BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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BigPoppa

Very true! I was offered many partial scholarships that still would have made it more expensive than in-state tuition at a WIAC school. With all that being said, I still chose Carthage and its private school tuition over the WIAC schools. (I will be paying off my Carthage loans for many years to come, but I would not have it any other way).
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

janesvilleflash

If you can't ignore an insult, top it; if you can't top it, laugh it off; and if you can't laugh it off, it's probably deserved.

BigPoppa

Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Slinger45

Quote from: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.

janesvilleflash

Quote from: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.

Did you happen to know my man, Hank Johnson?
If you can't ignore an insult, top it; if you can't top it, laugh it off; and if you can't laugh it off, it's probably deserved.

OshDude

Quote from: Slinger45 on December 03, 2008, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
I believe it. I believed it when I heard it last spring, and I believed after seeing you pitch.

I blew out my shoulder the summer after my senior year, wasting a partial. I didn't even have options after that. College baseball's funny that way, especially when you're not a HS All-American or something similar, nationally, that also sounds good.

Of course I've mostly heard from men and women who made the D-I to D-III move and only one D-III to D-I (a female sprinter). I knew those athletes were all in D-III for a reason, but I was amazed by the small variance of those reasons. I can only think of one guy's primary motivating factor being something other than shades of what I wrote before – this one athlete missed his family, which was like 1,800 miles away if I remember correctly.

BigPoppa

Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 11:43:57 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on December 03, 2008, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 03, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
Not that it's any of my business, but why?

I was just much more comfortable at a smaller school and was given a chance to play every day as a freshman. It provided a quality education and I was very comfortable with the coaching staff at Carthage.

Did you happen to know my man, Hank Johnson?

I attended Carthage from 1993-96. Not sure when Hank was there?
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.

Slinger45

Quote from: OshDude on December 04, 2008, 12:02:37 AM
Quote from: Slinger45 on December 03, 2008, 09:50:58 PM
Quote from: OshDude on December 03, 2008, 12:26:46 AM
Quote from: BaseballFan on December 01, 2008, 10:25:02 PM
Yea i dont know if I believe a freshman was hitting 92/93. Every high schooler i knew that hit 90+ was either drafted or D1 or both. Guess i will just have to see it to believe it
MLB will find players anywhere, if that's the player's goal. Probably won't be a Boras client with a lot of zeros on the first contract, but in D-III you'll get scouted/drafted.
I've spoken with several D-I to D-III transfers (not all baseball players, but a few). The most common reason was D-I took the fun out of playing. I heard "It was like a job" quite often. And if it's a partial scholarship, like most sports, I've heard "It just wasn't worth it" a lot. If the athletes are from Wisconsin, WIAC tuition is usually less than D-I tuition with a partial.

As hard as it may be for you to believe there OshDude I went to UWM on a scholarship out of HS, I didnt like it there and basically what you said, I didnt think it was worth it being unhappy to just stay because of the scholarship and that it was a D1 school. 
While I agree it was like a job, I have time imagining that the other WIAC schools dont have a lot going on, the amount of things we do at UWS (practice, conditioning, weight lifting, etc) are the exact same as UWM, but Ive heard about other schools where theres more.
I believe it. I believed it when I heard it last spring, and I believed after seeing you pitch.

I blew out my shoulder the summer after my senior year, wasting a partial. I didn't even have options after that. College baseball's funny that way, especially when you're not a HS All-American or something similar, nationally, that also sounds good.

Of course I've mostly heard from men and women who made the D-I to D-III move and only one D-III to D-I (a female sprinter). I knew those athletes were all in D-III for a reason, but I was amazed by the small variance of those reasons. I can only think of one guy's primary motivating factor being something other than shades of what I wrote before – this one athlete missed his family, which was like 1,800 miles away if I remember correctly.

Haha well I was just givin ya a hard time Osh, but yeah I dont have to tell you about shoulders injuries.

cubs

UW-Oshkosh receives a bid to host the Midwest Regionals once again this season. 

Looks like EJ Schneider will get a makeover once again when the month of May rolls around.
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

OshDude

Quote from: cubs on December 05, 2008, 05:04:34 PM
UW-Oshkosh receives a bid to host the Midwest Regionals once again this season. 

Looks like EJ Schneider will get a makeover once again when the month of May rolls around.
Hope the makeover starts with new stands and an enclosed press box. One of these years someone's gonna get hurt on the third base bleachers. And calling games under parasols and covering your boards with garbage bags probably isn't fun.

I'll take the field as is, though.

Bronko7

I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Just Bill

Quote from: BRONKO7 on December 08, 2008, 05:18:06 PM
I completely understand needing a field with lights, but the best field in Oshkosh gets used for BP. I don't understand why they don't use the campus field and use EJ if there's rain or night games. Had a chance to see a few games of last years regional and EJ is no friend to lefty's. Not going to complain though, most anything beats the band box in Wisc. Rapids!

Since there's no more 4-team regionals, all the NCAA Regionals require night games. The NCAA won't let you split the regional games between two fields.
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badgerwarhawk

Unfortunately WW's baseball field project had to be postponed to next summer.  Once completed we'll have lights and be bidding for a regional tournament.

In the meantime we've had some success on EJ Schneider diamond and won't mind returning.
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cubs

Quote from: OshDude on December 05, 2008, 11:57:05 PM
I'll take the field as is, though.
As is? 

Not me......

Wasn't EJ where a UWO player took a ball in the face during infield practice at Regionals some years back?  I believe they had to "burn" a redshirt on the guy that ended having to play.

He ended up having a pretty decent career though.....  Aaron Luepke ring a bell?

(Anyone else remember this or is my memory starting to go with old age?)
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

BigPoppa

You are correct sir. Not sure on the year it happened, but I was playing for Carthage at the time, so it had to be between 1993-96. I played tons of high school and legion games at EJ Schneider field. While it is a fantastic high school facility, I think they could do much better for the NCAA regionals. Much of this selection probably has to do with the quality of the event that UW-O hosts and not the quaility of the facility.
Baseball is not a game that builds character, it is a game that reveals it.