BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

Started by Pat Coleman, December 29, 2005, 12:08:01 AM

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dp643

Depends on the batter and what you need him to do. Youd be nuts to say you wouldnt take Smith's production. The only stat Femath has on him is runs. Id be willing to bet if he played 10 more games he would have gotten more than 69 hits, dont you?

Both are very fine players dont get me wrong. But to state that Femath got robbed of first team is a little silly.

baseballfanatic

If you want to play the game of suppose: Suppose if Femath hadn't walked (24 times to 6 or HBP 10 to 0) he would have gotten more hits dont you think. Both players are good, but TLU should have had position players on the first team (Nokelby,Femath or Childress). In every league (baseball,football,etc.....) the first place team usually gets the most players in the first team (except the ASC).

Ralph Turner

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Quote from: baseballfanatic on May 11, 2010, 09:00:48 PM
I would rather have a player like Femath on my team (all confernce team) that gets 69 hits and scores 59 runs ,than someone that hits 11 homeruns and only scores 35 runs.
You just made hsusid's point.

Look who was able to bring Femath home to score, his teammates.   :)

Would McMurry have made the playoffs without Mullin? 

Walker for HSU?  What a horse!

Arrieta?  Sully had their best season in nearly a decade!

TLU has West Division rings!  Mullin, Walker and Arrieta would trade All-Division for those rings.

baseballfanatic

Without teammates that get on base your other teammates could not drive you in.

dp643

Its going to be hard to suppose up 30 points in batting average, 7 homeruns, and 20 RBIs with those walks.

baseballfanatic

Its still a joke that TLU did not get any position players on the first team. My opinion.

dp643

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: baseballfanatic on May 11, 2010, 09:00:48 PM
I would rather have a player like Femath on my team (all confernce team) that gets 69 hits and scores 59 runs ,than someone that hits 11 homeruns and only scores 35 runs.
You just made hsusid's point.

Look who was able to bring Femath home to score, his teammates.   :)

Would McMurry have made the playoffs without Mullin? 

Walker for HSU?  What a horse!

Arrieta?  Sully had their best season in nearly a decade!

TLU has West Division rings!  Mullin, Walker and Arrieta would trade All-Division for those rings.


You hit it right on Ralph. These kids would trade in their individual accolades to win the division or the conference any day of the week.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: dp643 on May 11, 2010, 10:46:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: baseballfanatic on May 11, 2010, 09:00:48 PM
I would rather have a player like Femath on my team (all confernce team) that gets 69 hits and scores 59 runs ,than someone that hits 11 homeruns and only scores 35 runs.
You just made hsusid's point.

Look who was able to bring Femath home to score, his teammates.   :)

Would McMurry have made the playoffs without Mullin? 

Walker for HSU?  What a horse!

Arrieta?  Sully had their best season in nearly a decade!

TLU has West Division rings!  Mullin, Walker and Arrieta would trade All-Division for those rings.


You hit it right on Ralph. These kids would trade in their individual accolades to win the division or the conference any day of the week.
IMHO, the "Division" is a "conference" and we just have a big huge "play-in tourney" between the East and the West! 

TLU has a Pool A bid if we are 2 conferences.

dp643

You're right Ralph. This also shows how solid 1 through 9 this TLU team was. No shame in that.

hsusid

One thing I would like to point out on this board that is totally unrelated to this discussion is the career of Regan Dixon. He became the first player in ASC history to have a better than .400 average for his career. He hit .403 in his four years breaking the old mark of Brett Rosen of UTD. Most people don't think of Regan as an average guy but his final career numbers are all HSU records.

Highest batting avg.: (.403)
Highest slugging pct.: (.748)
Highest on base pct.: (.484)
Most home runs: (34)

He was an All-American last year and will probably be again this year.

dp643

Are you sure he is the only one? Villegas had a career .428 batting average which if Im not mistaken is the conference career record.

baseballfanatic

TLU will always be in the hunt for a conference championship, because the coaching staff gets players that believe in TEAM first, but the conference should not punish them by not getting any position players on the first team.

hsusid

Quote from: dp643 on May 11, 2010, 10:55:16 PM
Are you sure he is the only one? Villegas had a career .428 batting average which if Im not mistaken is the conference career record.

DP643, You are correct my bad. I looked at the ASC career records today and they are updated at the end of each year. I didn't even think about Villegas since he is also a current guy.

I am not disappointed to see Villegas and Arrieta graduate. They are two of the best hitters I have seen in the league since I have been around. Of course there have been others, but those two have worn us out.

dp643

Arrieta is close to 400 too. Some very good hitters graduating this year!

dp643

Quote from: baseballfanatic on May 11, 2010, 10:56:36 PM
TLU will always be in the hunt for a conference championship, because the coaching staff gets players that believe in TEAM first, but the conference should not punish them by not getting any position players on the first team.
you don't honestly think that during the voting the coaches all decided to stick it to tlu because they won? That sounds ridiculous. The numbers were there this year for just as deserving guys. Last year was a different story.