BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

[golden_dome]

Texas-Tyler in as a Pool A
Mississippi College looks like it will be in as a Pool C

I dont see any more Pool C's coming from ASC...

Will both be flying to Oregon ??

I don't know if you mentioned this or not, but I could see Pacific Lutheran getting in because they are a bus ride to Linfield, which would keep TLU out. I think MC heads somewhere else.

[CrashDavisD3]

Team   Regional Rec   Win %   OWP   OOWP   SOS
217 Pacific Lutheran   23-10   0.697   0.493   0.496   0.494
224 Texas Lutheran   29-13   0.690   0.492   0.498   0.494

Look almost identical to me...But ASC already will have 2 going to regional so I am putting my money on Pac Lu getting #6 seed to Oregon.

[Ralph Turner]

Team   Regional Rec   Win %   OWP   OOWP   SOS
217 Pacific Lutheran   23-10   0.697   0.493   0.496   0.494
224 Texas Lutheran   29-13   0.690   0.492   0.498   0.494

Look almost identical to me...But ASC already will have 2 going to regional so I am putting my money on Pac Lu getting #6 seed to Oregon.

In-region record versus ranked opponents:

Pac Lu vs. Linfield 1-3

TLU vs. UT-Tyler  2-0 (assuming that they move into the rankings; one game went 10 innings)
      vs. Trinity     0-2
      vs. MissColl   0-2  (both games went extra innings)

Seconday criteria:

TLU vs DeSales   1-0 (out of region ranked opponent but Desales may not be in the next rankings)

[swbaseball3]

TLU would be in big trouble if the baseball God's called their number.  Everyone split and kids are all home.  My call....not a chance they get it anyway.  Good year but needed to win one/two of those Trinity/MC games.  The real bummer on the Trinity games is they were mid-week and TLU pitched mid-week guys.  Both times, Trinity threw weekend starters.  Oh, well.

[swbaseball3]

Theres no point in arguing with you over this. I argue facts that dont change....what actually happened. Your talking points are all what if's.

Heres another thing to ponder Swbaseball, and Mr. Femath...

Andrew Femath               .390 average, 25 runs scored, 2 homers, 11 RBI

Kyle Lloyd (HPU)              .409 average, 21 runs scored, 3 homers, 15 RBI

Conference stats only listed above. Why arent we crying for Kyle Lloyd to be first team all conference?

I guess Kyle Lloyd's accomplishments should have an asterisk next to it because he had 10 hits on the road in Alpine.

He got HOW MANY HITS IN ALPINE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?  3.3 hits per game?  Send him to the HOF now.

None the less, discussion done but you NEVER responded to my Helton/Mays question.  Why?  Becasue altitude is a HUGE advantage.  Period.

[tigerfan_2001]

To dp643 & Big Poppa, you guys are wrong again. I dont think that TLU players would come in here and post with people like me  & you, they are too smart. I am just a baseball fanatic that follows baseball (Juco,D2 & D3). Go UT Tyler & represent the ASC in regionals.

I think they are going more on the fact that your email address is the same last name as one of the players you were arguing should have made all conf.

[dp643]

Thats one thing Trinity has always done is throw their big guns in the mid week games. I remember one double header we played them in between a short conference week and we had to face Bronson and Oates. Its the nature of the beast I guess.

[dp643]

To dp643 & Big Poppa, you guys are wrong again. I dont think that TLU players would come in here and post with people like me  & you, they are too smart. I am just a baseball fanatic that follows baseball (Juco,D2 & D3). Go UT Tyler & represent the ASC in regionals.

It has to do with the fact that your email address is the same first and last name of the father of Andrew Femath on the TLU player bio page.

[dp643]

Theres no point in arguing with you over this. I argue facts that dont change....what actually happened. Your talking points are all what if's.

Heres another thing to ponder Swbaseball, and Mr. Femath...

Andrew Femath               .390 average, 25 runs scored, 2 homers, 11 RBI

Kyle Lloyd (HPU)              .409 average, 21 runs scored, 3 homers, 15 RBI

Conference stats only listed above. Why arent we crying for Kyle Lloyd to be first team all conference?

I guess Kyle Lloyd's accomplishments should have an asterisk next to it because he had 10 hits on the road in Alpine.

He got HOW MANY HITS IN ALPINE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?  3.3 hits per game?  Send him to the HOF now.

None the less, discussion done but you NEVER responded to my Helton/Mays question.  Why?  Becasue altitude is a HUGE advantage.  Period.

You said no need to respond to it so I didnt.

I will say this though....anyone who can hit for a career 326 batting average in the big leagues is a darn good hitter, whether you are playing on the moon or inside the Astrodome is irrelevant.

[Ralph Turner]

TLU would be in big trouble if the baseball God's called their number.  Everyone split and kids are all home.  My call....not a chance they get it anyway.  Good year but needed to win one/two of those Trinity/MC games.  The real bummer on the Trinity games is they were mid-week and TLU pitched mid-week guys.  Both times, Trinity threw weekend starters.  Oh, well.

Thats one thing Trinity has always done is throw their big guns in the mid week games. I remember one double header we played them in between a short conference week and we had to face Bronson and Oates. Its the nature of the beast I guess.

In the first game with TU (4-2 TU win), TU pitched their #1 Klimesh.

In the second game (the 12-1 TU win), TU pitches Lucero, their #4 starter.

http://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/stats/teamcume.htm

TU has scheduled their mid-week games masterfully.  I think that the 2-3 SCAC-West schedule works to the SCAC advantage vs the ASC-West teams.  TU was able to pitch their #1 because they had a two-game series at Hendrix on Saturday and Sunday before the Tuesday TLU game.  This is the weekend before the Millsaps series.

Sat Apr. 10      at Austin *           W, 8-2      Final     
Sun Apr. 11    at Austin *       W, 19-3    Final - 7 innings    
Tue Apr. 13    at Schreiner       W, 16-4    Final    
Wed Apr. 14    at Texas Lutheran       W, 12-1    Final

[tigerfan_2001]

TLU would be in big trouble if the baseball God's called their number.  Everyone split and kids are all home.  My call....not a chance they get it anyway.  Good year but needed to win one/two of those Trinity/MC games.  The real bummer on the Trinity games is they were mid-week and TLU pitched mid-week guys.  Both times, Trinity threw weekend starters.  Oh, well.

Thats one thing Trinity has always done is throw their big guns in the mid week games. I remember one double header we played them in between a short conference week and we had to face Bronson and Oates. Its the nature of the beast I guess.

In the first game with TU (4-2 TU win), TU pitched their #1 Klimesh.

In the second game (the 12-1 TU win), TU pitches Lucero, their #4 starter.

http://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/stats/teamcume.htm

TU has scheduled their mid-week games masterfully.  I think that the 2-3 SCAC-West schedule works to the SCAC advantage vs the ASC-West teams.  TU was able to pitch their #1 because they had a two-game series at Hendrix on Saturday and Sunday before the Tuesday TLU game.  This is the weekend before the Millsaps series.

Sat Apr. 10      at Austin *           W, 8-2      Final     
Sun Apr. 11    at Austin *       W, 19-3    Final - 7 innings    
Tue Apr. 13    at Schreiner       W, 16-4    Final    
Wed Apr. 14    at Texas Lutheran       W, 12-1    Final

I think part of that is that Coach Scannell wants to win every time, not just the conference series.  Often time, the conf series games arent as tough as the mid week games and usually the ASC are higher ranked than the SCAC, so those are the games he goes after.

[Bmo]

At the time of the first game, Klimesh wasn't exactly TUs #1.  He grew into the role over the season, but during the first half of the season the weekend starters were Solomon, Panozzo, and Robertson.  TLU faced Trinity's 4th starter twice, not a stashed ace in a mid-week game.

[BigPoppa]

To dp643 & Big Poppa, you guys are wrong again. I dont think that TLU players would come in here and post with people like me  & you, they are too smart. I am just a baseball fanatic that follows baseball (Juco,D2 & D3). Go UT Tyler & represent the ASC in regionals.

It has to do with the fact that your email address is the same first and last name of the father of Andrew Femath on the TLU player bio page.

So maybe I was wrong and it wasn't a player boasting about himself, but a father boasting about his son and making a case for him to be all-conference.

[OshDude]

Team   Regional Rec   Win %   OWP   OOWP   SOS
217 Pacific Lutheran   23-10   0.697   0.493   0.496   0.494
224 Texas Lutheran   29-13   0.690   0.492   0.498   0.494

Look almost identical to me...But ASC already will have 2 going to regional so I am putting my money on Pac Lu getting #6 seed to Oregon.

In-region record versus ranked opponents:

Pac Lu vs. Linfield 1-3

TLU vs. UT-Tyler  2-0 (assuming that they move into the rankings; one game went 10 innings)
      vs. Trinity     0-2
      vs. MissColl   0-2  (both games went extra innings)

Seconday criteria:

TLU vs DeSales   1-0 (out of region ranked opponent but Desales may not be in the next rankings)

As far as DeSales goes, "once ranked, always ranked." At least this season.

[dp643]

Klimesh started and threw more innings than anyone on the staff, including 2 big in region mid week games vs UMHB and TLU, both of which he threw complete games against.

Robertson may have started the year as a weekend pitcher, but I dont think that he was bumped half way through the season since he has only started 2 games all year.

Like it or not Trinity has a history of throwing big guns in mid week games vs the ASC. Ive witnessed this trend for many years.