BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Gustie13 · April 24, 2008, 10:21:50 PM

Quote from: BRONKO7 on April 24, 2008, 12:45:06 PM
If he was as dead at the plate as others have made it sound, by rule the runner has to make the effort to avoid the contact. Obviously there is intent to dislodge the ball from the catcher through contact. So the umpire was right in calling him out and ejecting Fadness.
As for running the catcher in my opinion bring it on, as most catchers will tell you. It's part of the game and I understand the NCAA wanting to protect kids but there is a lot of emotions running in these types of games and the fact that you cant run the catcher creates a situation like the one at Oshkosh. If running the catcher was a legal play, people expect it to happen and do not react by rushing the field.
The whole issue with fans is absurd, the visiting squad is always going to take the heat. Remember its 75% the home teams parents, alums and fans. If this was at Stevens Point we'd be hearing it from there side.

As a former catcher, i'd have to disagree with this statement. I knew the rule was that people had to slide, so I never considered getting plowed in a MIAC game. Now, in my MN Amateur games, where plowing the catcher is legal, I was prepared for it and knew how to handle it. But this is D3 baseball and the rules are no plowing.
I've seen and been involved in enough "4 step head start late slides" to know they are bush and probably malicious. A good hard slide happens in a bang bang play which this was not, from all accounts. If you're toast by 5 feet, you're toast, and the rules are written such that you can't take out your frustrations on the catcher. If you disagree with that, go stand 5 feet away from me and let me take my frustrations out on you with a pair of metal cleats on and see how it feels.

szlongball · April 24, 2008, 10:42:04 PM

Thanks Gustie13 for your take on the issue.

BaseballFan · April 25, 2008, 12:08:36 AM

As a neutral party I think the entire thing is terrible. I know their is some bad blood between UWW, UWO, and STP or at least appears to be. From what Ive heard UWW and STP coaches hate each other. From what Ive noticed at times (not all the time) is that some of these schools dont act with a lot of class. If you compare the WIAC with MIAC it fails in comparison to sportsmanship. Again in my opinion this all stems from the head coaches so until they act more sportsmanlike (profressional) this wont change.

All players should be suspended the standard 3 games (conference) and coaches 1 game. I think the WIAC is a very talented and well coached conference but they need to class it up some.

janesvilleflash · April 25, 2008, 01:24:39 AM

I think they should have a rule that everyone gets to play. Good grief.

Gustie13 · April 25, 2008, 08:17:02 AM

Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 25, 2008, 01:24:39 AM
I think they should have a rule that everyone gets to play. Good grief.

Yeah, equal playing time!

cubs · April 25, 2008, 09:16:53 AM

Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......

WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he'll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers' catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he'll review a T-V station's video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.

Just Bill · April 25, 2008, 01:36:54 PM

Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......

WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he'll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers' catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he'll review a T-V station's video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.

Do you have a link? What's the source?

cubs · April 25, 2008, 01:50:46 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 01:36:54 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 25, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
Came across this as I was surfing the net this morning......
WIAC Commissioner Gary Karner says he'll review a bench-clearing incident during a baseball game Wednesday between U-W Oshkosh and Stevens Point. It happened in the fifth inning of a double-header night-cap, when Nolan Fadness of Oshkosh collided with Pointers' catcher Garret Bloom on a play at the plate. Bloom took issue with the way Fadness slid, and he started following the runner to his dug-out after the play. Words were exchanged, and both benches cleared. Two players from each team were ejected. Karner says he'll review a T-V station's video of the incident, and decide if anyone will be punished. N-C-A-A rules call for a three-game suspension for players ejected for fighting.
Do you have a link? What's the source?

You'll have to click on the sports link on the left side of the page....

http://www.wrpnam.com/

Just Bill · April 25, 2008, 03:12:45 PM

Thanks!

Here's another article. No new information.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=743461

OshDude · April 25, 2008, 05:31:54 PM

Thanks, Cubs +1.
Correct me here, but it was Warwick and not Bloom who was the second Pointer ejected, right?

cubs · April 25, 2008, 05:35:10 PM

Quote from: OshDude on April 25, 2008, 05:31:54 PM
Thanks, Cubs +1.
Correct me here, but it was Warwick and not Bloom who was the second Pointer ejected, right?

Yes, you are correct.... Due to Warwick's ejection, Point had to put seldom used Steve Considine behind the plate after Bloom's injury.

OshDude · April 25, 2008, 05:41:12 PM

In a bit of trivia (I hope

), Gary Karner is the chair of the Midwest Region ranking committee. There are only four people on said committee. One is Illinois College head coach Jay Eckhouse and one is Augsburg HC Keith Bateman. The other is ... Stevens Point HC Pat Bloom.

Just thought I'd throw that out there for your consideration. Gotta love Midwest baseball. Lotta ins, a lotta outs and a lotta what-have-yous.

Just Bill · April 25, 2008, 05:44:40 PM

If Bloom is hurt and Warwick is suspeneded, might Doug Coe have to catch? Is his knee cleared to do that?

OshDude · April 25, 2008, 05:50:04 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on April 25, 2008, 05:44:40 PM
If Bloom is hurt and Warwick is suspeneded, might Doug Coe have to catch? Is his knee cleared to do that?

I think so unless he recently tweaked something. Coe caught both ends of the DH against UWO in "round one," two Wednesdays ago.

szlongball · April 26, 2008, 11:06:18 AM

Hey BadgerWarhawk-got a question for you. How does WW get to play in the dome so much? Do they know someone or just have a lot of cash in their program?
Point/Stout games cancelled for today, and I can't see the weather improving in the next couple of days. Games have to be played and would think playing at the dome would make sense. If you know the answer, thanks, if not, that's okay too.