BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

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dp643

So then if my scenario were to play out...McMurry could win 2 of 3 from HSU and still end up in 4th place?

hatbaseball

I suppose McMurry could mathematically still end up 1st with TLU winning no more than 1 and McM sweeping HSU, AND Sul Ross winning at least 1, but that's not going to happen.

Other than that wild scenario, the way see it right now, McMurry can finish 2nd by winning 2 of 3 from HSU and getting help from SRSU, or 4th (win 1 and they're locked).  If they go 0-3 they could still make it as 4th with but would need UMHB to win 2 of 3. 

I don't see any scenario's where MCM could end up 3rd at this point.
Baseball is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical.  (Yogi Berra)

dp643

TLU losing 2 of 3 to CTX is highly unlikely...but this has been a weird year, and I think anything can happen.

Live stats crapped out in the UMHB HPU game with UMHB having a 4-1 lead in the top of the 9th with 2 guys on and no outs and Villegas on deck.

dp643

UMHB wins 7-2.

So the standings now read:

TLU           12-6
HSU          12-6
UMHB        11-7
McMurry    11-7
SRSU         9-9

Sul Ross is now on life support, but still controls their own destiny to make the tournament. One loss next weekend and its over unless Mcmurry gets swept.

swbaseball3

The key to this coming weekend is pretty simple, McM plays HSU.  I agree that the odds on TLU losing 2 out of three at CTX is very slim.

Bottom line is McM or HSU has to go for the sweep.  There will be a lot of scoreboard watching this weekend.  My guess is Orosey puts the pressure on with a win on Friday and the race is on.

dp643

Congrats to Jarred Hopper for becoming UMHB's career leader in strikeouts (and is only a Junior). He is putting up some dang good numbers this year pretty quietly.

Just_Some_Guy

Quote from: dp643 on April 20, 2010, 10:43:21 AM
Congrats to Jarred Hopper for becoming UMHB's career leader in strikeouts (and is only a Junior). He is putting up some dang good numbers this year pretty quietly.

Agreed. He's probably been the best starting pitcher in conference play. TLU's duo of Orosey and Steinart, MC's Seamen, McM's Semchenko, and UTD's Cameron Brown have all been very solid as well.

JSG


swbaseball3

Not sure I can agree with the Hopper comment. Orosey has given up only 58 hits in 77 innings and he's punched out 91.  Add that to the fact that he's 9-1.  Even Seaman is giving up a hit per inning and he's not nearly the strikeout pitcher that Orosey is.

That said, Hooper has been fantastic.  I know he lost 3-2 to TLU in a great game.

dp643

That was freshman Chance Ryan that lost 3-2 against Orosey. Hopper beat Steinert in game 2.

JSG was referencing conference play. Theres a valid argument there because he has been the best starting pitcher stat wise in conference only games.

http://ascsports.org/custompages/baseball/2010/lgconf.htm

Just_Some_Guy

Quote from: dp643 on April 22, 2010, 10:22:23 AM

JSG was referencing conference play. Theres a valid argument there because he has been the best starting pitcher stat wise in conference only games.

http://ascsports.org/custompages/baseball/2010/lgconf.htm

Precisely. Without question I think Orosey is the best pitcher in the ASC, probably the West Region. If I had one game to win I'd want him on the bump, but in conference play you can make a really good case for Hopper being the better starter with one weekend left.

JSG


golden_dome

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Quote from: swbaseball3 on April 22, 2010, 12:40:06 AM
Not sure I can agree with the Hopper comment. Orosey has given up only 58 hits in 77 innings and he's punched out 91.  Add that to the fact that he's 9-1.  Even Seaman is giving up a hit per inning and he's not nearly the strikeout pitcher that Orosey is.

That said, Hooper has been fantastic.  I know he lost 3-2 to TLU in a great game.

Hopper's ERA is almost a full run better in ASC games (Hopper 4-1 1.88 / Orosey 4-1 2.70) which is significant. In Hopper's last three starts he's given up two earned runs on ten hits in 18 innings.  In Orosey's last three starts he has given up ten earned runs on 23 hits in 21 2/3 innings. That's not really fair to Orosey because Hopper has had an easier schedule the last few weeks,  but Hopper has been a little better in league play. Orosey is probably the regional pitcher of the year if it was picked today, but there is a good argument that Hopper has been the pitcher of the year in ASC West games.

Orosey does have better strikeout numbers overall than Seaman. But just for argument sake, they faced three common opponents this year in Schreiner, ETBU and UT-Tyler. In those starts:
Seaman  3-0, 3.00, 21 innings, 21 hits, 7 earned runs, 5 BB, 26 K's
Orosey   2-1, 2.78, 22 2/3 innings, 21 hits, 7 earned runs, 7 BB, 26 K's

They are all great pitchers, so you're splitting hairs to separate them. There is still a long way to go, but there could be a potential Orosey-Seaman matchup in a few weeks if both teams continue to play well.

dp643

Hopper and Seaman had an awesome duel last year in the first round of the conference tourney in that night game. Im sure you remember that game Chris.

golden_dome

Quote from: dp643 on April 22, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
Hopper and Seaman had an awesome duel last year in the first round of the conference tourney in that night game. Im sure you remember that game Chris.

MC won 3-2 and the score was 2-1 MC entering the ninth. UMHB tied it at 2-2 in the top of the inning, but MC won on a ball that everyone assumed was going to land on the covered batting cages, then the wind blew it fair and it landed in the corner. That's the only time I've seen Hopper and he was great. He gave up a 2-run bomb to Bo Bell in the 1st inning, then nothing. Struck out 10. Seaman struck out eight in eight innings.

I wouldn't want to see Hopper or Orosey early in the tournament, but I guess to win you have to beat somebody.

swbaseball3

All very fair statements by everyone.  Hopper has been fantastic.  That said, TLU has had a bullseye on it's back for the past 10 years so EVERY TEAM comes out gunning for them.  Not sure that Hopper has gotten that attention.

Tough to pick against an All-American who is 19-2 in his college career.  Remember, too, that Orosey is a sophomore while Seaman is a senior and Hooper a Junior...

One comment about Schrenier...maybe the worst umped game in college I have seen in 10 years.  The ump made Orosey literally put it on a tee for Schreiner.  Reminded me of playing at Univ of Texas and getting the lead.  That zone was about as big as a donut.

Ready for this....there is a very good chance that Seaman and Orosey could meet in the first game of the Conference Championship.  That would be big fun.

dp643

Umhb wins vs sul Ross 6-3. Any tlu updates?