WBB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

blazerguy: Willy Wonka is right. That's standard operating procedure and Journalism 101. Even though your job is to promote your school as the SID, that doesn't relieve you from your obligation in reporting the facts in a manner consistent with other schools and other SIDs.

[blueangel]

L.A.Rams - you may be completely right!!!  Who knows?  At least it creates a bit more discussion.  Guess there does seems a great deal of parity this year.  It will be fun watching the remaining schedle as someone said, there can be a great deal of "mixing it up"

[blazerguy]

blazerguy: Willy Wonka is right. That's standard operating procedure and Journalism 101. Even though your job is to promote your school as the SID, that doesn't relieve you from your obligation in reporting the facts in a manner consistent with other schools and other SIDs.

I guess we are just going to have to disagree on this one. I think its whining, you think they are right. The data says you and they are wrong. Different schools do it different ways. How about some discussion about basketball on the court instead of crying about your player not getting mentioned in the headline. As I said, its one click away.

[Pat Coleman]

What data? Not the data that I posted.

You think it's whining because someone said something not-complimentary about your school. The neutral guy over here -- the journalist and former SID -- thinks differently.

Nobody said it had to be mentioned in the headline. But the facts should be mentioned in the body copy.

[blazerguy]

What data? Not the data that I posted.

You think it's whining because someone said something not-complimentary about your school. The neutral guy over here -- the journalist and former SID -- thinks differently.

Nobody said it had to be mentioned in the headline. But the facts should be mentioned in the body copy.

Pat, your own data showed not all schools do it the same. Thank you for taking the time to research. I think its whining, we differ. Of course I am biased, that doesn't make me wrong. One click away for those interested. As I said before, how about we discuss something on the court, like the horrible officiating this year, the lack of ethics in recruiting, the rise of MAC., the fall of UST, etc.. etc..

[Pat Coleman]

No, that's true -- it did show that most do it the right way, however. Having the box score one click away is not really something that I would applaud here, since that's also standard operating procedure and, frankly, automated by the ICS software.

[Willy Wonka]

What data? Not the data that I posted.

You think it's whining because someone said something not-complimentary about your school. The neutral guy over here -- the journalist and former SID -- thinks differently.

Nobody said it had to be mentioned in the headline. But the facts should be mentioned in the body copy.

Pat, your own data showed not all schools do it the same. Thank you for taking the time to research. I think its whining, we differ. Of course I am biased, that doesn't make me wrong. One click away for those interested. As I said before, how about we discuss something on the court, like the horrible officiating this year, the lack of ethics in recruiting, the rise of MAC., the fall of UST, etc.. etc..

You are really grasping at straws if you're trying to divert this conversation to the "fall" of UST. You do realize the Tommies have the exact same record at CSB, beat the Bennies on their home court in the first meeting and could move into second place with a win in Saturday's rematch?

If UST has fallen, which is a dubious claim at best, I'd be curious to hear your honest assessment of the Bennies...

[LA RAMS]

And especially now that UST has quietly reeled off 11 wins in last 13 games.  So, yes, definitely a big rematch this Saturday w/CSB over at Ganglehoff Center.

Caught a great game last night between Concordia and Macalester and the Scots finally showed that they can win a close one edging the Corn 84-81 to secure their first-ever MIAC playoff berth.

Honestly, it's hard to make heads or tails out of this conference the way things are shaping up.  Anybody can beat anybody.  As Michael Corleone would say, "No one is safe." 

[gacbacker]

Gusties can clinch a share of the conference title on Saturday with a win over Bethel combined with a St. Thomas win over St. Ben's.

Go Gusties and go Tommies!

It should also be noted that if the Gusties and Blazers end up in a tie for first place, the Blazers appear to own the tie-breaker at this time due to the fact that the Gusties have a loss to the 6th place team in Hamline, whereas the Blazers' "worst loss" is to St. Thomas or Concordia.

That of course could change, because the Blazers still have to play Hamline in St. Paul next week.

[blazerguy]

What data? Not the data that I posted.

You think it's whining because someone said something not-complimentary about your school. The neutral guy over here -- the journalist and former SID -- thinks differently.

Nobody said it had to be mentioned in the headline. But the facts should be mentioned in the body copy.

Pat, your own data showed not all schools do it the same. Thank you for taking the time to research. I think its whining, we differ. Of course I am biased, that doesn't make me wrong. One click away for those interested. As I said before, how about we discuss something on the court, like the horrible officiating this year, the lack of ethics in recruiting, the rise of MAC., the fall of UST, etc.. etc..

You are really grasping at straws if you're trying to divert this conversation to the "fall" of UST. You do realize the Tommies have the exact same record at CSB, beat the Bennies on their home court in the first meeting and could move into second place with a win in Saturday's rematch?

If UST has fallen, which is a dubious claim at best, I'd be curious to hear your honest assessment of the Bennies...

Divert the conversation ??, it's the first time I have ever been accused of that. Usually its that I try keeping on with the conversation/discussion/argument. I'd be happy to keep the discussion going if that's what you want. I still think its whining about a trivial matter. That's why it should be over, its not a big deal.    Good question and finally some basketball talk, my "fall" of UST refers to the outstanding talent they have accumulated this year. My god, two D2 transfers at key positions most teams struggle finding players. I felt they should have dominated right from the start of the season. That its even a race this year is the big surprise. Take umbrage to my description if you want but if they don't win it all this year the Sinner should be fired!! My honest assessment of the Blazers this year. Sure, but is that in contrast to my dishonest assessment to follow??? Anyway, I think the Blazers have accomplished alot with major problems going into the season. Lets start with losing our point guard, top forward, and center from last years team. Then our top transfer was kidnapped by UST and a top recruit got a D2 scholarship 2 weeks before school started. Not whining just facts. With the team left CSB has managed to be at or near the top all year. Guilland has developed to be a major force under the basket, Stifter has raised her game to All Conference consideration, Bolin took over the point and has played admirably and we have gotten positive minutes from, Dale, Hylla and Wilcox. Where will CSB end up, the next 3 games will tell but I give Durbin a ton of credit for his coaching job this year.

[gacbacker]

What's your evidence that your d2 transfer was "kidnapped" by Sinn and UST?

[blazerguy]

What's your evidence that your d2 transfer was "kidnapped" by Sinn and UST?

When a coach continues to recruit a player with the knowledge that the player has already committed, registered, announced and interviewed in the paper, to a rival school, I don't consider it ethical by the coach. I understand a "player" can change their mind, its the coach I have a problem with.

[gacbacker]

What I'm asking is what evidence do you have that Sinn did this? Did the player tell you personally? Did you witness Sinn talking to the player after she had enrolled at St. Ben's? Or is this pure speculation?

[blazerguy]

What I'm asking is what evidence do you have that Sinn did this? Did the player tell you personally? Did you witness Sinn talking to the player after she had enrolled at St. Ben's? Or is this pure speculation?

It happened just as i said, you may choose to believe or not.

[Willy Wonka]

What's your evidence that your d2 transfer was "kidnapped" by Sinn and UST?

When a coach continues to recruit a player with the knowledge that the player has already committed, registered, announced and interviewed in the paper, to a rival school, I don't consider it ethical by the coach. I understand a "player" can change their mind, its the coach I have a problem with.

While it's obviously not the same gender, this is the exact reason why the men's coaching staff at GAC doesn't publicly discuss recruits. Especially with the media, but they typically won't even tell alumni who has committed until the fall when said person actually shows up on campus. Believe it or not, the St. Cloud Times doesn't actually have the authority to determine where someone goes to school.

This isn't a scholarship system. There are no hard-and-fast commitments — and even those are easily changed, as the recent D1 signing date for football just illustrated. Student-athletes change their mind all the time. With the way Durbin over-recruits every year, I'd actually be surprised if he hasn't been on the other end of this situation a few times in his career. That's not a dig, it's just the reality of the situation.

But if you're really that upset about this and have some sort of proof about "tampering" and how UST broke the rules, I'd suggest you contact Sinn and/or the MIAC office. If it actually happened, I'm assuming that would have taken place already by people more in-the-know than you.

In the meantime, this all just sounds like sour grapes and takes away from discussion about the playoff race, which is what you were pining for in the first place...