BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

Started by Pat Coleman, December 29, 2005, 12:08:01 AM

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dbat

Sorry about those predictions. For some reason I was looking at the site ascsports.org on Sunday and they showed the standings at CTX, TLU, McMurry, and HSU. Should have done my homework. I will try and redo this here:

CTX over LC in 2 games
TLU over MC in 2 games
HSU over UTT in 3 games (I still just have feeling UTT will have some hickups this post season)
UTD over MC in 3 (sorry Ralph but UTD is hot right now)

Ralph Turner

Quote from: dbat on April 24, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
Sorry about those predictions. For some reason I was looking at the site ascsports.org on Sunday and they showed the standings at CTX, TLU, McMurry, and HSU. Should have done my homework. I will try and redo this here:

CTX over LC in 2 games
TLU over MC in 2 games
HSU over UTT in 3 games (I still just have feeling UTT will have some hickups this post season)
UTD over MC in 3 (sorry Ralph but UTD is hot right now)
And they beat us 1806 in a mid-week game earlier this month.

TexasBB

I think that the top 2 teams from each division advance. There is not as much parity this year and I don't see any upsets. So all the home teams will move on to the double elimination round. CTX is in the drivers seat. It is their tournament to lose.

TexasBB

dp643

It appears umhb will be searching for a new coach as coach Dunaway has "resigned". One swing of the bat and umhb is in third place. Guess some in upper management must not know the game enough to know how close he was. It will be interesting to see who replaces him.

TexasBB

QuoteIt appears umhb will be searching for a new coach as coach Dunaway has "resigned". One swing of the bat and umhb is in third place. Guess some in upper management must not know the game enough to know how close he was. It will be interesting to see who replaces him.

UMHB beat UTT in a long extra inning game just two weeks ago in Tyler. That is too bad, as you said the team was very close to making the playoffs.

Texas BB

Ralph Turner

Quote from: dp643 on April 25, 2012, 10:49:39 PM
It appears umhb will be searching for a new coach as coach Dunaway has "resigned". One swing of the bat and umhb is in third place. Guess some in upper management must not know the game enough to know how close he was. It will be interesting to see who replaces him.
My thought is that UMHB is preparing to move to another level.

I don't know Coach Dunaway, but this outsider would call attention to what else is happening.

Look at what they did in women's hoops!  Coach Lisa Curliss-Taylor who was a winner at ETBU.

What calibre are Coach Fred and Coach DeWeese?

What about golf?  Coach Rodeffer and Coach Kirby!

With McMurry and TLU leaving, the ASC is a whole new conference.

TexasBB

QuoteMy thought is that UMHB is preparing to move to another level.

Ralph,

Are you suggesting another school is planning to leave the ASC?

TexasBB

Ralph Turner

Quote from: TexasBB on April 25, 2012, 11:03:02 PM
QuoteMy thought is that UMHB is preparing to move to another level.

Ralph,

Are you suggesting another school is planning to leave the ASC?

TexasBB
I have heard UMHB allude to the fact that they want to be the Mount Union of D-III.

That degree of excellence appears to be the goal that they can quickly attain.

They have one of the largest enrollments in the conference. Their capital spending on facilities has been greater than almost every other school.

They have to determine what size and what focus that they want their athletic department to be.

Were they not D-II in the late 1990's? (I need some help on that. Dual NAIA/provisional D-II?  Heart of Texas Conference?)


St Mary's web site
Quote1995

The women's basketball team competes in its first-ever NAIA National Tournament. The volleyball and men's basketball team along with two tennis players also qualify for their national tournaments.

For the third time in four years the baseball team extends the school wins record with a 46-14 season and a NAIA College World Series appearance.

St. Mary's and the rest of the Heart of Texas Conference are granted provisional membership in the NCAA Division II. The HOTC teams continue to play as NAIA teams pending completion of the transition to NCAA affiliation and are subject to both organizations' rules.

1999

The groundbreaking ceremony is held for the Alumni Athletics & Convocation Center during Homcoming Weekend.

The Rattler baseball and softball teams both advance to the NAIA Southwest regionals.

After 12 seasons the Heart of Texas Conference comes to an end as its members leave the NAIA for the NCAA. At its peak, the HOTC was comprised of nine institutions. St. Mary's and three other schools became NCAA Division II affiliates as the other five joined the NCAA's Division III.

St. Mary's joins Division II's newest conference, the Heartland Conference. The Rattlers are joined by former HOTC foes St. Edward's University, Texas Wesleyan University, and the University of the Incarnate Word and by new rivals Drury College, Lincoln University and Rockhurst University. 

TexasBB

Ralph,

The info you quoted from 1995 etc is for St. Mary's, a Catholic College in San Antonio. St Mary's is in the Heartland Conference in baseball. University of Mary Hardin-Baylor is a Babtist school that was never in the Hearland Conference to the best of my knowledge.

Texas BB


dp643

If that is the case Ralph then I question the timing. Dunaway was named interim coach last year and was retained. The team improved from his first year and like I said earlier, was one swing of the bat from 3rd place. If expectations are that high, then why retain him after his first season. If they had the confidence in him after year one, then more than one season should be allowed to show performance, especially when he improved after his first season. None of this makes any sense.

TexasBB

QuoteIf that is the case Ralph then I question the timing. Dunaway was named interim coach last year and was retained. The team improved from his first year and like I said earlier, was one swing of the bat from 3rd place. If expectations are that high, then why retain him after his first season. If they had the confidence in him after year one, then more than one season should be allowed to show performance, especially when he improved after his first season. None of this makes any sense.

Replacing a coach is often due to factors that have nothing to do with wins and losses. Example - Mike Leach at Texas Tech. It could be that the coach simply had a personality conflict with the AD or other administrative personell. Who knows, but for whatever the reason they are making the change. I just hope that he lands on his feet somewhere.

TexasBB

BigPoppa

True... I was let go from a head coaching job after a "local legend" made it known to the school that he would be open to talking about the position "should it become available." I actually met all of my performace requirements including wins and general athletic fund-raising initiatives, but was told I was no longer needed when a "name" came calling.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

dp643

It has everything to do with wins and losses. Ralph is correct. Apparently the higher ups in administration expected UMHB to play like the new York Yankees. Pretty disheartening considering the whole season plays out differently with one swing of the bat.

Ralph Turner

#3313
Two Three "upsets" so far...

McMurry 2, at UTD 0

Mississippi College 5, at TLU 3

LaCollege 8, at CTX 5.

and

at UTT 10, HSU 0 (7 innings)

BigPoppa

Someone once told me that "there are no such things as upsets in the post season."
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.