BB: ODAC: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[h-sc bball]

usasac/odac series to date

usasac 33-10, .767

Bridgewater     0-4
Eastern Men    0-5
Emory Henry    0-4
Guilford           0-5
H-Sydney        2-5
Lynchburg       4-4
R- Macon        2-2
Roanoke         0-4
VWC               3-1
Wash & Lee     0-0
                    11-34 
                        ouch

[A.G.]

Ouch...that smarts.

[George Foster]

Neighborgall can't locate a FB, much less a secondary pitch.

2-3 more pitches?  Let's see...that would mean they have a FB, CU, CB and a slider...I've played the game and most DI pitchers have 2 pitches and work on a 3rd (meaning they don't have command of it).  Our staff was pretty good (Top 10 in country ERA) and our #1 (LHP) had FB, CU and flat CB; #2 (RHP) had FB, CU, CB; #3 (RHP) had FB, slider.

Listen. There is a very big gap between D-3 and D-1 pitching. I've met many a men that can throw lower 90's, I've also watched many a men that throw lower 90's picking thier tits up off the mound.

I've seen a kid throw 82 and get everyone out. Setting there and saying "Hey they got 3 kids pumping 85-90, therefore they have a deep staff" is a ridiclious way to look at the true effectiveness of a pitching staff.

Also I'm sure the guys you played with had a fastball with nasty tail and a knee bending slider. All I'm saying is you throw a UNC jersey on any D-3 pitcher throwing 85-90 and let him see what he has against the D-1 boys. He'll come back tail between his legs. Remember D-3 picthers face D-3 hitters and D-1 pitchers face D-1 hitters.

To me, even comparing D-1 pitching to D-3 is ridiclious. There is no comparison.

Oh yeah, I played the game. If that makes my argument anymore valid. 

[Pat Coleman]

give me a guy who can locate, change speeds and work fast 8 days a week

Any guy who can work fast eight days a week is worth having.

[VW-16]

Listen. There is a very big gap between D-3 and D-1 pitching. I've met many a men that can throw lower 90's, I've also watched many a men that throw lower 90's picking thier tits up off the mound.

I've seen a kid throw 82 and get everyone out. Setting there and saying "Hey they got 3 kids pumping 85-90, therefore they have a deep staff" is a ridiclious way to look at the true effectiveness of a pitching staff.

Also I'm sure the guys you played with had a fastball with nasty tail and a knee bending slider. All I'm saying is you throw a UNC jersey on any D-3 pitcher throwing 85-90 and let him see what he has against the D-1 boys. He'll come back tail between his legs. Remember D-3 picthers face D-3 hitters and D-1 pitchers face D-1 hitters.

To me, even comparing D-1 pitching to D-3 is ridiclious. There is no comparison.

Oh yeah, I played the game. If that makes my argument anymore valid. 

I think we need to be a little more careful in comparing Division 1 and Division 3. Yes there is a disparity between your top tier D1's vs. D3 however not all D1's have UNC calliber staff's. Also after coaching in the Coastal Plains league I would argue that the division 2 and 3 players had just as much if not more success in getting out "division 1" hitters. Yeah I know it's not the Cape but there was representation from major division 1 programs

[Bostonian]

 "All I'm saying is you throw a UNC jersey on any D-3 pitcher throwing 85-90 and let him see what he has against the D-1 boys. He'll come back tail between his legs."

You could replace "D-3" with 60% of D-I pitchers...only the top guys at mid and low major Div. I's could have success in the ACC, SEC, or PAC-10...

[yank52]

what an insult to Billy Wagner, he was a D3 pitcher!!!!
your mindset is all wrong, it is the athlete that utilizes the natural talent they have.
Most D1's I have seen throw nothing but heat with a poor change up.
That is why they don't become pros, they are would be the same in any level.

[redbird5]

To me, even comparing D-1 pitching to D-3 is ridiclious. There is no comparison.

Ummmm...you were the one who started the comparison.  All I said was velocity-wise...there aren't many staffs who have 4-5 kids who throw 85+.

And no....our pitchers did not have a lot of armside run...they had command of their 2nd pitch and could pitch backwards to any hitter in any count.  The guy with the dirtiest stuff (90+ mph FB & nasty slider) was a 1st round draft pick.

There is a difference between DI and DIII...let's just leave it at that.  I am sorry I even mentioned it.

To recap, VWC will get shelled and their staff sucks with flat FBs and no secondary pitches.  Good luck hitting them.

[h-sc bball]

I just received word that H-SC took both games from Bridgewater  6-3 & 4-3...a pair of big wins away from home. I'll follow up with details once I receive them.

[h-sc bball]

John Apperson's 3 run homer in the 3rd gave H-SC a 5-3 lead as Larry Green held Bridgewater scoreless the rest of the way as the Tigers took game one. Apperson and Luke Swiney both had two hits for the Tigers.

In games two, H-SC received another solid pitching performance from Jr Daniel Hadra as the Tigers pulled off another ralley when the Tigers scored 4 in the 6th to comeback from a 3 run deficit. Fr Ryan Daniels 2 out double knock in the winning run. Hadra pitched 8 innings in the victory...Fr Robbie Bailey pitched a 1,2,3 ninth and recorded 2 strikeouts. The Tigers improved their record to 12-11...6-2 in the ODAC.

[A.G.]

LC dropped both games of the twinbill @ W&L today.  W&L improves to 7-3 in the ODAC, while LC falls to 5-3.  LC returns to action hosting Methodist on Weds and hosts RMC in an ODAC DH on Saturday.

[ash]

Guilford split with Emory and Henry yesterday.  Losing the first game 7-2 and winning the second game 18-11.  This brings Guilford's overall records to 7-16 and 1-8 in the ODAC.

Game 1: http://www.ehc.edu/scores/2007/03/2007032508431318/ehcgc1.html

Game 2: http://www.ehc.edu/scores/2007/03/2007032508434970/ehcgc2.html

[VW-16]

The Marlins swept EMU yesterday to put them at 7-1 in conference play. More tough out of conference games ahead which should help for tourney preparations.
Oh yeah, David Imperato has had a few outings lately...looks like they are trying to build his pitch count slowly so he can possibly throw a tournament game.

Looks like the Adam Hall kid for the Wasps gives them a good chance to win providing they catch the ball behind him.

Nice sweeps for W&L and HSC yesterday.

Anyone have insight to what's going on with Bridgewater...heard they may have lost Jimmy Greene for the year, ouch.

[h-sc bball]

Hampden-Sydney drop another non-conference game today. Chase Townsend 3 hits lead Mary Washington to a 6-2 victory over the Tigers. Josh Michaels lead the Tigers with 3 hits and Todd Harrell added two. Soph Hall Toledano took the loss for the Tigers. The lost evened their record at 12-12.

@ Shenandoah Wed and Ferrum @ home on Thursday.

[hothands]

Great weekend of ODAC ball, especially for H-SC. Big series sweep over Bridgewater. Hadra and Greene are really becoming a force in the conference.

Same for W&L.

But, it looks like VWC is running away with it. They had a big win today over Averett from the USA South as well.

How did Whigham not recieve pitcher of the week laurels?