BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[ShineTime]

Point and Whitewater split in conference games but Whitewater went 4-0 in no conference games. I'm not sure but believe it may be due to Whitewater losing to Eau Claire and Point losing to Stout with Stout finishing higher in conference.

[cubs]

Speaking of UWW and UWSP, does anyone know why UWSP is the #1 seed and UWW #2 in the WIAC tournament?  Not a big issue, just curious, since I thought head-to-head record was the first tie breaker used.  Both teams very impressive!

Head-to-head is the first tiebreaker, and the teams split their four WIAC games (the NC games aren't part of the tiebreaker.)

Next tiebreaker is record against opponents in order of final standings...  Since La Crosse finished in 3rd place, they are the first team to look at and Stevens Point went 4-0 against the Eagles while Whitewater went 3-1.  That in turn meant Stevens Point earned the #1 seed while Whitewater gets the #2 seed.

[cubs]

Point and Whitewater split in conference games but Whitewater went 4-0 in no conference games. I'm not sure but believe it may be due to Whitewater losing to Eau Claire and Point losing to Stout with Stout finishing higher in conference.

Nope....  The loss to Eau Claire wouldn't even come into the picture until after La Crosse, Stout, Oshkosh, and Platteville were looked at.

See above for the breakdown....

[sconsin fan]

Head-to-head is the first tiebreaker, and the teams split their four WIAC games (the NC games aren't part of the tiebreaker.)

Next tiebreaker is record against opponents in order of final standings...  Since La Crosse finished in 3rd place, they are the first team to look at and Stevens Point went 4-0 against the Eagles while Whitewater went 3-1.  That in turn meant Stevens Point earned the #1 seed while Whitewater gets the #2 seed.

Thank you - mystery solved - makes perfect sense to me now.

[cubs]

Is this the best pointer offense since Jordan Zimmerman's freshman year or is the competition not all that great? Sure looks like Simmons, Nelson, and Comer are one of the top 2-4 hitters in the nation.

If the Pointer offense is as strong as you claim, I don't think we would have seen today's result....  They were shutout and held to four hits against a pitcher who saw opponents hit .345 against him this season entering today.

Oh, and the 15-0 "mercy rule" loss to the #4 seed might answer your question as to why the voters had Stevens Point unranked this season...

[ShineTime]

They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.

[cubs]

They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.

With Stevens Point being ranked #6 in the latest Midwest Regional Rankings, and there only being six Pool B/C bids this year, the only way they are making the Regionals this year is by winning three straight Saturday and Sunday against Stout and Whitewater.
You already have the #1 ranked team in the West (Trinity, TX) likely claiming on of those six bids, and the #4 team in the South (Berry) also losing out on their Pool A bid puts them in the conversation as well.

When a quarter of your wins (8) are against a team that went 0-37, it does a number on your SOS, especially in a year like this where there weren't any Spring Trips to see some of those usual inter-region match-ups.  When you look at it from an intra-region aspect, it's possible the #1 (St. Thomas) and #3 (Gustavus Adolphus) will also be looking for one of those precious few Pool C bids too, as St. Thomas needs to beat St. Mary's twice tomorrow to secure the MIAC Tournament crown.  You also could be looking at having the #2 and #3 Central Region teams (North Central and Augustana) in the Pool C conversation as well, as Augustana was already eliminated from the CCIW tournament and North Central is in the same position as Stevens Point in needing to win three straight to win the Pool A bid.

Again, it's Pool A or nothing for Stevens Point....  You can bet the farm on it!

[badgerwarhawk]

They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.

They aren't even the best offense top to bottom in the league let alone the country.  Nationally Point's offense, top to bottom, ranks 131st in BA, WW is 2nd and LaCrosse is 18th.  In total hits WW leads the nation and LaCrosse is 2nd.  Point is tied for 54th.  In runs scored LaCrosse is tied for 2nd, WW is 6th and Point is 44th.  Aside from your myopic bias what criteria have you used because I can't find any that would support what you've suggested.  I give Point credit for their turnaround this season. My understanding is that private money has made the coaching position full time.  No teaching just recruit and coach.  That will be significant.   

[hockeyfan77]

They at least came back and pounded a good LaCrosse team and put up 12 runs. If they beat Stout tomorrow and then lose to Whitewater i don't see any way a 32 win UWSP team doesn't make regionals. Is the Stout loss today embarrassing and a huge blow yes absolutely but even with mediocre pitching I wouldn't want To face the Pointers with that lineup. Has to be the best offense in all of d3 top to bottom no easy outs.

With Stevens Point being ranked #6 in the latest Midwest Regional Rankings, and there only being six Pool B/C bids this year, the only way they are making the Regionals this year is by winning three straight Saturday and Sunday against Stout and Whitewater.
You already have the #1 ranked team in the West (Trinity, TX) likely claiming on of those six bids, and the #4 team in the South (Berry) also losing out on their Pool A bid puts them in the conversation as well.

When a quarter of your wins (8) are against a team that went 0-37, it does a number on your SOS, especially in a year like this where there weren't any Spring Trips to see some of those usual inter-region match-ups.  When you look at it from an intra-region aspect, it's possible the #1 (St. Thomas) and #3 (Gustavus Adolphus) will also be looking for one of those precious few Pool C bids too, as St. Thomas needs to beat St. Mary's twice tomorrow to secure the MIAC Tournament crown.  You also could be looking at having the #2 and #3 Central Region teams (North Central and Augustana) in the Pool C conversation as well, as Augustana was already eliminated from the CCIW tournament and North Central is in the same position as Stevens Point in needing to win three straight to win the Pool A bid.

Again, it's Pool A or nothing for Stevens Point....  You can bet the farm on it!

Also you cannot forget the #1 seed in New England Eastern Conn with a 32-6 record getting a pool "C" bid....4 of those 6 losses came to the #2 seed USM who got the pool A: they also beat USM 3 times as well

[ShineTime]

What a bummer that UWSP isn't going to make regionals given their record and the wealth of talent they have. They would undoubtedly win 5 of the 8 projected regionals on d3 baseballs projections.

[hockeyfan77]

What a bummer that UWSP isn't going to make regionals given their record and the wealth of talent they have. They would undoubtedly win 5 of the 8 projected regionals on d3 baseballs projections.

LOL, out of curiosity which ones? 

[badgerwarhawk]

What a bummer that UWSP isn't going to make regionals given their record and the wealth of talent they have. They would undoubtedly win 5 of the 8 projected regionals on d3 baseballs projections.

You'd have been better off to just remain silent like you have all season than to come out with some of the nonsense you've spouted in the past week or so.           

Love the "undoubtedly" thing.   

[PauldingLightUP]

Interesting no spectator limits in Whitewater this weekend, but there were last weekend.

[KitchenSink]

2nd day in a row stupidly sending a starter out in the ninth with nothing. 130+ pitches, giving the games away.

[Ralph Turner]

2nd day in a row stupidly sending a starter out in the ninth with nothing. 130+ pitches, giving the games away.

Pacific relieved their starter to begin the 6th leading, 4-1. The reliever gives up 4 runs on 4 hits with no outs in a 5-run St Thomas 6th.