BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

Ralph Turner · April 19, 2009, 03:44:24 PM

UTT 5-0 in the bottom on the 2nd. Patriots have jumped on the Choctaws' Seaman.

TexasBB · April 19, 2009, 05:16:44 PM

Patriots up 14-3 in the bottom of the 6th.

TexasBB · April 19, 2009, 05:21:42 PM

Holland worked 6 innings for the Patriots striking out 11 and walking only 2. The wind is blowing in Tyler there were a total of 6 home runs. Two by the Choctaws and 4 by the Patriots. Josh Long came in to pitch the 7th. UTT had 16 hits in the first game.

TexasBB · April 19, 2009, 05:29:47 PM

UMHB beats HPU 7-1 in the first game today.

TexasBB · April 19, 2009, 05:40:37 PM

UMHB is up 5-0 on HPU in the 3rd inning of the nightcap.

CUAfan · April 19, 2009, 05:41:39 PM

Quote from: hsusid on April 18, 2009, 10:50:06 PM
I would not want to face Concordia's two pitchers in a best of three.

Maybe not those two pitchers (and Whiteley's no slouch either), but I bet you'd like to see their hitters (other than Williams). Great staff this year, but the hitting just hasn't been there. Speaking of which, when was the last time someone other that Tyler had 2 starters with a K/9 over 10? Honest question.

I've been working on the numbers for this season. Maybe I'll stick some up after I can get the numbers from this week put into the spreadsheet.

Oh, I'd like everyone's input on an idea I had (but haven't had time to calculate for everyone yet). I don't like how pitchers are awarded wins and losses, but since it's so ingrained into baseball culture I figured I'd take a stab at finding a better way to do it. So, here it is.

Divide a pitcher's total innings pitched by the team's average game length in innings to get the pitcher's "effective games pitched." Use the league-average rate of scoring per inning to calculate how much run support the pitcher "should" have gotten in his innings pitched. Use that and the pitcher's actual runs allowed (or earned runs allowed, if one prefers) in the formula for pythagorean winning percentage. Use the winning percentage thus obtained to calculate how many of the effective games the pitcher should have won, if the lineup behind him was league average. The result is a won-loss record that is independent of the run support a pitcher gets AND that divides credit for wins/losses evenly across a pitching staff, based on how many of the team's innings everyone pitched.

dp643 · April 19, 2009, 06:27:49 PM

Any word on ctx schreiner today?

CUAfan · April 19, 2009, 06:43:41 PM

Just checked the conference site. It shows a pair of wins for CTX (11-4, 6-0). That puts CTX at 11-10 on the year...so if I'm thinking right they need UMHB to be swept to make the tourney...but I might not be thinking right.

Just_Some_Guy · April 19, 2009, 08:12:43 PM

Quote from: CUAfan on April 19, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
Speaking of which, when was the last time someone other that Tyler had 2 starters with a K/9 over 10? Honest question.

Not in the ASC, but without going back to look at it I'd be willing to bet that Bronson/Oates were pretty close last year.

JSG

TexasBB · April 19, 2009, 09:01:29 PM

MC is ahead 10-8 going to the bottom of the 8th. UTT's bullpen could not hold a 4-1 lead in the 5th. They have used Rozell and Wolf neither were effective.

TexasBB · April 19, 2009, 09:19:45 PM

Patriots get one back in the bottom of the 8th on 4 walks. They had the bases loaded with one out but could not score another run. MC up by one 10-9 going into the 9th.

tloc14 · April 19, 2009, 09:58:26 PM

MC wins game 2 by a score of 12-9. Seemed like Tyler's pitchers simply didnt have it in the 2nd game.

Tomorrow's game is for all the marbles!!!

Dawgsdad · April 19, 2009, 10:22:46 PM

Quote from: dp643 on April 19, 2009, 06:27:49 PM
Any word on ctx schreiner today?

CTX sweeps Schreiner. UMHB must win tomorrow to play again next week. UMHB loses and CTX becomes the fourth seed in the West.

Also with MC taking one form UTT in the nightcap, tomorrow will be a telling day in the ASC... Imagine a CTX UTT matchup in the first round...

Does anyone know who was on the bump for UTT in the nightcap today? I assume that Booher has the third game?

tloc14 · April 19, 2009, 10:49:45 PM

Booher started, but it looked like everyone on the staff threw some tonight.

From the looks of it, none of the pitchers could do much. I have no idea who is going to start tomorrows game.

Ralph Turner · April 20, 2009, 01:28:05 AM

Let's see if HPU can "cockroach" UMHB's season.

HPU knocked McMurry out of the #2 seed last week (if they want to take credit for it).

(To remember Darrell Royal's quote after TCU upset #1 Texas in 1961 by a 6-0 score, Cockroaches...it's not how much they eat. It's what they fall into and mess up.)