BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

[dp643]

I must say UT Tyler has the best play by play announcer of anyone I have heard in the conference. Its night and day difference between the TLU announcer and the Tyler. Kudos to Tyler for a job well done in this regard.

[Ralph Turner]

All 4 visting teams won the openers!

[TexasBB]

Congrats to the Warhawks. I thought after the third walk with the bases loaded and only one out in the bottom fo the 9th Tyler had the game. But.....

Texas BB

[Ralph Turner]

I must say UT Tyler has the best play by play announcer of anyone I have heard in the conference. Its night and day difference between the TLU announcer and the Tyler. Kudos to Tyler for a job well done in this regard.

I don't know if Bill Mercer did the UT-Dallas game.

Old timers will remember him from the DFW Spurs baseball teams, the Dallas Cowboys, the Dallas Texans, Texas Rangers. Southwest Conference football, UNT sports, and of course, Dallas Sportatorium Wrestling.  At 85 years of age, he still can turn a good phrase.

[Ralph Turner]

CTX forces game #3 with a 19-9 win over LaCollege.

HSU 8-6 over MissCollege.  On to Game #3.

#2 East Texas-Dallas wins the DH 4-1 and 3-1 today and the series over #3 West TLU.

UTD to host the tourney next weekend.

[dp643]

CTX punches their ticket into the 2nd round. HSU and MC in extra innings in game three. HSU tied it on a two out error in the bottom of the 9th

[Ralph Turner]

CTX punches their ticket into the 2nd round. HSU and MC in extra innings in game three. HSU tied it on a two out error in the bottom of the 9th

MC and HSU going to the 12th tied at 7!

MC gets 2 unearned runs in the top of the 12th.
HSU gets 2 unearned runs in the bottom of the 12th, but MC gets out of bases loaded one-out jam.  HSU has a runner picked off 2B for the third out of the inning.

Going to the 13th...

MC scores 2 in the top of the 13th. Leading 10-9 with bases loaded, MC hits a SAC fly to CF. One runner scores, but the runner at second is thrown out at third, cf to ss to 3b.  MC leads 11-9.

Bases loaded, one out.  HSU scores on a BB.
Two outs, bases loaded. HSU scores on a passed ball.  Tied at 11 and going to the 14th.

Top of the 14th, MC gets no runs, 1 hits and 2 LOB.
Bottom of the 14th, runners on 1st and 2nd, HSU hits a double off the fence in deep left field.  Final HSU wins 12-11.

The West wins 3 of 4 series. 

[dp643]

So much for the West being weaker than the East. I guess HSU has to be the favorite next weekend.

[Ralph Turner]

So much for the West being weaker than the East. I guess HSU has to be the favorite next weekend.

But they were ASC-West Co-champs and were taken to extra innings twice by the ASC-East #4!

This is a wild conference!

[dp643]

I think Tylers record is merely inflated by scheduling a weaker schedule with mostly home games. That may have showed this weekend. It will be interesting to see if they get a Pool C.

[Ralph Turner]

Oshdude is a poster whose opinion and analysis I consider very carefully.  He makes some very good points about the Primary selection criteria and UTT's record.

They have no wins against regionally ranked teams, and the only possibility is UT-Dallas getting hot and winning the ASC.  UT-Dallas may have the ability to burst into the Regional Rankings with a sweep of the tourney. If so, then that would give UT-T a regionally ranked opponent, but they only went 1-2 against the Comets.  McMurry is not getting there, and UTT did not play HSU or ConcordiaTX.

Against teams in the top half of the ASC in the last 5 weeks of the season, UTT is only 7-6.

UTT finishes 31-6 in the West Region games.  My unsolicited opinion is that UTT needs to play some West Region teams in Arizona or southern California in February 2012.

With a #2 ranking in one of the stronger regions - I doubt it.  But they might sweat more than they otherwise would have!

I agree.  This will mean a second bid for the ASC.  The NCAA will love not having to fly one team to a Texas regional.  I expect to see Trinity (Texas), Texas-Tyler and the ASC champ all at McMurry.

I'm not ready to cede a bid to Tyler. Zero results against regionally ranked teams and an SOS well under .500 doesn't pass the smell test, even with the West Factor in SOS accounted for. That SOS is one of the worst in the region.

Curious to see how far Tyler tumbles in the rankings. I see scenarios where UTT is sixth or out completely in Week 2. It obviously depends on what happens at other tourneys, but I'm not liking Tyler's chances.

[forheavendial4999]

My east bias may be showing but I think that the west will be hard pressed to win any series this year.

Texas BB

Yep. Bias shown.

[forheavendial4999]

Playing Millsaps, Rhodes or Birmingham Southern would also be options. Doing a trip to Bama and playing Birmingham, Huntingdon and LaGrange would be good for their schedule. Playing Hendrix more than one game. Going to Rhodes and playing against Illinois Wesleyan and Marietta would help. They could schedule an out of conference date against Hardin-Simmons.

They have plenty of options. They don't even have as much excuse as some other Texas schools do since they're in east Texas.

Oshdude is a poster whose opinion and analysis I consider very carefully.  He makes some very good points about the Primary selection criteria and UTT's record.

They have no wins against regionally ranked teams, and the only possibility is UT-Dallas getting hot and winning the ASC.  UT-Dallas may have the ability to burst into the Regional Rankings with a sweep of the tourney. If so, then that would give UT-T a regionally ranked opponent, but they only went 1-2 against the Comets.  McMurry is not getting there, and UTT did not play HSU or ConcordiaTX.

Against teams in the top half of the ASC in the last 5 weeks of the season, UTT is only 7-6.

UTT finishes 31-6 in the West Region games.  My unsolicited opinion is that UTT needs to play some West Region teams in Arizona or southern California in February 2012.

With a #2 ranking in one of the stronger regions - I doubt it.  But they might sweat more than they otherwise would have!

I agree.  This will mean a second bid for the ASC.  The NCAA will love not having to fly one team to a Texas regional.  I expect to see Trinity (Texas), Texas-Tyler and the ASC champ all at McMurry.

I'm not ready to cede a bid to Tyler. Zero results against regionally ranked teams and an SOS well under .500 doesn't pass the smell test, even with the West Factor in SOS accounted for. That SOS is one of the worst in the region.

Curious to see how far Tyler tumbles in the rankings. I see scenarios where UTT is sixth or out completely in Week 2. It obviously depends on what happens at other tourneys, but I'm not liking Tyler's chances.

[Ralph Turner]

Playing Millsaps, Rhodes or Birmingham Southern would also be options. Doing a trip to Bama and playing Birmingham, Huntingdon and LaGrange would be good for their schedule. Playing Hendrix more than one game. Going to Rhodes and playing against Illinois Wesleyan and Marietta would help. They could schedule an out of conference date against Hardin-Simmons.

They have plenty of options. They don't even have as much excuse as some other Texas schools do since they're in east Texas.

Oshdude is a poster whose opinion and analysis I consider very carefully.  He makes some very good points about the Primary selection criteria and UTT's record.

They have no wins against regionally ranked teams, and the only possibility is UT-Dallas getting hot and winning the ASC.  UT-Dallas may have the ability to burst into the Regional Rankings with a sweep of the tourney. If so, then that would give UT-T a regionally ranked opponent, but they only went 1-2 against the Comets.  McMurry is not getting there, and UTT did not play HSU or ConcordiaTX.

Against teams in the top half of the ASC in the last 5 weeks of the season, UTT is only 7-6.

UTT finishes 31-6 in the West Region games.  My unsolicited opinion is that UTT needs to play some West Region teams in Arizona or southern California in February 2012.

With a #2 ranking in one of the stronger regions - I doubt it.  But they might sweat more than they otherwise would have!

I agree.  This will mean a second bid for the ASC.  The NCAA will love not having to fly one team to a Texas regional.  I expect to see Trinity (Texas), Texas-Tyler and the ASC champ all at McMurry.

I'm not ready to cede a bid to Tyler. Zero results against regionally ranked teams and an SOS well under .500 doesn't pass the smell test, even with the West Factor in SOS accounted for. That SOS is one of the worst in the region.

Curious to see how far Tyler tumbles in the rankings. I see scenarios where UTT is sixth or out completely in Week 2. It obviously depends on what happens at other tourneys, but I'm not liking Tyler's chances.

Thanks for posting on the ASC board.

Respectfully, UT-Tyler's in-region games can come from schools that are in:

(1) the ASC,
(2) the West Evaluation Region,
(3) Administrative Region #4 (the states of TX, OK, KS, MO, IL, WI and westward),
(4) and any other school within a 200 mile radius of Tyler, which is not applicable.

BSC, Hendrix, MIllsaps, Rhodes, etc., don't help them.

Playing games against CSS, the WIAC and the MIAC in the Metrodome, before the lid fell in, might have been another option for us teams in the ASC.  However, if I want to travel to play a game, I want to go to places like AZ to play SCIAC and NWC teams in February.  

McMurry has held home-and home 3-game series with Chapman for several years.  McMurry went to Chapman this year.

Teams don't like to schedule tough in-region games if there is a difference in the progress of the season.  Illinois Wesleyan doesn't mind playing non-in-region games for their #5 and #6 games in the season at Millsaps and Mississippi College in mid-March when it is game #20 and #21 for those MS teams, because the game is not "in-region".

[dp643]

Whether UT Tyler was overrated or not, you have to give Mad props to McMurry for going in there and taking it to them. Myself and probably everyone in Division 3 thought they had no chance of going in there and taking the series, much less winning in 2. I would love to see them make a deep run or even win the whole thing.

They did the exact polar opposite of what Tyler did. Look at their non conference schedule and discretionary scheduling compared to Tyler. It was impressive to say the least, and I still think it played a role in determining the outcome of that series.