BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

McMurry sweeps UOz, 5-1 and 9-4.

[HAMBONE]

o ya there are only 44 players in the system from d-3 baseball and out of those 44 only 6 are on major league rosters....scouts would rather pass on selecting a pitcher come out of D-3 baseball and go with kids out of High School because of how raw they are and they dont want players going to D1 schools becuase of how the coaches can sometimes mess things up, to much pitching, teach them things that dont want to be taught, another thing is a scout would look at looking at D3 players is are they even developed in the Mental side of the game, will the be able to keep pitching even when getting hitting, can they handle the pressure of having to pitch every pitch and not take a pitch off....there are so many variables that make it hard for D3 players to be drafted....its like the lowest of lowest forms of competition in colligate baseball below that of NAIA as well so bascially D-4....its hard to waste a draft pick on something you are not sure how long they will last or develop and plus age comes into play as well its very rare for player to picked after there junior year in d3 and most are picked after senior year making them about 22-23 or older in some cases so they dont have much time to a prospect and a being looked at like they could be on a major league team in 2-3 years

You are retarded.  Please proofread your posts.  Most of us do not speak ebonics.  Your outrageous perspective on the game is 2nd to none.  Please do us all a favor and speak in complete sentences and use proper grammar.  If you wish to speak in fragments, then please use bullet points. 

[Ralph Turner]

o ya there are only 44 players in the system from d-3 baseball and out of those 44 only 6 are on major league rosters....scouts would rather pass on selecting a pitcher come out of D-3 baseball and go with kids out of High School because of how raw they are and they dont want players going to D1 schools becuase of how the coaches can sometimes mess things up, to much pitching, teach them things that dont want to be taught, another thing is a scout would look at looking at D3 players is are they even developed in the Mental side of the game, will the be able to keep pitching even when getting hitting, can they handle the pressure of having to pitch every pitch and not take a pitch off....there are so many variables that make it hard for D3 players to be drafted....its like the lowest of lowest forms of competition in colligate baseball below that of NAIA as well so bascially D-4....its hard to waste a draft pick on something you are not sure how long they will last or develop and plus age comes into play as well its very rare for player to picked after there junior year in d3 and most are picked after senior year making them about 22-23 or older in some cases so they dont have much time to a prospect and a being looked at like they could be on a major league team in 2-3 years

You are retarded.  Please proofread your posts.  Most of us do not speak ebonics.  Your outrageous perspective on the game is 2nd to none.  Please do us all a favor and speak in complete sentences and use proper grammar.  If you wish to speak in fragments, then please use bullet points. 

Fortunately, he has left!

(Or Pat pulled his privileges in the time that I read all that has transpired.)

Really immature!

[Just_Some_Guy]

Ralph,

Great weekend McMurry. I thought they might drop to 3rd in the ASC with the loss of some of the big guns in the middle of their line-up, but they swept what I still think will be the 2nd place team in the East.

In other news UT Dallas completes the sweep of TLU after rallying from big deficits twice on Saturday to take 14-13 and 10-9 victories.

In the first game of the double header. UTD rallies for an 11 run 7th after the first two hitters of the inning go down swinging. They were down 13-3 going into the inning. DH Randy Lorber was 3-3 with 2 runs scored and 3 RBI, and C Adam Hudec (who led the charge Friday) was 2-4 with 2 runs and 3 RBI.

For TLU Kyle Harvey was 2-4 w/ 2 runs and 4 RBI (Grandslam), and Jeremy Macklin went 3-4 w/ 3 runs and 2 RBI.

In the second game, Harvey and Macklin stayed hot respectively, but CF Neal Gordon and LF Jared Smith contributed 3 RBIs each as UTD Dallas prevailed 10-9 in another slugfest.

The bright side for TLU who falls to 6-5 is that CF Kyle Harvey continues playing like an All American and went 7-13 with 5 runs scored, 7 RBI, 2 HR, and a stolen base.



JSG

[Blackcat00]

Hambone you pretty much owned him. Good stuff

[mcmguy19]

McMurry sweeps UOz, 5-1 and 9-4.

Well McM did do better then I first thought, I took 2 of 3 but they got the sweep.  I know that McM does have alot of youth and are playing like jr's and sr's.  In that we will see how they can handle there home schedule this season playing a good portion of there games this weekend...on that part of youth Mullins and Thompson are playing at a very high level right now.  We will see how that plays out for McM as they get closer to ASC West Play. 

[HAMBONE]

Hambone you pretty much owned him. Good stuff

Blackcat you've been around this game long enough to know how important kharma and the baseball gods are.  He will undoubtedly get caught slippin at some point if he always treats the game like this.  Remember the part on 'Major League' when Harris drinks Serrano's rum and says "up your butt Joboo?"  Then he got smoked with bat!  Well I dont believe in Joboo, but thats not the point...the point is thats what Serrano believed in and he didnt respect it...

It might be a "bad hop" tomorrow at practice; a foul ball @ a Cub's game he takes his girlfriend to in 3 years; or a freak pitching machine accident at the put-put course trying to dominate "Very-Fast" for his son someday ... but it will catch up with him...I just hope he remembers this very moment when it does happen so he doesnt find some lame excuse why the world is out to get him...

toodles

[Dawgsdad]

Ralph,

Great weekend McMurry. I thought they might drop to 3rd in the ASC with the loss of some of the big guns in the middle of their line-up, but they swept what I still think will be the 2nd place team in the East.

In other news UT Dallas completes the sweep of TLU after rallying from big deficits twice on Saturday to take 14-13 and 10-9 victories.

In the first game of the double header. UTD rallies for an 11 run 7th after the first two hitters of the inning go down swinging. They were down 13-3 going into the inning. DH Randy Lorber was 3-3 with 2 runs scored and 3 RBI, and C Adam Hudec (who led the charge Friday) was 2-4 with 2 runs and 3 RBI.

For TLU Kyle Harvey was 2-4 w/ 2 runs and 4 RBI (Grandslam), and Jeremy Macklin went 3-4 w/ 3 runs and 2 RBI.

In the second game, Harvey and Macklin stayed hot respectively, but CF Neal Gordon and LF Jared Smith contributed 3 RBIs each as UTD Dallas prevailed 10-9 in another slugfest.

The bright side for TLU who falls to 6-5 is that CF Kyle Harvey continues playing like an All American and went 7-13 with 5 runs scored, 7 RBI, 2 HR, and a stolen base.



JSG

JSG,

Thanks for the bright spot commet however, these three games really showed me that this could be a long rollercoaster of a season if something doesn't get sorted out up the middle for TLU.

I don't know who kept the book on these games but whoever it was is very kind in to only record two errors over the last two games. There were several more than what shows up in the boxscores. There were two errors committed in the last inning of the second game both from the middle infield that cost TLU the win and Macklin the loss.

In game one of yesterday, pitching just left the area in that 11 run inning. Again, how you get 11 runs plated with two outs and not commit any errors is beyond me.  The umps weren't helpful either. calling a dropped fly ball to LF an out and a pop fly to third (Macklin) a dropped ball really didn't help our cause at all. Macklin caught that ball clean and then drop it on the exchanged after taking two steps beyond where it caught the ball.  Burnnett about blew a gasket on the umps...

Besides the cold, the wind was nonestop; blow in every direction it seem. Farr hit a ball that had the LF running in circles asking for help in finding it finally, the ump singled HR... Siniff, and McGill homered in addition to Harvey in the third game.

Dawgsdad

[infielddad]

JSG,

Thanks for the bright spot commet however, these three games really showed me that this could be a long rollercoaster of a season if something doesn't get sorted out up the middle for TLU.

I don't know who kept the book on these games but whoever it was is very kind in to only record two errors over the last two games. There were several more than what shows up in the boxscores. There were two errors committed in the last inning of the second game both from the middle infield that cost TLU the win and Macklin the loss.

In game one of yesterday, pitching just left the area in that 11 run inning. Again, how you get 11 runs plated with two outs and not commit any errors is beyond me.  The umps weren't helpful either. calling a dropped fly ball to LF an out and a pop fly to third (Macklin) a dropped ball really didn't help our cause at all. Macklin caught that ball clean and then drop it on the exchanged after taking two steps beyond where it caught the ball.  Burnnett about blew a gasket on the umps...

Besides the cold, the wind was nonestop; blow in every direction it seem. Farr hit a ball that had the LF running in circles asking for help in finding it finally, the ump singled HR... Siniff, and McGill homered in addition to Harvey in the third game.

Dawgsdad

Dawgsdad,


Baseball is a very hard game to play.
Build in the elements you are describing and it is even more challenging. 
Suggesting on a public message board that, for your son's team,  the play of the middle infielders is hurting the team,  scoring decisions on balls hit up the middle are not properly being reflected as an E vs. a H,  and proposing the coaches need to address these issues does not come across well, to me at least..
While I don't feel it is the position of a college parent to discuss those items with the college coaches, I know it is done at times.  To me, those are private conversations, not message board material, especially when you build it around scoring decisions where your son got an L and an E.

[Just_Some_Guy]

What throws up a red flag for me is that you've been very supportive of the middle infield all year long as evidenced by the quotes below:

Green has been exceptionally good this early part of the season. He's made some really tough plays and I expect that both will improve overall

Femath just had an off day - not sure what was up, but he was very solid over the weekend. Green is having a good start at SS and the work that he's been putting in with Macklin to his right is showing. Except for a short arm throw, he's been flawless.

I think Infielddad said it best, and I echo his sentiments. I know it's frustrating when your son gets dealt a loss (regardless of the situation), but I think the best approach is to realize that people don't make errors on purpose and stick behind the team.

Chances are those guys endured enough on the bus ride back to Seguin, but baseball has to be a game of short memories. Those guys just have to pick each other up, learn from this weekend, be thankful they don't count towards conference play and continue to grow as ball players.

When the pitcher's body language starts showing his frustration with his teammates, they get even more agitated. They're already beating themselves up, it happens, and a guy on the bump slapping his glove against his leg or slouching his shoulders certainly doesn't help.

[Mind you I'm not implying Jeremy did anything of those things, merely going on a 'baseball rant' here.]

I've been the culprit of some of those actions before, but I tried to make sure it only happened because of a lack of effort or mental lapse, and never for errors that sometimes happen. Even then, was it may place to say something? Probably not, probably best left for the coach to take care of, but I approached my teammates afterward and explained that the only reason I'd act like it because I know how good they were and I expected better from them.

I have also been on the receiving end of it, and I can assure you that the initial response is to get angry and defensive -- it makes it tougher to shake off the error if you're questioning yourself, not too mention it makes the culprit seem like he cares more about his efforts than the teams.

There's hundreds of ways to react, and if you're an emotional player chances are you've reacted that many different ways.

Some of the things that have worked best for me are to say something simple like, "Hey, it happens. It's on me, I'm sending the next one right back you." -- I've found that they don't usually take offense to this, provides a little relief, and makes them maintain their focus.

Another is to say nothing, and when you get back to the dugout just assure them, that it's not a big deal, it happens, and to get it back at the plate.

The point is to know your teammates enough to know how to react to these types of situations. Everybody has different dispositions, and need to be approached differently. There are guys I've played with you could say, "Damn, that ball hit that rock just right to miss your glove huh?" - They'd laugh and we'd go back to work.

I'm so far away from where I originally started now, but then, that's what I love about this game. It's so complex. So perfect.

JSG

[dp643]

"Thanks for the bright spot commet however, these three games really showed me that this could be a long rollercoaster of a season if something doesn't get sorted out up the middle for TLU.

I don't know who kept the book on these games but whoever it was is very kind in to only record two errors over the last two games. There were several more than what shows up in the boxscores. There were two errors committed in the last inning of the second game both from the middle infield that cost TLU the win and Macklin the loss. "


I dont know about you, but if I was a teammate of a player who's dad is writing this stuff on the message board about my play, I wouldnt be very happy about it. Especially when that Dad's son is leading the team in errors.

No disrespect intended, but you better hope for team chemistry's sake that the TLU players aren't reading this board.

[Dawgsdad]

Infielddad, JSC,

I feel I must apologize to this section of the board or the entire borad for that matter. I guess that 18 hours driving (from California (Marine Son Deployed to Iraq)) to get to these games and enduring the cold, wind and all, just got the better of me. I stll am very supportive of this team, but at the same time, I feel that sometimes things need to be said.

Baseball is indeed a rough game with many twists. Scoring is difficult enough, but is it wrong to want to see consistency in it? My own kid accepts such falls better than I do, I'll admit that, but I am only asking for consistency. I know I won't get it and that's part of the game... Emotions are very much part of this game and we all need to learn to control them. I should have rested more before commenting today. I accept the slaps from the two of you. I respect you both and agree that my own frustration got the better of me today.

There is a lot of season left and although I am frustrated with the middle infield, I know that there is chemistry within this group to pull through. I have not given up on them, it just wasn't an encouraging day. Hopefully, these guys will look within, along with the coaches and learn from this weekend. We should have won both games yesterday but didn't - that's what madding about this game as much as I love it. The question remains - can recovery happen - I believe it can; and it will.

Thank you both again for bringing me in line. I will measure my words and comments better going forward.

Dawgsdad

[yuckmonkey]

McMurry sweeps UOz, 5-1 and 9-4.

Well McM did do better then I first thought, I took 2 of 3 but they got the sweep.  I know that McM does have alot of youth and are playing like jr's and sr's.  In that we will see how they can handle there home schedule this season playing a good portion of there games this weekend...on that part of youth Mullins and Thompson are playing at a very high level right now.  We will see how that plays out for McM as they get closer to ASC West Play. 

[Blackcat00]

Ill have to disagree. The only thing not to mention on message boards are foul language , personal threats and name calling and putting personal info on here. Dawgs dad you have a good point and that stuff goes on in this conference that can get called out.

[infielddad]

Ill have to disagree. The only thing not to mention on message boards are foul language , personal threats and name calling and putting personal info on here. Dawgs dad you have a good point and that stuff goes on in this conference that can get called out.

Well, I have to disagree.  Pat Coleman, and the folks who put this message board together, have provided the terms of service and give us examples.
Whether posters are players, former players, parents, former parents or interested observers, I don't think Pat and those who created this board envisioned it would be just fine to be talking about internal team issues  or how  someone, who remains anonymous on this site, doesn't think certain players/positions are doing their job, etc.
My view is that the only ones who get to criticize for those types of issues are those who played the game at the highest level and didn't make errors, didn't strike out, made all the plays, made all the pitches and had the 0.00 ERA.
I truly love DIII baseball.  I have the greatest admiration for those who play it because they love the game and sacrifice so much to play it and play it well. 
I thought DawgsDad made a wonderful response.
I thank him for doing that.
More importantly, I thank his son for his service to our Country.
Let's keep this a fun board where we talk about baseball, the teams and the competition.  To start getting personal and think it is okay...No Thanks!
I hope Ralph and Pat can help us on this one, if we cannot work it out on our own.