BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

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BaseballFreak

When is UTT going to hire Coach Phelps for the Head job?  What are they waiting for? 

Here is a link to a great story about the coaching situation.

http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20100516/SPORTS0305/5160322


Ralph Turner

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Quote from: BaseballFreak on May 19, 2010, 10:11:09 PM
When is UTT going to hire Coach Phelps for the Head job?  What are they waiting for?

Here is a link to a great story about the coaching situation.

http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20100516/SPORTS0305/5160322
As a state job, there are rules by which an opening must be posted, applicants given time to apply, a chance to interview the most qualified, and then the process of clearing the applicant thru any state mandated clearances and background checks.

My first thought is that the athletic director, Mr James Vilade, wanted to get the playoffs settled before he goes too far into that process.

swbaseball3

Nope...here's the West...writing up.  I am perplexed as to why the ASC has gone bust the past few years in Regionals.  Appears that UTT just failed to show up.  Now, I am very familiar with Pomona as one of my former players is there, Nick Frederick.  Appears that he was a tough out going 3-for-4.

MC didn't fair much better but as mentioned in an earlier post, this is the "death regional."  Linfield 6-1 over MC.

Klemesh seemed to be OK for Trinity yesterday but walks killed him.  8 walks is a very bad sign.  2 scored on a double in the 4th that may have been the dagger.

I would say that the odds on ANY ASC/Texas team making it out of Region is close to zero at this point.  Ugh.

golden_dome

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Quote from: swbaseball3 on May 20, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
Nope...here's the West...writing up.  I am perplexed as to why the ASC has gone bust the past few years in Regionals.  Appears that UTT just failed to show up.  Now, I am very familiar with Pomona as one of my former players is there, Nick Frederick.  Appears that he was a tough out going 3-for-4.

MC didn't fair much better but as mentioned in an earlier post, this is the "death regional."  Linfield 6-1 over MC.

Klemesh seemed to be OK for Trinity yesterday but walks killed him.  8 walks is a very bad sign.  2 scored on a double in the 4th that may have been the dagger.

I would say that the odds on ANY ASC/Texas team making it out of Region is close to zero at this point.  Ugh.

I can't speak on the last several years of why an ASC team, or South team, hasn't won a regional, but I can comment on what I'm seeing this year. There is very little difference in any of the six teams in the West regional, and I don't think anyone who was out here would disagree.

Chapman/Trinity could have gone either way, and little difference in the teams and two starters Klimesh-Rauh. Same in the MC/Linfield game, very close teams. I didn't see Tyler/Pomona so I can't comment on that one. But Tyler's starting pitching has been an achilles heel, but they held it together in the ASC Tourney. I don't think it's shocking they lost the first couple innings, and then won the rest of the game.

I think any outside, objective person would have no problem believing these six teams are among the nation's top 18 because they are close. I thought Chapman was fortunate to get out of the Trinity game with a W with Trinity stranding a ton, and Linfield was fortunate to benefit from a couple walks and two errors late in a game they weren't sniffing hits. But people up here say that happens a lot to these two teams, so at some point they make their fortune. They are just very solid teams, who have a lot of postseason experience. It shows.

I hope today goes differently.

Ron Boerger

Quote from: swbaseball3 on May 20, 2010, 09:09:05 AM
Klemesh seemed to be OK for Trinity yesterday but walks killed him.  8 walks is a very bad sign.  2 scored on a double in the 4th that may have been the dagger.

I would say that the odds on ANY ASC/Texas team making it out of Region is close to zero at this point.  Ugh.

Klimesh averaged about 5 BB/CG during the regular season, but they also called 6 BBs on the Chapman pitcher (who averaged less than 3 BB/CG) so the ump may have had a larger strike zone than most.   He did hold Chapman to four hits in eight innings.  Trinity had their chances but couldn't get the big hit when it counted ... stranded 12 runners, had a guy on third in the first but couldn't plate him, runner thrown out at the plate with one out in the third, bases loaded with no outs but only plated one run in the eighth ... but yeah, the MC-TU loser is out today and the UT-T faces Chapman who has a very fine #2 starter (Sigman, 2.72, 8-4).   Better him than Rauh, who after defeating Trinity yesterday is now 11-0.

Just_Some_Guy

Quote from: Ron Boerger on May 20, 2010, 10:40:08 AM
but yeah, the MC-TU loser is out today and the UT-T faces Chapman who has a very fine #2 starter (Sigman, 2.72, 8-4).   Better him than Rauh, who after defeating Trinity yesterday is now 11-0.

Interesting to see how Chapman approaches it today. They have a history of starting the best guy available, but bringing back their big horses on short rest. That said I don't know if Ruah is at the point in his career where he can give you a Klovstad, Drag, Kitchens performance on short rest. And there's no safety valve like Yacko at the back end this year.

I suspect they're conscious of Linfield lurking and I could definitely see them starting McGee and trying to save Sigman for that all important 3rd game.

Also, someone in attendance said he thought the zone was the same as it had been on year, and also thought the weather wasn't really impacting the number of walks either. He said from his vantage point it was more nerves and getting acclimated to the atmosphere.



JSG

swbaseball3

BTW,was I the only guy who noticed 44 flippin degrees at gametime for UTT?  Also, I am really disappointed for the kids out there with respect to the attandance...100 people!!  I think everyone in the ASC would believe a crowd of 300-400 is expected with this level of play.

Let's hope the ASC can fight their way back into the finals and make a good showing.

Per an earlier post, agreed on no team from the ASC winning the Regions but there have been a number of teams make the finals only to fall to Chapman.

CrashDavisD3

Trinity and MC games could have easily gone the other way for them. A timely hit in the Trinity game and no untimley errors and scores could have gone the other way.

The number of great teams in this one region this year from #1 to #6 is the best in 4 years I have seen including some of the recent World Series in Appleton..It is the toughest regional I have witness...So it will be interesting how day 2 goes...
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
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Patriot_Pride

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As a state job, there are rules by which an opening must be posted, applicants given time to apply, a chance to interview the most qualified, and then the process of clearing the applicant thru any state mandated clearances and background checks.

My first thought is that the athletic director, Mr James Vilade, wanted to get the playoffs settled before he goes too far into that process.

Ralph,
Let's just say you're way off with that thought about coach wanting to get into the playoffs first. It's not his call who the next hire should be or it would've already happened. He's stressed over and over that he wants Stan Phelps. However, there are a lot of qualified applicants for the position, but the choice falls into the hands of one man who will go unnamed. Period.

And on the above post with a link to a story in the Tyler Paper, that in no way helped coach Phelps get the job. If anything, that dampered his chances. He should've steared clear of that requested interview.

TexasBB

My son played with and pitched with Stan in 2004 and was pitcher when Stan first started as a coach in 2005. (By the way the 2005 team was the first UTT to win the East and win 30 games).  We have been pulling for Stan to get the job. He at least deserves the chance and I know James has recommended him to administration. But I would believe that there are alot of applicants that have great credentials and head coaching experience which Stan does not have. The administration will make a decision based upon what they think is in the best interest of the University and the baseball program. As I have said in an earlier post UTT has a great facility for a DIII school and there must be alot of head coaches at successful JUCO, DIII and HS level that would be interested in this job. Also there are probably DII and DI assistant coaches that may have been former HS or JUCO head coaches that would apply. So the competition for this position has to be fierce. Just because an assistant coach is well thought of and respected by the players, former players and fans does not mean he gets the job. Just look at TT for a recent example. Stan will land on his feet somewhere if he is passed over. Knowing James he will help Stan if he does not get this job.

Just_Some_Guy

Great win for UT Tyler today 5-4 over Chapman.

The bad news? They play Mississippi College tomorrow, which will effectively eliminate one of the ASC teams from the West Regional.

The good news? The winner could find themselves one of only 2 teams left standing and having to beat someone twice. The alternative being they would have to beat someone once, and then someone else after that.

JSG

Ralph Turner

A degree of vindication for the ASC.

The winner may get a chance at the finals.

The #6 seed is going home after playing 20 innings of baseball, without a key player, and coming up only 2 runs short!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: Patriot_Pride on May 20, 2010, 12:06:58 PM
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As a state job, there are rules by which an opening must be posted, applicants given time to apply, a chance to interview the most qualified, and then the process of clearing the applicant thru any state mandated clearances and background checks.

My first thought is that the athletic director, Mr James Vilade, wanted to get the playoffs settled before he goes too far into that process.

Ralph,
Let's just say you're way off with that thought about coach wanting to get into the playoffs first. It's not his call who the next hire should be or it would've already happened. He's stressed over and over that he wants Stan Phelps. However, there are a lot of qualified applicants for the position, but the choice falls into the hands of one man who will go unnamed. Period.

And on the above post with a link to a story in the Tyler Paper, that in no way helped coach Phelps get the job. If anything, that dampered his chances. He should've steared clear of that requested interview.
Respectfully, we have no mention that there is a search committee in the Tyler Paper outside the office of the AD for the new baseball coach.  The search committee has not been mentioned anywhere, for the baseball job or the AD post, only that one has been formed for the AD job.

http://www.uttyler.edu/athletics/news/general/march01-10.html

Yes, I agree that this is an excellent job.

Some schools will hire from within when qualified people are present, as McMurry did when they hired Coach Byington with the departure of Coach Driggers. TLU did the same with Greg Burnett when Bill Miller moved to the AD job.

I just wanted the writer in the Tyler paper to give a more substantive article about the process that is place for the UTT job.

I wish UTT success as they carry the ASC banner forward.  We need someone going back to Wisconsin!

golden_dome

Quote from: Patriot_Pride on May 20, 2010, 12:06:58 PM
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As a state job, there are rules by which an opening must be posted, applicants given time to apply, a chance to interview the most qualified, and then the process of clearing the applicant thru any state mandated clearances and background checks.

My first thought is that the athletic director, Mr James Vilade, wanted to get the playoffs settled before he goes too far into that process.

Ralph,
Let's just say you're way off with that thought about coach wanting to get into the playoffs first. It's not his call who the next hire should be or it would've already happened. He's stressed over and over that he wants Stan Phelps. However, there are a lot of qualified applicants for the position, but the choice falls into the hands of one man who will go unnamed. Period.

And on the above post with a link to a story in the Tyler Paper, that in no way helped coach Phelps get the job. If anything, that dampered his chances. He should've steared clear of that requested interview.

I didn't see that in the article, I thought his comments were professional. Nothing wrong with a local article touting your qualifications for the job.

Patriot_Pride

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I didn't see that in the article, I thought his comments were professional. Nothing wrong with a local article touting your qualifications for the job.

The article states.... "Phelps deserves the hire just on merit, but if he were not given the job, the university may regret the decision down the road. If Phelps is anywhere other than Irwin Field in February of next year, success in UT Tyler baseball could very well become a thing of the past."

It's backing the administration into a corner in a way and saying if you don't hire him you're an idiot. And that could be true, but I personally would have just declined the interview even though I knew I should have the job.

Reading it again, Stan's comments were fine. It was just a pushy story wanting to know why we haven't hired a replacement yet and that's understandable.