · January 05, 2006, 11:57:01 PM

Willy,

Tell your offended party not to be offended. The same argument can be made for SMU parents I'm sure, or parents of any other player anywhere. They are clearly biased one way or another, and for good reason. Therefore, they are probably going to be more vocal than the average fan (myself, for example).

I recall both of these points you've brought up:

1. This was actually one of the moments that stood out in my mind. The ref's whistle clearly either fell out of his mouth or something else out of his control (whistle malfunction?) caused the whistle to not work at the right time because, for those watching, his hand went up in the air right away to signal the foul and the whistle came later. He reported the foul to the scorer's table and then immediately went over to the GAC bench to explain what happened. The ref and M. Haller were actually laughing about what happened. Meanwhile, certain GAC fans were still complaining about the late whistle (too busy complaining to be observing what actually appeared to happen).

2. I'm not going to argue this call, because I was surprised by it also. I chalked it up to "not having as good of a view as the ref". Who knows? Maybe there was some contact...

Basically, I agree with your "disclaimer" that all MIAC officials are pretty bad. Hence, the dominating ref making all the calls, out of position refs, etc. Sometimes though, you just have to sit back and accept the fact that they are bad and just watch the game. **A really easy time to do this is when your team is up by 20.**

peachbasket · January 06, 2006, 09:53:41 AM

CM - the bennie in the background looks a little ticked that Leinart picked the tommie.
WOW, Mac by 23, how bad is basketball in Cali? Way to go scots, I would have never guessed 2 wins.
I can't believe there would be discussion about poor officiating in the MIAC

The biggest complaint I would have with the refs is that they are getting paid to be that bad!
Good luck to all tomorrow, especially my Cobbers!

Willy Wonka · January 07, 2006, 04:58:38 PM

Ahlberg for MVP? Not after today's performance against the Gusties.

2-13 to finish with 7 points and 5 boards. The Gusties trailed by 1 at the half, but led by 20 late. After the early season complaints of no balance to start the year, it's nice to see nine players with 5 points or more today.

gacbacker - Is Sviggum still starting? Her minutes have been very limited of late. And who's Emily Nelson? She's averaged 10 and 4.5 the last two games off the bench after not getting off the bench to start the year. Who's time is she taking?

It seems like some people's promises are worth more than others, eh LA?

miacwatchmen · January 07, 2006, 05:22:51 PM

63-33 Blazers over SMu today. It was a one point game at the half. I guess the blazers woke up in the second half.

gacbacker · January 07, 2006, 07:03:44 PM

Great win for the Gusties and a bit of a demoralizing loss for Bethel today. The most impressive part of the victory was that they did it without Monahan for the last 10 minutes after she was run over by Cottner.

Emily Nelson is a difference maker...another player who can shoot, she plays great D and she pushes the ball up the floor on the dribble. Willy I would say she will take some minutes from both Boldt and Vadnais...give those two some longer rests and maybe they will have fresher legs in latter stages of the game.

Sviggum is still starting, but it appears Linbo has earned the majority of the minutes. Sviggum has been good as far as not turning the ball over, but so has Linbo and she gives the Gusties more offensively. Linbo was also very strong on the boards today with 5. Haller has also done a nice job lately of spotting Raymo a few minutes. She's not comfortable enough yet to get more than 8 minutes a game, but I like that Haller is giving her 5-8 a game.

Also it's great to have Consoer back...she gives great energy...also the best game of the season so far for Vicky Peterson.

Gusties COULD go into St. Joseph with a 7-2 record if they take care of business against St. Olaf and Augsburg.

renaisscoach · January 07, 2006, 08:19:46 PM

I had the pleasure of winding my way to Winona this p.m. to watch CSB and SMU. SMU did a good job of holding Heikenen down and the first half was close. The 2nd half CSB decided to start sending in a few from ouside and the game was over. I felt they continued to keep Anna ineffective but at the cost of the rest getting involved. SO-in reality-she was still effective.................

Enjoyed seeing my h.s. post player playing for SMU. Proves that players can excel in spite of what they have for coaching as a h.s. player.

Greatly enjoyed seeing and visiting briefly with Coach D. Tis what I love about sports-the great people I can claim as friends.

Also met the dad of a CSB player. Won't share whick player's dad but he too was pretty classy----I HATE TO ADMIT IT!!!!!

Happy New Year to all and travel with care.

RC

Collegeville Magic · January 07, 2006, 08:33:32 PM

How about the Blazers allowing only 11 points to the Cards in the second half?

Of course, most days that Macalester plays, the Scots are going to be the low point total. They dug up 24 in a "close" loss by 20 out in Cali.

RC- good to have you back, I hope the meds are working.

Still looking forward to a butting of heads in person, and if you're in the Twin Cities when my Blazers are here for a game, it'd be a pleasure to trade barbs.

Go Blazers!

LA RAMS · January 08, 2006, 12:23:54 AM

Surprisingly easy win for the Gusties against Bethel today and coming against a team that was touted to finish in the top three no less. Sounds like Mickey is spreading the wealth as much as possible and I have no problem with that. By the way, who is this Emily Nelson kid anyway? Sounds like she had a pretty awesome game today. Also, did Monahan get injured seriously? I sure hope not. You would have to figure now that GAC should be able to collect a couple of more "W's" with St. Olaf and Augsburg before they have to travel up to St. Joe. The only thing I would like to see is getting Boldt involved in the offensive mix a bit more rather than relying on 1-2 punch of Monahan/Vadnais. Willy, looks like I might have to make that trip out to some local's farmy armed with my trusty Remington 20 ga. sooner rather than later though I think I'll have to get a bottle of white to wash the bloody mess down my pie-hole.

Did get to catch Hamline's win over Augsburg today with the Auggies doing their usual second-half flameout. As expected, the MIAC refs stole the show with their normal level of horrendous officiating. The team that has really surprised me right now is Concordia. How they are doing what they are doing without Mandy is amazing when you think about what she brought to the table. Thank God the Knights had the day off today. They NEEDED a day off.

P.S.

Rumor has it that the jilted Bennie gal is now in the company of Drew Olson. What else is a girl supposed to do when she's been scorned by a Trojan?

peachbasket · January 09, 2006, 11:31:05 AM

Boy was I terrible in my picks for Saturday, just happy Mel and the Cobbers came up with the "W" at St. Kates!! Let's see what's in store for Wednesday...

1/11/2006
Augsburg @ Concordia - the long trip, coupled with my Cobbers coming together are too much for the Auggies! Mel dros in 20, and Annie gets 18. Cobbers by 16.
Bethel @ St. Thomas - I put a little faith in the "Christians" and they have come up short! UST played well Saturday without Gochnick, but the question is, can they sustain? This one will be interesting, Tommies get the edge at home, by 6
Hamline @ Saint Mary's - can Hamline solve their internal issues? Can they solve SMU's match-up zone? Mary's is tough at home, and if Luehmann can find her range, SMU should win by 7.
St. Olaf @ Gustavus - The Swede's vs the Norweg's. Olaf has struggled their last two, so now they should be ready for a good one. My upset special for Wed, the Ole's in a tight one, by 3.
Carleton @ St. Catherine - the Knights need to get on track, and it won't be easy in this gym. An extra day to prepare gives Carleton the edge, they win by 11.

Collegeville Magic · January 09, 2006, 02:21:35 PM

Wed picks:
Ugs @ Cobs -- CCM by 12, Ugs are still ugs
Royals @ Tommies -- Bethel by 5, losing Gotchnik catches up
Oles @ Gaccers -- GAC by 9, Olaf's bad side shows up
Carls @ Katies -- CSC by 2, because you never know...
CSB vs. CSB -- CSB wins this intra-squad scrimmage at the buzzer, when Ellie Boone, showing more signs of shaking off the rust from a semester abroad, sinks a half-court shot at the buzzer.

gacbacker · January 09, 2006, 10:18:53 PM

Geez Peach, give my squad some credit will you. We beat Carleton and Bethel, what else do you want us to do. Maybe its wishful thinking on your part that the Gustie will fall to Olaf since we're right on your team's heels?

People seem to forget that we have two of the best five players in the conference.

Willy Wonka · January 10, 2006, 03:10:35 AM

gacbacker - By the end of the year, I'm hoping to bring in Bootsy Collins to create a "Who Dey!" video

peachbasket · January 10, 2006, 11:23:37 PM

Yo GB,
Nothing personal, you just haven't won a "big one" this year. Bethel and Carleton are wins you have to have, I thought the Christians were for real, but they aren't. You win tomorrow in a convincing manner, I'll begin to believe. Now, your comment regarding 2 of the top 5, that might be a stretch, 2 of the top 10, I might accept. Hageman, Opdahl, Ewert, Vig, Heikenen, Keeley, Vadnais, Monahan, Ahlberg, Martin...that's a pretty solid top 10!