BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

[Ralph Turner]

Preliminary report...

HPU beat UMHB once today.  UMHB finishes 4th and travels to UT-Tyler.


McM beats Sul Ross 6-5.  Tying run was thrown out at the plate in the bottom of the 9th.

McMurry wins the #1 seed by virtue of the records vs CTX and HSU.

[Ralph Turner]

HSU 8-3 and 7-5 over TLU.

HSU finishes 14-7, and has the tie-breaker over CTX  (Season series 2 games to 1).  HSU hosts and is the #2 seed.

CTX sweeps Schreiner 17-1, 4-1, 4-1.  Clinches tri-championship and is the #3 seed.

[Ralph Turner]

UOz is 13-5 and has finished its season.

After losing to UT-Tyler twice today, MissCollege is 12-5 and needs to win tomorrow to get the tie for second and the #2 seed.  (MissColl beat UOz 2 games to 1.)

[TexasBB]

What has happened to UMHB. Two weeks ago they were #1 in the West and were ranked in the top 20 in both polls.  Have there been any injuries?  Any thoughts from those that follow the West as to their collapse? They went form 1 all the way to 4 in the West in 2 weekends.

[Ralph Turner]

UT-Tyler seems to be the favorite, especially with the way that McMurry had to back into the #1 seed (only able to take 1 of three in a very close series versus SRSU, see later), and the way that UMHB lost their momentum at the end of the season, losing 4 of 6.

On the other hand, maybe what we have in the West is incredible balance.

In West Division play, SRSU had 8 losses by three runs or less.  If SRSU wins all 8 games, in that lucky season when every bounce falls right, they are 11-10 and in the playoffs.

I checked UT-Tyler's record in the regular season versus the three West Region tri-champs, and they are 3-3.

This tourney may be closer than we can imagine.

We need a Cru fan to jump in here.

[fungoman]

Congrats to the UT Tyler kids for playing good baseball today and winning yet anything East Division championship.

I looked at UMHB website Ralph and saw this...

"The Cru exploded for an eight-run first inning and a six-run fifth inning in game two. UMHB was cruising when the umpires suspended the game after six innings due to darkness with the Cru leading 18-5."

They won game won it appears 16-5.

So what in the world does that do to the west division standings assuming they pull out game two and win game three?

Does anyone want to win the west? Sounds like the west might be full of mediocre teams...

[TexasBB]

UTT is hitting extemely well over the last several games and their pitching continues to be very good. Ziegler has stepped up to fill the closer role as he really performed well in two crucial games. Last week against LC they had just tied the score and Holland was struggling. Ziegler came in and he shut down LC which gave UTT the opportunity to win in the bottom of the 7th which they did with a walk off home run.th. Today it was Boohers turn to struggle. Although UTT was ahead 6-2 going into the 7th Booher allowed the first two to get on base with the 3,4 and 5 hitter for MC due up. Booher was struggling with the strikezone and his pitch count was already 112. Ziegler came in and retired the side on 3 pitches!! He picked the runner off second with a great spin move and then after throwing one ball got MC 3 and 4 hitters both to pop up in the infield. Then he came back and struck out 5 of the next 6 outs only walking 1 and allowing 1 hit.  In the two games today UTT pounded out 30 hits. The second game they got 13 hits but only scored 6 runs as Wiliams did a good job of getiing out of jams. They have now won 12 straight. I think they are on a roll and will be tough to beat.

[Ralph Turner]

Congrats to the UT Tyler kids for playing good baseball today and winning yet anything East Division championship.

I looked at UMHB website Ralph and saw this...

"The Cru exploded for an eight-run first inning and a six-run fifth inning in game two. UMHB was cruising when the umpires suspended the game after six innings due to darkness with the Cru leading 18-5."

They won game won it appears 16-5.

So what in the world does that do to the west division standings assuming they pull out game two and win game three?

Does anyone want to win the west? Sounds like the west might be full of mediocre teams...

Fungoman, my sources said that UMHB lost today. +1!

The HPU web site shows the 16-5 UMHB victory in the 7-inning game that started at 1pm.  The ASC usually plays 7/9 DH's on Saturday.  We don't have the second game results.

Let's check that out.  Thanks!

[fungoman]

Are we still going to play UMHB even if they all tie for first Ralph? I am new to a 4 team tiebreaker! What a mess that would be...

[Ralph Turner]

Are we still going to play UMHB even if they all tie for first Ralph? I am new to a 4 team tiebreaker! What a mess that would be...

If UMHB wins the second game in the DH and wins the HPU game tomorrow, the ASC tie-breaker in a multi-team tie is the record of the four teams against each other.

9.1.2    Multiple Ties: In the event of a tie with three or more teams, the seed positions are determined by (for all sports except football and tennis):

             a. The team with the most games/matches won against other tied teams collectively will be awarded the highest seeded position. The remaining teams are placed at the beginning of the appropriate formula for "Multiple Ties" or "Two-Way Ties" until all ties have been broken.

             b. If one team does not have a winning record (more games/matches won) against the other tied teams collectively, the individual records against the other Conference opponents in descending order starting with the top-seeded team are compared. When one team is awarded the higher seeded position by this method, the remaining teams are placed at the beginning of the appropriate formula for "Multiple Ties" or "Two-Way Ties" until all ties have been broken.

Team   Victories                                    Record

McM --  HSU HSU UMHB CTX CTX          5-4

UMHB-- HSU HSU McM McM                   4-5

CTX --  HSU McM UMHB UMHB UMHB     5-4

HSU -- McM  UMHB CTX CTX                 4-5

McMurry is the #1 seed.  McM and CTX make the first cut and then McM wins the next tie-breaker by beating CTX 2 games to one.

McMurry, however, took the No. 1 seed after the tiebreaker policy states that the best overall record against the tying teams gets the nod. McMurry took two of three from Hardin-Simmons and Concordia and one of three from Mary Hardin-Baylor. With a 5-4 record against the other three teams, McMurry got the top seed because UMHB lost all three to Concordia, and took two from McMurry and two from HSU to give the Crusaders a 4-5 record against the other tied opponents.-- Kyle Robarts McM SID

CTX is the #2 seed.

UMHB is the #3 seed by virtue of winning the season series with HSU, if UMHB sweeps the HPU series and there is a 4-way tie.

Edited Apr 20th.  Sorry that I missed it yesterday.

[Ralph Turner]

Are we still going to play UMHB even if they all tie for first Ralph? I am new to a 4 team tiebreaker! What a mess that would be...

I think that UMHB must play the game because they need the 14th win to attain the four-way tie. 


A knowledgeable source has confirmed the UMHB situation via an email to me!

Ralph,
Your preliminary reports are wrong. UMHB won game one against Howard Payne
16-5 and leads game two 18-5. Game two was suspended due to darkness and will be completed Sunday prior to regularly scheduled game. If UMHB wins both there is a four-way tie for first. McMurry would be #1 seed, CTX would be #2 seed, UMHB would be #3 seed and HSU would be #4. If UMHB loses one tomorrow, there is a three-way tie for first. McMurry would be #1 seed, HSU would be #2, CTX would be #3 and UMHB would be #4. Thanks!

Thanks, friends!

UMHB may be getting out the mini-slump that they had versus an inspired CTX team.  Remember CTX had a walk-off Homer in the bottom of the 9th versus McMurry in the weekend before the UMHB series.

Corrections are always appreciated! 

[TexasBB]

MC up 4-0 in the 4th. Looks like a let down after winning the east yesterday. MC needs this win to get home field next week. Campbell once again is not effective. This could be a big problem for UTT in the conference tournament. If Campbell is not effeective they will have slug their way out of it. There is a fall off in the staff after the first three and Ziegler cannot be used in long relief and as a closer.  The confernce tournament will be all about match pitching match ups. 

[Ralph Turner]

Update from Brownwood, UMHB 0  HPU 0, in the bottom of the 2nd.

No score, top of the 4th.

No score, top of the 5th.  The cyber-rooting that you hear is coming from the Cowboys and the Tornados on the East and the Choctaws and the Eagles on the East. 

UMHB leads 3-0 going to the bottom of the fifth.

UMHB, 4-0 going to the bottom of the 6th.

[TexasBB]

End of 7 with MC 6 and UTT 3. Fellows still on the mound for MC - Wolfe in relief of Cambell who went 5 and gave up 6 hits 5 runs with 4 earned. He struck out 3 and walked 1 but was not in command of the strike zone. Too many pitches, falling behind in the count allowing the hitters to hit their pitch.

[TexasBB]

Russel not Fellows on the mound for MC and he has worked 8 full innings and is on a roll. He was a little shakey in the middle innings but has worked his way through it.