BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

[Bmo]

Robertson began the season as a weekend starter, but had some injury issues that pushed him out of the rotation.  Klimesh took over that spot after the MHB and TLU games.  Klimesh was 1-6 with 8.57 ERA the previous year.  Although, he obviously has a lot of talent, he was not counted on as a weekend starter at that point in the season. He never took the bump in the first three game series against conference foe Austin.  The mid-game ace theory just doesn't work this time.

[CrashDavisD3]

To dp643 & Big Poppa, you guys are wrong again. I dont think that TLU players would come in here and post with people like me  & you, they are too smart. I am just a baseball fanatic that follows baseball (Juco,D2 & D3). Go UT Tyler & represent the ASC in regionals.

It has to do with the fact that your email address is the same first and last name of the father of Andrew Femath on the TLU player bio page.

So maybe I was wrong and it wasn't a player boasting about himself, but a father boasting about his son and making a case for him to be all-conference.

Coaches dont read this or care. Not sure who he was trying to win over either..

[tigerfan_2001]

Team   Regional Rec   Win %   OWP   OOWP   SOS
217 Pacific Lutheran   23-10   0.697   0.493   0.496   0.494
224 Texas Lutheran   29-13   0.690   0.492   0.498   0.494

Look almost identical to me...But ASC already will have 2 going to regional so I am putting my money on Pac Lu getting #6 seed to Oregon.

In-region record versus ranked opponents:

Pac Lu vs. Linfield 1-3

TLU vs. UT-Tyler  2-0 (assuming that they move into the rankings; one game went 10 innings)
      vs. Trinity     0-2
      vs. MissColl   0-2  (both games went extra innings)

Seconday criteria:

TLU vs DeSales   1-0 (out of region ranked opponent but Desales may not be in the next rankings)

As far as DeSales goes, "once ranked, always ranked." At least this season.

Is that true...then TU went 2-0 v DeSales, 2-0 v TLU, and 1-1 v Millsaps, making them 5-1 v ranked opponents.  I thought it was just in region ranked opponents that mattered.

With regards to Klimesh, he was being counted on to be a major contributor to the Tiger staff this year and him throwing against UMHB and TLU was no accident, the results were a little surprising....

[OshDude]

Team   Regional Rec   Win %   OWP   OOWP   SOS
217 Pacific Lutheran   23-10   0.697   0.493   0.496   0.494
224 Texas Lutheran   29-13   0.690   0.492   0.498   0.494

Look almost identical to me...But ASC already will have 2 going to regional so I am putting my money on Pac Lu getting #6 seed to Oregon.

In-region record versus ranked opponents:

Pac Lu vs. Linfield 1-3

TLU vs. UT-Tyler  2-0 (assuming that they move into the rankings; one game went 10 innings)
     vs. Trinity     0-2
     vs. MissColl   0-2  (both games went extra innings)

Seconday criteria:

TLU vs DeSales   1-0 (out of region ranked opponent but Desales may not be in the next rankings)

As far as DeSales goes, "once ranked, always ranked." At least this season.

Is that true...then TU went 2-0 v DeSales, 2-0 v TLU, and 1-1 v Millsaps, making them 5-1 v ranked opponents.  I thought it was just in region ranked opponents that mattered.

With regards to Klimesh, he was being counted on to be a major contributor to the Tiger staff this year and him throwing against UMHB and TLU was no accident, the results were a little surprising....

Results against nonregional opponents, ranked or otherwise, fall under the secondary criteria.

[CrashDavisD3]

TLU vs. UT-Tyler  2-0     vs. Trinity     0-2   vs. MissColl   0-2  Makes it 2-4.
Not good enough for a Pool C.

[dp643]

Robertson began the season as a weekend starter, but had some injury issues that pushed him out of the rotation.  Klimesh took over that spot after the MHB and TLU games.  Klimesh was 1-6 with 8.57 ERA the previous year.  Although, he obviously has a lot of talent, he was not counted on as a weekend starter at that point in the season. He never took the bump in the first three game series against conference foe Austin.  The mid-game ace theory just doesn't work this time.

Klimesh didnt pitch that weekend vs Austin because he threw a complete game shutout on Wednesday vs UMHB.

[Ralph Turner]

TLU would be in big trouble if the baseball God's called their number.  Everyone split and kids are all home.  My call....not a chance they get it anyway.  Good year but needed to win one/two of those Trinity/MC games.  The real bummer on the Trinity games is they were mid-week and TLU pitched mid-week guys.  Both times, Trinity threw weekend starters.  Oh, well.

Thats one thing Trinity has always done is throw their big guns in the mid week games. I remember one double header we played them in between a short conference week and we had to face Bronson and Oates. Its the nature of the beast I guess.

In the first game with TU (4-2 TU win), TU pitched their #1 Klimesh.

In the second game (the 12-1 TU win), TU pitches Lucero, their #4 starter.

http://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/stats/teamcume.htm

TU has scheduled their mid-week games masterfully.  I think that the 2-3 SCAC-West schedule works to the SCAC advantage vs the ASC-West teams.  TU was able to pitch their #1 because they had a two-game series at Hendrix on Saturday and Sunday before the Tuesday TLU game.  This is the weekend before the Millsaps series.

Sat Apr. 10      at Austin *           W, 8-2      Final     
Sun Apr. 11    at Austin *       W, 19-3    Final - 7 innings    
Tue Apr. 13    at Schreiner       W, 16-4    Final    
Wed Apr. 14    at Texas Lutheran       W, 12-1    Final

I think part of that is that Coach Scannell wants to win every time, not just the conference series.  Often time, the conf series games arent as tough as the mid week games and usually the ASC are higher ranked than the SCAC, so those are the games he goes after.

For a team like Trinity or any other team that thinks that they have post-season chances, the in-region games count as much as conference games, once you  have taken care of business in the conference.

We ASC teams benefit from playing the SCAC schools, too.

We will benefit more when we have 2 separate "ASC" conferences.

[dp643]

I dont have a problem with Trinity throwing whoever the heck they want to at anytime. Its their decision. Theres been years where they have thrown all weekend starters in midweek games, only to lose as well. Its a gamble that I personally wouldnt take, but thats the beauty of having a different coaching philosophy. It also doesnt mean one philosophy is right or wrong either.

[Ron Boerger]

Is that true...then TU went 2-0 v DeSales, 2-0 v TLU, and 1-1 v Millsaps, making them 5-1 v ranked opponents.  I thought it was just in region ranked opponents that mattered.

Results against nonregional opponents, ranked or otherwise, fall under the secondary criteria.

This boils down to a question I asked on the West Divisional playoff thread ... last week's official NCAA data used in regional ranking calculations showed Trinity as 1-1 against regionally ranked opponents.  There's quite a difference between 1-1 and 3-1 (plus 2-0 against other regionally ranked opponents) so I hope they get it right this week.   

[SandGnats]

We will benefit more when we have 2 separate "ASC" conferences.

Never going to happen.

[dp643]

The ASC gets a pool c and nothing on the board all day?! Whats going on?!?

[Ron Boerger]

You might have better luck on the West Regional board ... that's where most ppl tend to go to talk about the teams still in it.  Have seen some MC discussion there, nothing about UTT (where are the UTT fans, anyway?).

[Patriot_Pride]

The ASC gets a pool c and nothing on the board all day?! Whats going on?!?

Not much talk, because it was no surprise at all. Mississippi College was in win or lose by its body of work the whole year and in region. They earned it, and will provide another brutal opponent in a "death regional" in my opinion. Whoever advances out of the Linfield Regional deserves to represent at the World Series.

Probably one of the, if not the, best regional in this year's 55-team field.

Linfield Regional Tournament Central: http://www.linfield.edu/sports/ncaaregional.html 

Hopefully with two ASC teams in the same regional, we'll find a way to get one in the CWS. Chapman has owned that regional for the last five years.

[DavidNichols]

The ASC gets a pool c and nothing on the board all day?! Whats going on?!?

That's an easy answer.  There's not a West team in the Regional, so there's no chatter on the board.  Texas-Tyler and MC went along their merry little way all season not talking much and got done what's only happened one other time in conference history (The only other time was when Texas-Dallas (East Division) earned the bid a couple years ago.).  I think the McMinnville Regional is one of the toughest, if not the toughest in the country.  Not only did every team except for the host school, Linfield, have to fly up there, but all six teams are in the top 17 in the country.  I really hate that TLU didn't get into the tournament being that they have two stud pitchers in Orosey and Steinert, and a very good one in Staggs.  They could have really done some damage.

Here's a conversation starter.  How bout the NCAA putting Tyler and MC on the same plane to go to Oregon?  I bet there were some stories from that trip.

[RSSmith]

The ASC gets a pool c and nothing on the board all day?! Whats going on?!?

That's an easy answer.  There's not a West team in the Regional, so there's no chatter on the board.  Texas-Tyler and MC went along their merry little way all season not talking much and got done what's only happened one other time in conference history (The only other time was when Texas-Dallas (East Division) earned the bid a couple years ago.).  I think the McMinnville Regional is one of the toughest, if not the toughest in the country.  Not only did every team except for the host school, Linfield, have to fly up there, but all six teams are in the top 17 in the country.  I really hate that TLU didn't get into the tournament being that they have two stud pitchers in Orosey and Steinert, and a very good one in Staggs.  They could have really done some damage.

Here's a conversation starter.  How bout the NCAA putting Tyler and MC on the same plane to go to Oregon?  I bet there were some stories from that trip.

I would guess that the trip up will be cordial.  The trip back, under certain circumstances, could be otherwise.