BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

[yuckmonkey]

What could be very interesting in the UMHB/MC series is the fact that theres a chance only one game gets completed.

I was at the 2006 playoff series between McM(West 4 seed)? & MC(East 1 seed)? when they played on Friday and McM won and then it started raining, back and forth to the field on Saturday and Sunday but they did finish the series and it went to the third game.  I think they will do everything in their power to complete the series

[Ron Boerger]

The selection committee only has 23 letters in their alphabet.  The missing three are T, L and U.  You can bet your house that if the Bulldogs don't win the conference that they are going home.  This year it might be deserved that they go home if they don't win but there have been years where they should have been a shoe-in.  Nope.

13 losses (which TLU would have if they don't win the ASC tourney) will have that effect.   

A few years back, TLU was 37-6.....and your reasoning is?

My reasoning has nothing to do with the past, only the present.   Sorry you thought otherwise. 

[dp643]

I think Ralph is now on a roll after that explanation.

TLU hasnt been snubbed in recent history. And I dont count 7 years ago with only 3 Pool C bids being snubbed in recent history.

That being said, TLU wont get a Pool C this year either. Their only way in is to win the tournament.

[swbaseball3]

TLU doesn't deserve a look this year if they don't win it.  Absolutely agree but there is a LONG history that the selection committee looks the other way with respect to the ASC.  Any hopes of a bid for ANY TEAM outside the winner is a pipe dream.

That said, last year was an example with MC.  TLU has certainly been snubbed in past seasons.  That is my point.

[dp643]

in 2008 the ASC had:

Concordia   30-16
McMurry      29-19
UT Tyler       36-9
Ozarks         32-11
UMHB           28-12

Talk about Teams beating up on eachother. 6 of UMHB's losses were to the other 4 teams. 5 of UT Tylers losses were to the other 4 teams. 7 of Concordia's losses were to the other 4 teams (and 3 to Houston Baptist). 5 of Ozarks losses were to the other 4 teams listed.

McMurry won the conference tourney that year, but take away how tough it is going through the ASC, and you can make an argument for 2 Pool C bids out of the 4 that got nothing.

[CrashDavisD3]

The selection committee only has 23 letters in their alphabet.  The missing three are T, L and U.  You can bet your house that if the Bulldogs don't win the conference that they are going home.  This year it might be deserved that they go home if they don't win but there have been years where they should have been a shoe-in.  Nope.

There is a very easy reply to teams that are in Pool A...Be the Conference Champ. Win your conference tourney...

Win you chance on the field and do not leave it up to others to decide your fate....and dont blame them if you dont get there.WIN...

There are always teams that deserve Pool B and Pool C bids and dont get in

But every all of those teams had the opportunity to win it on the field and did not....Last year Pac Lu with 30+ win season was a Co-Champ in the NWC conference BUT LOST on the field in a 1 game playoff on the field with George Fox. This year they have the chance to win the NWC outright by beating Linfield 2 out of 3 this weekend. IF they dont win and dont get it maybe another 30+ win season with no playoffs

Because of the size and quality of teams in the ASC they should get 2 not 1 Pool A AQ but that is my viewpoint...Everyone knows at the start of the season what must be done to get to the regionals....

No matter what the number of teams are in Pool B and Pool C someone will always be unhappy that they stayed home and blame it on the committee's instead of the players and coaches on the field.

[golden_dome]

The selection committee only has 23 letters in their alphabet.  The missing three are T, L and U.  You can bet your house that if the Bulldogs don't win the conference that they are going home.  This year it might be deserved that they go home if they don't win but there have been years where they should have been a shoe-in.  Nope.

There is a very easy reply to teams that are in Pool A...Be the Conference Champ. Win your conference tourney...

Win you chance on the field and do not leave it up to others to decide your fate....and dont blame them if you dont get there.WIN...

There are always teams that deserve Pool B and Pool C bids and dont get in

But every all of those teams had the opportunity to win it on the field and did not....Last year Pac Lu with 30+ win season was a Co-Champ in the NWC conference BUT LOST on the field in a 1 game playoff on the field with George Fox. This year they have the chance to win the NWC outright by beating Linfield 2 out of 3 this weekend. IF they dont win and dont get it maybe another 30+ win season with no playoffs

Because of the size and quality of teams in the ASC they should get 2 not 1 Pool A AQ but that is my viewpoint...Everyone knows at the start of the season what must be done to get to the regionals....

No matter what the number of teams are in Pool B and Pool C someone will always be unhappy that they stayed home and blame it on the committee's instead of the players and coaches on the field.

That sounds good but you might as well have a tournament of conference champs if that were the case. Often the pool c teams more deserve selection because they have played great for 40 games, rather than catching fire one weekend.

I certainly understand what you are saying and players have to approach it this way, but I don't think there is anything wrong with questioning the selection process. It is usually the avenue in which improvements are made to the process.

[CrashDavisD3]

I really wished there was a way to have Pool B/C not be decided by committee

How do you suggest to improve the selections for how Pool B/C are selected.

There always will be someone that does not agree with the team the committee selected. I also scratch my head at times when some teams are included and not included

[Ralph Turner]

I really wished there was a way to have Pool B/C not be decided by committee

How do you suggest to improve the selections for how Pool B/C are selected.

There always will be someone that does not agree with the team the committee selected. I also scratch my head at times when some teams are included and not included

Yeah, and after one season of going with a computer program that generates the playoffs, we would be wanting the return to a "human-moderated" system that takes computer numbers and interprets them.    

The current ratio of 1 bid for every 6.5 teams puts the edge between Pool C and those who stay home at the right point to pressure everyone into playing great baseball at this time of the season.

[CrashDavisD3]

I really wished there was a way to have Pool B/C not be decided by committee

How do you suggest to improve the selections for how Pool B/C are selected.

There always will be someone that does not agree with the team the committee selected. I also scratch my head at times when some teams are included and not included

Yeah, and after one season of going with a computer program that generates the playoffs, we would be wanting the return to a "human-moderated" system that takes computer numbers and interprets them.    

The current ratio of 1 bid for every 6.5 teams puts the edge between Pool C and those who stay home at the right point to pressure everyone into playing great baseball at this time of the season.

Agreed...we already see the mess the BCS is with computers is....

To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer

[Just_Some_Guy]

TLU 7 - UTD 10 -- Top 6th

UTD made Orosey throw a lot of pitchers early. Couldn't tell if the slider wasn't as sharp as usual (watching online) or if the UTD hitters were just disciplined and staying off the outside slider off the plate. After the grand slam he had no control.

Orosey lifted in the 4th for Sean Madden.

5 runs on 6 hits in the bottom of the 6th off of a 2 run HR from Childress, 2 run double from Curtis and 1 RBI triple from Chris Green. UTD starter Prestridge just lifted.

UTD gets runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs in the top of the 7th and TLU gets out of it unscathed. Potentially turning into a good game...


UMHB 7 - MC 6 - Bot 7th - But MC threatening with the bases loaded.

MC:
Chase Herrin 3-3, 2 runs
Stuart Magee 2-3, 3 RBI

UMHB:
Joseph Villegas 2-3, 1 run
Andrew White 2-3, 1 runs, 2 RBI

JSG

[Ralph Turner]

McMurry at UTT tonight at 6pm.

[Ralph Turner]

Wow!  MC is getting to UMHB's Jared Hopper; 2 in the first; 3 in the 3rd!  MC leads 5-2

Seaman was tagged for 2 in the top of the first.

Thanks for the updates JSG!

[dp643]

5-4 going to bottom of 5.

Hopper looks to be falling behind batters. Hopefully he can start working ahead soon.

This game is huge because the weather is not looking promising for the next 2 days in Clinton.

[dp643]

7-6 UMHB top of 7

TLU down 10-7?? It was 10-2 last I saw. Did Orosey start?

Update: MC has bases loaded no outs in bottom of 7