BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

swbaseball3 · April 18, 2010, 07:57:43 PM

TLU swept the DH today and yes, they will play thew final game tomorrow. At this rate, TLU has every tie breaker on every team ahead of them. If TLU wins tomorrow, they will only need to win one game next week at CTX to wrap up the West. Well, I guss it could be any combination of a win or a loss by both McM and HSU.

Now, if HSU wins tomorrow, TLU still has every tie breaker and they will just have to match the win total from HSU next week at McM.

Any way you cut it, TLU just put themselves squarely in the driver's seat, especially with HSU and McM playing next week.

BigTex · April 18, 2010, 08:22:02 PM

I agree with you swbaseball3. TLU pretty much has the west sealed up and can def seal the west with a win tomorrow because if that is so HSU or McM would have to sweep either one and then have help from Concordia to get first. They way I look at it the 4 teams going to the tourney are going to be TLU, HSU, McM, UMHB. The seed will depend on who wins this next weekend. Im not counting out SR but they would need help. Concordia blew there chances by losing the series to Schreiner. Going to be an interesting last weekend especially if UMHB can sweep HPU tmrw.

BigTex · April 18, 2010, 08:37:23 PM

As far as the east and what from I can get through the records Ozarks only hope to make the tourney is if they sweep ETBU and UTD takes the series from LC since both UTD and LC have the tie breaker over Ozarks. With that said I going to go with UTT, MC, UTD, LC in the tourney for the east. Not saying this is going to happen just going with what I think is logical for the east and west in my opinion.

Ralph Turner · April 18, 2010, 09:05:08 PM

HSU has a 1/2 game lead on McMurry for second place, with at game at TLU tomorrow. It will come down to the 3-game series at Driggers next week.

swbaseball3 · April 19, 2010, 07:45:02 AM

Many moons ago, my old man and I had a talk about the National League West standings. He is a "Loss Column" kind of guy. His theory was always who has the most losses and what is the head-to -head after that. So, with McM having 7 losses, for example, TLU doesn't have a 2 game lead on McM, they actually have a 2.5/3.0 game lead. The logic is simple. If they end up with the same record, TLU wins because of head-to-head.

That said, the ONLY chance McM has now is for TLU to lose 3 of their last four AND McM must sweep HSU. HSU has it a little easier IF they can beat TLU today but if TLU wins today, HSU must sweep McM AND TLU must get swept at CTX.

With Steinert, Orosey, Staggs being a combined 20-4, it's really hard to imagine that happening. Possible but a stretch.

dp643 · April 19, 2010, 08:13:32 AM

While we are talking about scenarios....if UMHB wins both at HPU today (big if)...and HSU loses to TLU...then there is a 3 way tie for 2nd place going into the last weekend with HSU owning the tiebreaker over UMHB, and UMHB owning the tiebreaker over MCM. It is still possible for UMHB to get as good as second place, or if they cant win 3 of their last 5 ballgames....be sitting at home in two weeks. Its going to be a fun finish.

Ralph Turner · April 19, 2010, 09:48:21 AM

Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 18, 2010, 09:05:08 PM
HSU has a 1/2 game lead on McMurry for second place, with at game at TLU tomorrow. It will come down to the 3-game series at Driggers next week.

My bad! The series at Driggers is for hosting the first round game and not having to drive to Clinton MS!

dp643 · April 19, 2010, 10:57:12 AM

There are scenarios that could play out where McMurry is in the same boat as UMHB. They can finish as high as second or completely miss the playoffs all together. If UMHB wins both today, gets swept by Sul Ross, and McMurry gets swept by HSU...that puts UMHB at 11-10, McMurry at 11-10 and Sul Ross at 12-9 with UMHB holding the tiebreaker over McMurry.

McMurry could just as easily get 4th as well if they lose the series to HSU 2 of 3. Alot is at stake today and these next two weekends.

swbaseball3 · April 19, 2010, 12:19:17 PM

Being a TLU guy, I didn't notice that it would be a 3-horse race if TLU wins and MHB wins. That would be flipping crazy and could very well be the case. Down the stretch gentlemen.

I think it is very well possible for MHB to win and one has to figure that TLU is very hungry to win today and really put a stranglehold on the west.

dp643 · April 19, 2010, 02:18:53 PM

UMHB up 4-0 going to bottom of 1st with HPU making two errors.

HSU up 2-0 going to bottom of 5 in Seguin.

Just_Some_Guy · April 19, 2010, 02:19:04 PM

Hardin Simmons 5 - Texas Lutheran 3

Clay Childress hit 2 HRs for TLU & accounted for all 3 RBIs. He and Nokelby (3 hits) combinted for 5 of the 6 Bulldog hits. Darwin Lucero had the 6th.

Not sure how HSU scored their runs.

Commentary was infinitely better today.

JSG

dp643 · April 19, 2010, 03:11:51 PM

9-1 UMHB going to bottom of 4

dp643 · April 19, 2010, 04:06:13 PM

UMHB wins 10-1 with one game left making the standings this (I believe)

TLU 12-6
HSU 12-6
McM 11-7
UMHB 10-7
SRSU 9-9

If UMHB can pull off the 3 game sweep and move to 11-7, it will pretty much mean everything is still in play next weekend for anyone to finish 1 through 5. TLU and HSU are clinched to be in the top 4 for sure though.

dp643 · April 19, 2010, 04:16:23 PM

For you tiebreaker guru's....

Say hypothetically UMHB wins game three today and takes 2 of 3 from SRSU putting that at 13-8. McMurry takes 2 of 3 from HSU and both McM and HSU finish 13-8 with HSU owning the tiebreaker over UMHB, UMHB owning over McM, and McM owning it over HSU. Common opponent records of 3-3 for all three teams. All went 1-2 vs TLU. What the heck happens then?

I believe it would go down to their records vs the highest finishing seed remaining? In this case most likely Sul Ross? That could put McMurry in 4th, UMHB in 3rd, and HSU in 2nd if Im not mistaken?

Ralph Turner · April 19, 2010, 04:51:14 PM

Quote from: dp643 on April 19, 2010, 04:16:23 PM
For you tiebreaker guru's....

Say hypothetically UMHB wins game three today and takes 2 of 3 from SRSU putting that at 13-8. McMurry takes 2 of 3 from HSU and both McM and HSU finish 13-8 with HSU owning the tiebreaker over UMHB, UMHB owning over McM, and McM owning it over HSU. Common opponent records of 3-3 for all three teams. All went 1-2 vs TLU. What the heck happens then?

I believe it would go down to their records vs the highest finishing seed remaining? In this case most likely Sul Ross? That could put McMurry in 4th, UMHB in 3rd, and HSU in 2nd if Im not mistaken?

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