BB: ASC: American Southwest Conference

Started by Pat Coleman, December 29, 2005, 12:08:01 AM

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TexasBB

I would agree that the West had 4 good teams to the East 3. But the East had 2 teams with 30 or more wins. Those two teams have 3 good starters and that sets them apart. The third team in the East MC is a much better team today than it was in mid March. Those 3 are just as good as the 4 in the west and UTT has to be considered the one with an edge given that they have more balance on offense and pitching than any other team. All of the rest have major weaknesses. UTTs weakness is a possible lack of depth in the bullpen but they have arms. When they lost in Abeline earlier in the year those secondary pitchers were beat up. In theory (assuming they get past HSU this weekend), they could win the conference tournament in three games just using their 3 starters and Ziegler as a closer without having to test the rest of their bullpen. That assumes that all three starters pitch well.  I would expect them to use in this order Booher the first game (you must win that first game) followed by Holland then Cambell. If they win the first two behind their two most reliable starters then Cambell will likely be up against a number 4 guy. Cambell although he has been shaky in comparison with the other two would still be the the number 1 on alot of teams.   UTT also leads the conference in overall fielding defense and in overall offense - thus my comment on being balanced. They do not have anyone like David or even close to it but they have alot of extra base hits as a team and surprising number of home runs. Aslo Vilade has never won a confernce championship so  he will has his team fired up.  At this stage no team in the West stands out like TL did the last couple of years. This yere they are all about the same. I give McMurry the edge since they will be playing on their home field and do have the most dangerous power hitting team.

Blackcat00

You hit on the head with that comment D! Wow I remember those parents in Seguin.

fungoman

 I believe trash talk is an element of the game, and so are rowdy fans. It often times provides comic relief. Most fans, and parents for that matter, do not have enough of a clue to even know what they are talking about, which is why it often times provides the before mentioned comic relief. I think I would put you in that category too, Mr. White. Right there with them. The immature adults who have no clue what they are talking about. It is one thing to stoop to a level at an athletic event when an immature idiot adult is caught in the heat of the moment in athletic competition, but it is another to sit here and think up and type out a post singling out a student athlete on a message board. The rumors about you are true, you are a meathead.

Jack Parkman

Not to get into your little argument but this is turning pretty bad.  I think you guys should just agree to disagree and stop with all the name calling and get back to baseball.

Ralph Turner

#1159
I went thru the UOz schedule to find the games that resemble a best 2 of three format.  Here are the losses.  Millsaps beat Rhodes in the Crossover round of the SCAC tourney.

Millsaps 6-5

Millsaps College       IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Travis Bogue........  6.0  5  2  1  2  2 19 24

Univ. of the Ozarks    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Todd Koch...........  5.0  3  3  3  3  6 18 21


UMHB 18, UOz 16

Univ. of the Ozarks    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Robby Finnell.......  3.0  5  5  4  0  0 12 16

Mary Hardin-Baylor     IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Montoya.............  1.1  3  6  3  5  0  6 11
Welch...............  3.1  2  6  4  5  2 12 19



UT-Dallas 7-2

Univ. of the Ozarks    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Todd Koch...........  4.0 10  7  6  0  4 21 23

Texas-Dallas           IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Cox.................  9.0  7  2  2  0  8 34 35



UT-Tyler 2-1  (7 inn)


Ozarks (Ark.)          IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Curt Dixon..........  6.0  5  2  2  5  4 20 26

Texas-Tyler            IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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B. Holland..........  7.0  6  1  1  2  7 25 28


UT-Tyler 7-6

Ozarks (Ark.)          IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Bruce Cameron.......  6.0  6  3  1  0  2 25 26
Kyle Hudson.........  1.0  3  2  2  0  0  6  6
John Scheuring......  1.0  1  2  0  0  2  6  6


Texas-Tyler            IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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B. Booher...........  6.2  5  3  2  4  9 25 31
C. Munchrath........  0.0  1  1  1  1  0  1  2
L. Wolfe............  0.0  0  0  0  0  0  0  2
J. Long.............  0.1  0  1  1  1  0  1  2
B. Ziegler..........  2.0  1  1  1  0  5  7  7



Miss College 11-8

Mississippi College    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Tyler Williams......  5.2 14  8  8  2  3 26 31
Brett Hinson........  1.2  0  0  0  2  2  5  7
Josh Denson.........  1.2  0  0  0  1  0  4  5

Univ. of the Ozarks    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Todd Koch...........  5.1  7  5  4  3  6 22 26
Robby Finnell.......  2.1  6  6  6  0  2 13 13
Brett Wood..........  1.1  1  0  0  0  1  6  6



Miss College 14-12

Mississippi College    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Jonathan Russell....  6.0 10  6  0  1  3 30 33
Nathan Stewart......  2.0  5  3  1  1  1 11 12
Matt Jordan.........  0.0  0  2  2  2  0  0  2
Josh Denson.........  1.0  2  1  1  0  1  5  6

Univ. of the Ozarks    IP  H  R ER BB SO AB BF
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Bruce Cameron.......  2.2  7  6  6  2  0 15 17
DJ Braswell.........  1.1  2  3  3  3  3  6  9
Brett Wood..........  0.0  0  1  1  1  0  0  1
John Scheuring......  2.2  3  4  4  2  3 10 13
Bill Smith..........  2.1  1  0  0  0  3  9  9



Dixon and Koch stared 10 games; Cameron 7, Braswell 6. UOzarks 2008 Stats

UOz goes 30-9 on the year, but the games that I wonder about are the 2 games versus Ecclesia, the game versus Williams Baptist and the 2 versus Central Baptist.  (I don't see games that suspect on the McMurry, HSU, or CTX schedule.)

I think that the UOz staff is good, but I will not be surprised if CTX (the #2 ASC-West host) wins the series.  I question the 30-9 as being more inflated  by weaker teams on the ASC-East and those five games versus weaker smaller schools.  (Lyon College (24-18/9-11)  is NAIA-1 in the Trans South AC.

The CTX-UOz series should be a great one!   :)

(Mark Cox is on my all-ASC team.)

Ralph Turner

#1160
Quote from: All-AmericanFan on April 21, 2008, 07:53:36 PM
... MCM was down in Alpine and lost the series to a team who had one win in all of conference...

About MCM, I did read their write up about the ASC playoffs and it says Voorhees played (says he went hitless but hit three balls hard, box score says one hit one rbi??). It says Yurchick is questionable; I saw MCM in two series this year (HSU and UMHB), Yurchick made a night and day difference defensibly for MCM when he played second base in the latter series. His offensive numbers speak for himself, he hit the heck out of the ball against UMHB.

About UTT, they continue to win each and every series. The closest thing to a losing series was going 1 and 2 in their spring break tournament when they lost to MCM and HSU while beating Marietta.

...
I want to give some props to SRSU.  This season, they lost 9 ASC-West games by three runs or less.  SRSU was 3-18 on the season; They could have done much better with one of those incredible strings of luck that we have all seen in baseball, like the 2007 Rockies.

The McMurry series was the final series by SRSU Coach Pallanez who announced his retirement at the beginning of the season.  There were ceremonies for him between the games in the DH.  That was an emotion-charged Lobo team that played McMurry for their beloved coach.

TexasBB brought up the fact that Voorhees has been protecting David all season.  If pitchers can pitch around David, then the McMurry 1-2 punch is not there.  I don't know when Voorhees will be back to anything close to his normal before the collision at CTX in the 3rd HPU game*.


*Edited: Apr 22, 2008

CUAfan

Amen, Mr. Parkman!!!!


It would appear that the conference SID has changed how the stats appear when you look at them on the ASC website. Unfortunately, the change takes away some of the information I need to do my statistics. I would just go through the individual school pages, but I know that at least one (CTX) has had issues with that so unless something changes I probably will not have any stats to post for the ASC or the West region this week.

Oh well, stuff happens.
Let's go 'Nados!

Jack Parkman

Come on guys, easy on the Mr. Parkman business....I'm not that old.

Blackcat00

Go meat! Do I feel a little jelousy for what mr WHite put up in the conference?

Should be great weather this weekend in AUstin for this series.

Ralph Turner

#1164
Since this is a spring sport, and the golf championship is in the spring, here it is.
McMurry Women's Golf Team wins the ASC Pool A bid!

Because there are 7 schools playing women's golf, the ASC earns an automatic bid to the National tourney.

McMurry has the Pool A.

Here are the women's current Golfstat rankings thru April 16.

UMHB won the Pool A for the men.

UT-Tyler has a good chance at a Pool C bid.   There are 25 Pool a bids, 8 Pool b bids and 2 Pool C bids.  UT-Tyler is in good shape to get a Pool C bid, if there are no "upsets", like we have in basketball or football.  The current Golfstat rankings as of April 16 are with my current projections as for bids, if things go without upsets:

  1 Methodist University  264-  0    73.57   78.03    15- 0   406     6  USA South Pool A
  2 Redlands, Univ. of    262-  2    75.83   83.02     4- 1   485     2  SCIAC Pool A
  3 Oglethorpe Univ.      260-  4    74.89   78.58    17- 2   390     2 SCAC Pool A
  4 Huntingdon College    260-  4    75.00   79.06    16- 3   404     2  Pool B
  5 Texas, U. @ Tyler     258-  6    76.27   81.44     9- 3   594     4   ASC Pool C
  6 St. John's Univ.(MN)  257-  7    75.15   80.73     6- 4   541     2  MIAC Pool A
  7 CSU-East Bay          256-  8    75.27   82.04     0- 3   407     6  Pool B
  8 Wisconsin-Eau Claire  255-  9    75.16   79.95     5- 5   536     2 Pool B
  9 La Verne, Univ. of    254- 10    75.07   79.20     5- 8   477     5  SCIAC Pool C
10 Rhodes College        253- 11    76.01   80.48    10- 9   398     0 SCAC Pool C

fungoman

No one cares about what you guys did 6 years anymore.

Weather might play a factor in the UT Tyler series with moderate chances of rain each day. I hope the rain holds off, because I only have my hotel room for one night.

Ralph, what happens if the games do not get played? Do they have until Monday?

Ralph Turner

Fungoman, I don't know.

I need some other veteran observers to jump in here.

indian4life

Quote from: fungoman on April 23, 2008, 11:34:11 AM
No one cares about what you guys did 6 years anymore.

Weather might play a factor in the UT Tyler series with moderate chances of rain each day. I hope the rain holds off, because I only have my hotel room for one night.

Ralph, what happens if the games do not get played? Do they have until Monday?

I believe that the rule in the ASC is that all games must be finished by Monday...Last years conference tourney was pushed back due to weather...I know that they almost had to change up the whole tournament in order to fit it in...but I would imagine that since next week is the ASC tourney and not a NCAA tourney they would be able to do what they have to do in order to finish the series.

strosfan1

At the same time you can compare all the season matchups you want with LA college.  I mean look at the NBA playoffs with San Antonio and Phoenix, Phoenix dominated in the regular season and look at it know.  Paul Lo Duca said it best before the NLCA vs. the Cardinals, "you can say what you want about the regular season.  But thats all out the window now."  MARK MY WORD... Upsets are going to happen this weekend and do not be surprised if its in 2 or 3 of the series'

CUAfan

I figure the series winners will be Texas-Tyler, McMurry, Ozarks (they are a 30-win team and CTX has pitching issues), and UMHB (I'm just not that high on MC). The last two of those would be upsets in the sense that a lower seed would defeat a higher one. I don't know that you can call it an upset if Ozarks wins though.
Let's go 'Nados!