BB: ODAC: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[ash]

Guilford fell to methodist today by a score of 10-6.  This bring Guilford to a 7-17 record.

http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/baseball/2007%20Stats/mub0327.htm

[allsky7]

what an insult to Billy Wagner, he was a D3 pitcher!!!!
your mindset is all wrong, it is the athlete that utilizes the natural talent they have.
Most D1's I have seen throw nothing but heat with a poor change up.
That is why they don't become pros, they are would be the same in any level.

     I'm sure Billy is crying all the way to the bank!! 

     My understanding is that BW was a late bloomer. He "only" threw in the 80's in college. Seems like I read that somewhere. I never could figure out how he got overlooked by larger schools.  8)

[Spence]

what an insult to Billy Wagner, he was a D3 pitcher!!!!
your mindset is all wrong, it is the athlete that utilizes the natural talent they have.
Most D1's I have seen throw nothing but heat with a poor change up.
That is why they don't become pros, they are would be the same in any level.

     I'm sure Billy is crying all the way to the bank!! 

     My understanding is that BW was a late bloomer. He "only" threw in the 80's in college. Seems like I read that somewhere. I never could figure out how he got overlooked by larger schools.  8)

The rural legend (can't have an urban legend in downstate Virginia!) is that Wagner went to Ferrum as a righthander that threw in the 80s, hurt himself and started throwing with his left hand and lo' and behold, he could throw like 100 left-handed.

That's the legend I heard when I used to live down that way...question is this. Does anyone know if it's true?

[George Foster]

I always heard that about Wagner too. On Wikipedia (I know not a great source) it says it happened in his youth and not in college.

[ash]

There is a quote from Wagner on Ferrums website that says: "I'm right handed but pitch left-handed. When I was a kid, I broke my right arm twice. While it was broken I still wanted to pitch so I just started using my left hand and it stuck."

I take that as before college, but I guess there are still many "kids" in college.

Quote pulled from http://www.ferrum.edu/news/ArchivePreMay02/billy.htm

[Spence]

Thanks for that.

I've heard other reasons for how Wagner wound up at Ferrum, so the arm thing may very well have been before he got there.

[h-sc bball]

Hampden-Sydney defeated Shenandoah by a score of 6-1. David Toney hit a 3 run homer in the 6th to give the Tigers a 4-1 lead. H-S added 2 more runs in the 9th. Toney, J Michaels and T Harrell had 2 hits each. Fr Robbie Bailey really showed he can pitch in the 3 spot for the Tigers with his 2nd start and victory. fr John Hobart pitched the 7th, 8th, & 9th and recorded his 4th save of the year. The Tigers improve to 13-12.

Not sure if the weather is going to hold up for the home contest with Ferrum tomorrow afternoon.

[George Foster]

Thanks for that.

I've heard other reasons for how Wagner wound up at Ferrum, so the arm thing may very well have been before he got there.

I'm sure one of the reasons wasn't the nightlife or social life in Rocky Mount, VA. That place has a Kroger and an Applebees and that's about it. Oh yeah and some cows and hills. It's a visually alright place but if you want to go do something it's not your cup of tea.

[Spence]

Never been there. That it has an Applebees surprises me...and makes it better than Ada, OH

[Catfishncwc]

what an insult to Billy Wagner, he was a D3 pitcher!!!!
your mindset is all wrong, it is the athlete that utilizes the natural talent they have.
Most D1's I have seen throw nothing but heat with a poor change up.
That is why they don't become pros, they are would be the same in any level.

     I'm sure Billy is crying all the way to the bank!! 

     My understanding is that BW was a late bloomer. He "only" threw in the 80's in college. Seems like I read that somewhere. I never could figure out how he got overlooked by larger schools.  8)

If by late bloomer you mean he showed up to Ferrum in the fall as a kid throwing in the 80's but then his Freshman year in the spring he was throwing 94.  According to Mike Fox who was my coach my first year at NCWC he was throwing 94 as a freshman. 

[Spence]

what an insult to Billy Wagner, he was a D3 pitcher!!!!
your mindset is all wrong, it is the athlete that utilizes the natural talent they have.
Most D1's I have seen throw nothing but heat with a poor change up.
That is why they don't become pros, they are would be the same in any level.

     I'm sure Billy is crying all the way to the bank!! 

     My understanding is that BW was a late bloomer. He "only" threw in the 80's in college. Seems like I read that somewhere. I never could figure out how he got overlooked by larger schools.  8)

If by late bloomer you mean he showed up to Ferrum in the fall as a kid throwing in the 80's but then his Freshman year in the spring he was throwing 94.  According to Mike Fox who was my coach my first year at NCWC he was throwing 94 as a freshman. 

Or maybe he came in throwing 94 and left throwing 100

[h-sc bball]

Hampden-Sydney defeated Ferrum this afternoon 8-7 in 10 innings...another comback win by the Tigers after trailing 6-0 heading into the bottom of the 6th they scored 3 runs after 2 outs with a Luke Swiney bases loaded double. The Tigers scored 4 more in the 7th with some timely hitting and won the game in  the bottom of the 10 when the Tigers once again put runners on base after 2 outs and Luke Swiney knocked in the winning run with a single to left field. Swiney had 3 hits and 4 rbis . The 7th, 8th and 9th batters in the Tiger line E Roger, P Santos, and Denale each added 2 hits and scored 6 runs between them. Walton had 5 hits for Ferrum. Fr Tyler Napier pick up the victory. Ferrum had 14 hits, 9 walks, 8 stolen bases and left 16 men on base...when things are going good for you  well right know H-SC has won 5 of their lst 6.

[A.G.]

LC and R-MC rained out Sat...will make up the games 1 PM Monday at LC.

[VW-16]

Anybody have updates from today's action in the ODAC. VWC and Bridgewater were supposed to hook up at the beach. It doesn't matter who comes in with what record when those 2 get together...usually a very intense hard fought series.

[allsky7]

what an insult to Billy Wagner, he was a D3 pitcher!!!!
your mindset is all wrong, it is the athlete that utilizes the natural talent they have.
Most D1's I have seen throw nothing but heat with a poor change up.
That is why they don't become pros, they are would be the same in any level.

     I'm sure Billy is crying all the way to the bank!! 

     My understanding is that BW was a late bloomer. He "only" threw in the 80's in college. Seems like I read that somewhere. I never could figure out how he got overlooked by larger schools.  8)

If by late bloomer you mean he showed up to Ferrum in the fall as a kid throwing in the 80's but then his Freshman year in the spring he was throwing 94.  According to Mike Fox who was my coach my first year at NCWC he was throwing 94 as a freshman. 

     Perhaps late bloomer enough to get overlooked by larger schools in HS. I was a late bloomer too. In HS, I could break a window pane on a good day with my fastball. In college I could break them pretty much every time.