BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

Blackcat00 · March 17, 2009, 12:51:01 PM

Looks like CTX needs someone to step up and lead this team. They are one of the most talented teams in the conference and something has t be going on. I know it doesnt help to not have a home field and play on the road every week. Not sure the ruling on the 5 inning game. I would think they ran out of pitching , but they have to play Trinity at Dell Diamond today.

tiger_fan2000 · March 17, 2009, 02:41:55 PM

That was two weeks ago.....TU is playing Cardinal Stritch tonight at EM Stevens.

Dawgsdad · March 17, 2009, 03:29:52 PM

Quote from: Blackcat00 on March 17, 2009, 12:51:01 PM
Looks like CTX needs someone to step up and lead this team. They are one of the most talented teams in the conference and something has t be going on. I know it doesnt help to not have a home field and play on the road every week. Not sure the ruling on the 5 inning game. I would think they ran out of pitching , but they have to play Trinity at Dell Diamond today.

CTX plays Southwestern at Dell Diamond today.

I'm not sure what's happening with CTX this year either, but I don't believe they are as stacked as many seem to think. Just my humble opinion.

Blackcat00 · March 17, 2009, 04:45:22 PM

Dawgsdad it seems anything outside TLU is subpar in your opinion. But thats my opinion.

Dawgsdad · March 17, 2009, 06:52:35 PM

Quote from: Blackcat00 on March 17, 2009, 04:45:22 PM
Dawgsdad it seems anything outside TLU is subpar in your opinion. But thats my opinion.

Blackcat00,

I have been far more critical concerning TLU than any other team within the ASC (and have been called out for expressing such within this board). I have seen CTX play more than just TLU, and stand by my opinion. For all the hype with regards to CTX and knowing their history, I would have expected more consistent play from them than what they have shown to date. I will leave it at that and do respect your opinion (rightly or wrongly).

Dawgsdad · March 17, 2009, 07:07:52 PM

Looks like CTX's troubles continues as they dropped another one to Southwestern 3-10.

http://athletics.concordia.edu/schedule.aspx?path=baseball&

No other details are available at my lowly level...

Ralph Turner · March 17, 2009, 07:35:50 PM

McMurry loses to Austin College 3-0!

The bats go silent!

http://baseball.austincollege.edu/

TexasBB · March 17, 2009, 09:52:59 PM

UTT beats UTD 8-6. The game was tied at 5 going into the bottom of the 8th. For the second day in a row the Patriots score big this time 3 runs in the bottom of the 8th going ahead 8-5. Ziegler picked up the win pitching 1 2/3rds innings giving up one run in the 9th but picked off the runner at second to end the game. Not without controversy as Schumate argued that Ziegler's move was a balk but received no sympathy from the umpire. The Comets out hit the Patriots 10-9 but UTT had no errors and the Comets had 2. UTT improves to 19-4.

Blackcat00 · March 17, 2009, 10:01:27 PM

Did you go to the CTX game and heckle in the first row?

Just_Some_Guy · March 17, 2009, 10:35:11 PM

Quote from: Blackcat00 on March 17, 2009, 12:51:01 PM
They are one of the most talented teams in the conference and something has t be going on.

I don't know that I agree with you Blackcat. Granted, I will admit that they were my pre-season champ to win the west (at a glance). I thought their 3 starters and and Szkotak, Riggles would be able to lead the way. Five guys is pretty good depth this year in the ASC.

The truth of the matter is that they just don't have enough offense, and mind you, that's merely my perception. I anticipated Cmerek, and Mercer would continue their ability to get on base in front of Williams, but they've been average. The Tornadoes are missing Jacobs in the middle as well. He did a great job getting on the sack last year. He set the tone for the entire offense, and Williams made sure he didn't stay there long.

The problem is (and maybe the field is the culprit), but Kinart's on pace to make as many errors as Jacobs did last year, and Beasley and Runnels have made their fair share of errors as well. Getting swept by HPU puts CTX in a tough spot.

They have two choices: nut up and go to work, or pack it in and call it a year.

JSG

dbat · March 18, 2009, 01:02:15 PM

Dawgsdad, I dont write much on here because I like to just read what everyone is doing in the conference and such. Since you have joined I have noticed one that you think you son is the save all for TLU (and thats fine he is your son and you should think that) and you seem to be so very critical of all the other players on the team. Doesn't your son have the most errors on the team? My son is a sophomore and doesn't play so I wouldnt know, but wouldn't the players on your sons team be pretty upset with you and your son for what you say on a public board about them? And I know if you were talking about my son like you have about the other players I wouldnt be very happy with you either. Just my opinion but I think you try to go way to indepth with why you think the boys are playing bad or so.

Blackcat00 · March 18, 2009, 04:24:08 PM

Amen

TexasBB · March 18, 2009, 11:41:39 PM

After reading the last two posts I decided to go back and read the last 8-10 posts by Dawgsdad. I quess I didn't get the impression that he was digging the other players on the TLU team. Maybee I didn't go back far enough. I did see one post where he admitted his son made two errors in the game and that the team had given up the opposing team to many opportunities. He also mentioned another player loosing the ball in the lights but that happens.

I do see there is tension between some of you guys. Just keep it friendly.

The one thing I will say about college ball is that these kids are not professionals. That is one of the biggest things you notice about the difference in the college game and the professional game. The pros for the most part do not commit errors. They make the game look so simple because they are that good. But like any baseball good defense and pitching win games. The teams with the lowest ERAs and best fielding percentage generally are the leaders. Good hitting cannot make up for poor defense and poor pitching.

dp643 · March 19, 2009, 11:19:01 AM

I have a feeling after this weekend the conference is going to get alot more jumbled up.

TexasBB · March 19, 2009, 11:47:24 PM

I went to the ASC website to look at team statistics. Some of what I saw did not suprise me some did. I concentrated on 6 stats. ERA, BA, Opposing BA and Fielding %, Runs Scored and Total Bases. Teams at the top of these catagories consistantly are likely to succeed. No surprise with a 19-4 record that UTT is the leader in every catagory. The surprise is that based on these stats UMHB has the best statistical defensive team in the West as it raked in the top 5 in every catogory and top 3 out 3 defensive catagories ERA, Opposing BA and Fielding %. Howerver in the offensive catagories the are only ranked in the top 5 in BA but are near the bottom in Total Bases and Runs scored. So they have a good defense and pitching but are way down in plating runs. When those catagories are added in TL makes the top 5 in 5 out of 6 catagories which puts them as the most balanced team in the West. However their ERA although in the top 5 is high at 5.13. UTT does not lead in every catagory as UTD leads in Slugging % and home runs but UTT also leads in RBIs.

Here is the list of the top 5 teams in the catagories I selected - these include all games since there have not been enough division games to look at.

BA ERA Fielding % Opposing BA Runs Scored Total Bases

UTT .345 UTT 3.50 UTT .966 UTT .249 UTT 216 UTT 424
ETBU .333 UMHB 4.94 Ozarks .964 UMHB .268 UTD 196 UTD 415
UTD .331 TL 5.13 UMHB .959 CTX .281 ETBU 183 ETBU 394
UMHB .330 CTX 5.26 MC .953 TL .283 Schriener 177 TL 374
MCM .318 LC 6.24 TL .953 MC .283 TL 173 MCM 360

Makes for an interesting analysis. Given UMHB defense and pitching and respectable team BA if they can figure out how to plate more runs they could be a West contender. UTT and UTD are the best in the east and TL appers statistially as born out by their overall recored to have an edge in the west.

Statistics and damn statistics.