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Barber Greene

Warhawks lose 11-1 in seven...congrats on an unexpectedly successful (in my view) season

OshDude

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?
Point taken. Then the Salisbury Regional would be?:
Salisbury
NCWC
Shenandoah
Hopkins
York
Washington and Lee

Looks OK to me. Lotta ins, lotta outs once you get to bracketing.

d3baseballnut

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?

Ralph Turner

Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.

d3baseballnut

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.

If they were to go the route of sending a Midwest team to the central to be a #2 seed, I could really only see them sending St. Olaf, or UWSP. If Luther wins, I could see them as a #2 seed. THey have played very well lately.

OshDude

Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.

If they were to go the route of sending a Midwest team to the central to be a #2 seed, I could really only see them sending St. Olaf, or UWSP. If Luther wins, I could see them as a #2 seed. THey have played very well lately.
Otterbein, if in and if needed, can (barely) bus to Rock Island.

ShineTime

Congrats Point on winning the tourney once again.  I know I had stated those three guys were out but I was told that by a VERY RELIABLE source but am not going to name names on here and get anyone in trouble.  I wonder who is going to win the Conference tourney next year?  Let me guess Point.  They do return 8 out of 9 offensive starters and I'm guessing Kakwitch will be at 2nd.  Is Berry a Junior or senior?  I seen him listed as a Senior on the program but a parent told me he has another year of eligibility.  Is this true?  I sure hope so as Point would be sitting really good for next year.  However, after seeing what Oshkosh and Whitewater had to go through this year anything can happen injury wise or guys not joining.  I really think Koback will be a stud on the mound next year for Point.  I'm not saying Zimmerman dominating but I think very close.  He was already topping out at 92 this year and should have better command next year being a year older and I'm sure he will be working hard this summer.  If Delorit adds 2-3 mph on his fastball it certainly wouldn't hurt him.  He's really come on lately.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:53:41 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: d3baseballnut on May 09, 2009, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2009, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
Capt. Obvious here, but the Oshkosh and Augie regionals have to be filled with 12 teams. The NCAA isn't too keen on flights, and there are plenty of those accounted for already. Unless Mideast teams fill in the gaps in Illinois, I think the WIAC, MIAC and CCIW get two teams. Then a flight for a team that can go anywhere (Millsaps/Hendrix) will fill out one of the regions. The wrench: the IIAC could snag a Pool C ahead of the CCIW or WIAC. The MIAC seems like a lock for two bids.

Probably jumping the gun with many games yet to be played, but that's my hunch right now.

EDIT: Forgot about Wash U, so it might come down to IIAC #2 vs. WIAC #2 vs. CCIW #2 for two spots. I still think one of those southern teams flies up here.

Why not fly both Hendrix and Millsaps to the Midwest and Central?

Ralph, I think Hendrix will fly to the central. I dont share your thought about Millsaps though. Although the central lacks a solid #2 seed, who could be the #2 seed in the south if Millsaps left?
In that part of the NCAA that gets flown wherever the committee needs to fly someone, I shouldn't be surprised when the NCAA ships someone anywhere.  Central bracket doesn't have a good #2.

There are other bracketologists who know the budget/finance nuances of this better than I, so I will defer to them.  However, Shenandoah was #3 seed in the final South Region rankings that we saw.

FWIW, why not keep Millsaps in the Central time zone?   ;D

Does the committee need to move a strong Midwest Region team out of that region as a #2 Central Region team?

Hendrix is a good #5 or #6 seed.

If they were to go the route of sending a Midwest team to the central to be a #2 seed, I could really only see them sending St. Olaf, or UWSP. If Luther wins, I could see them as a #2 seed. THey have played very well lately.
Otterbein, if in and if needed, can (barely) bus to Rock Island.
Hey dude, you got 10 miles spare!  File that one away!

Ralph Turner


BoBo

Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2009, 02:38:23 AM
Congratulations, UWW

Yes, a big pat on the back for the Warhawks - and a #3 seed at that...I really didn't see that coming!!   :o   ;)
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

Barber Greene

Quote from: BoBo on May 11, 2009, 08:01:49 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2009, 02:38:23 AM
Congratulations, UWW

Yes, a big pat on the back for the Warhawks - and a #3 seed at that...I really didn't see that coming!!   :o   ;)


File under "Stranger Things Have Happened"....Good luck to the Warhawks and to the Pointers!

cubs

Quote from: ShineTime on May 09, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
I would have to agree with that.  Oshkosh has the best facilities and certainly has done well with recruiting especially this year.  To me they have a huge advantage with their history of great players but it appears more kids are wanting to go to Point and Whitewater now.  I think it's time for Oshkosh to go in a different direction as much as I know some people love Lechnir.  I personally like him as a coach and his style but I've spoken to hundreds of people about it and I would say the majority don't like playing for him.
And how many of those "hundreds of people" that you talked to actually played for him? 

One of your hometown Manawa boys is actually an assistant coach for him now, so I doubt he would be coaching with him if he didn't like playing for him.

I'm not sure why I am even bothering to respond to your comments though, as you lost pretty much ANY credibility you had this season with your rants about Point..... ::)
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

cubs

Quote from: OshDude on May 09, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
The outcome was disappointing, but I hope that crew is back for another shot next year. And I agree that UWO will not play another game this year.
They are definitely going to have to find some pitching if they want to win on a more consistent basis...  They will return nearly their entire line-up, but will still be lacking in the pitching department.

OF-Sebesta, Helland, N. Fadness
IF-Berger, Eichstaedt, Jirschele, Kannenberg
C-Hirsoskey
DH-?

Fosler and Wetenkamp end up being the pieces that need to be replaced, only because Demmin missed 2/3 of the season as it was.
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

ShineTime

If I remember correctly Gerl also quit for one season because he couldn't take Lechnir riding him about everything.  He rejoined the team because he loves baseball not because he likes Lechnir.  Who wouldn't take the opportunity to be first base coach for a D3 program?  I would do it even if I didn't agree with how Lechnir runs the show.  Let's face it Lechnir cares about himself and himself only.  It's proven by the way he uses his pitching staff.  It's not safe to throw a guy 4 innings one game and 9 the next.  That's not baseball!!  I actually do know a lot of people that played for Oshkosh and the majority didn't have much good to say about Lechnir's style.