BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Just Bill]

Hey I just read an article on how UWSP and St.Thomas will be favored to go the 2010 World Series in Appleton. What do you guys think about this?

Link?

[cubs]

Hey I just read an article on how UWSP and St.Thomas will be favored to go the 2010 World Series in Appleton. What do you guys think about this?

Link?

Check the D3 Baseball front page....  Our very own Oshdude did an article on the Midwest Region, and BigPoppa has done one on the Central Region.  Both GREAT articles!!!!

[OshDude]

Hey I just read an article on how UWSP and St.Thomas will be favored to go the 2010 World Series in Appleton. What do you guys think about this?

Link?

Check the D3 Baseball front page....  Our very own Oshdude did an article on the Midwest Region, and BigPoppa has done one on the Central Region.  Both GREAT articles!!!!

Not so fast! There may be a glaring mistake in the MW preview. I was forwarded an e-mail about a week ago stating the 2010 WIAC tourney will be three teams and double-elimination (still @ the #1 seed). I know it was something some coaches wanted. Some people are just so sloppy with their writing. What would it have taken? One or two phone calls to confirm a fact? No wonder why I can't find a writing job ....

[ballfan55]

So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.

[cubs]

So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.

Where did you see that?

The Midwest Conference was in the Central Region preview on the front page....

[BigPoppa]

So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.

The MWC is a Central Region team. They flipped with the newly formed NathCon last year which moved from the Central to the Midwest.

[cubs]

Not so fast! There may be a glaring mistake in the MW preview. I was forwarded an e-mail about a week ago stating the 2010 WIAC tourney will be three teams and double-elimination (still @ the #1 seed). I know it was something some coaches wanted. Some people are just so sloppy with their writing. What would it have taken? One or two phone calls to confirm a fact? No wonder why I can't find a writing job ....

So lets see how this would look.....

Game #1
#2 vs #3

Game #2
Winner Game #1 vs #1

Game #3
Loser Game #2 vs Loser Game #1  (Loser Eliminated)

Game #4
Winner Game #3 vs Winner Game # 2

Game #5 (If Necessary)
Same as Game #4 (Only needed if Winner Game #2 loses Game #4)

I like this set-up much more than last years set-up!!!!  The single-elimination for the #3 and #4 seeds, and double elimination for the #1 and #2 seeds just didn't seem right.  Now everyone is on the same playing field, and the #1 seed is still rewarded for their regular season with getting to host, and essentially getting a 1st round bye.

[TitanBystander]

Not so fast! There may be a glaring mistake in the MW preview. I was forwarded an e-mail about a week ago stating the 2010 WIAC tourney will be three teams and double-elimination (still @ the #1 seed). I know it was something some coaches wanted. Some people are just so sloppy with their writing. What would it have taken? One or two phone calls to confirm a fact? No wonder why I can't find a writing job ....

So lets see how this would look.....

Game #1
#2 vs #3

Game #2
Winner Game #1 vs #1

Game #3
Loser Game #2 vs Loser Game #1  (Loser Eliminated)

Game #4
Winner Game #3 vs Winner Game # 2

Game #5 (If Necessary)
Same as Game #4 (Only needed if Winner Game #2 loses Game #4)

I like this set-up much more than last years set-up!!!!  The single-elimination for the #3 and #4 seeds, and double elimination for the #1 and #2 seeds just didn't seem right.  Now everyone is on the same playing field, and the #1 seed is still rewarded for their regular season with getting to host, and essentially getting a 1st round bye.

So, if I understand this right, it's possible (and very plausible)  for Seed #2 or Seed #3 to have to play 5 games? 

Game #1:  Seed #2 wins
Game #2: Seed #2 loses to Seed #1
Game #3:  Seed #2 wins over Seed #3 (#3 Eliminated)
Game #4:  Seed 2 beats Seed #1
Game #5:  Rematch for the title....Seed #2's 5th game in a three team tournament! 

I thought the reason that the WIAC moved to a single elimination format was to try to get thigns wrapped up in 1 day thereby decreasing travel costs.  Am I wrong?   

[ballfan55]

So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.

Where did you see that?

The Midwest Conference was in the Central Region preview on the front page....

It was, but then when you go to see what teams are in each Region they show up in Midwest.

[BigPoppa]

So what region is the MWC in....D3 Baseball has them back in the Midwest.

Where did you see that?

The Midwest Conference was in the Central Region preview on the front page....

It was, but then when you go to see what teams are in each Region they show up in Midwest.

I think it is a small clerical error. They may not have moved over on the website from region to region, but they (MWC) are currently in the Central. I'll let Jim know and he can move it when he gets a chance.

[cubs]

So, if I understand this right, it's possible (and very plausible)  for Seed #2 or Seed #3 to have to play 5 games? 

Game #1:  Seed #2 wins
Game #2: Seed #2 loses to Seed #1
Game #3:  Seed #2 wins over Seed #3 (#3 Eliminated)
Game #4:  Seed 2 beats Seed #1
Game #5:  Rematch for the title....Seed #2's 5th game in a three team tournament! 

I thought the reason that the WIAC moved to a single elimination format was to try to get thigns wrapped up in 1 day thereby decreasing travel costs.  Am I wrong?

Would that mean it would have to be a 3-day tournament then? 

I know during the post-season that the NCAA only allows teams to play two games per day, but maybe that only starts with Regional play?

I hadn't heard anything rtegarding the bolded part....  Even last year with the #3 and #4 seeds having single-elimination, it was still a two-day tournament.

[Dagger]

in response to points schedule...it's a typical start of the season for the pointers, being that it is loaded with great teams again.  Hands down the hardest schedule for any team in the midwest.  I think they will be extremely happy with a 12-4 record going into the WIAC portion of their schedule.  I'm going with splits against, olaf, otterbein, and trinity, and then one unexpected loss (in that scenario) in there for good measure.  They could very well come out 10-6 and still be in really good standing in my opinion.  It will be the typical start that will have people doubting the team, because they lost one run games to the best teams in the country, while other WIAC schools go and beat up terrible teams to start out 10-0.  Playing competition like this in the early part of the season is a great thing to do to prepare the team for big games down the road, not to mention it lets you know where your team stands on a national level by going up against the best.  I think 10-6 leaves them in great position heading into conference games and is a very realistic goal, I think anything less than that would be a disappointing start for a team that has high expectations, although I'm hesitant to say that 10-6 or worse would be something that would write them off!  They could very well come back 6-10 and end up just fine in the long run, something that was not uncommon in the years past.  so it's hard to say, I think 10-6 is a good target for them, 12-4 would be a great start, worse than 10-6 would be troublesome but no reason to panic given the past history of poor starts and great finishes.  Time will tell, should be an exciting year for the Dawgs!

[biggio34]

in response to points schedule...it's a typical start of the season for the pointers, being that it is loaded with great teams again.  Hands down the hardest schedule for any team in the midwest.  I think they will be extremely happy with a 12-4 record going into the WIAC portion of their schedule.  I'm going with splits against, olaf, otterbein, and trinity, and then one unexpected loss (in that scenario) in there for good measure.  They could very well come out 10-6 and still be in really good standing in my opinion.  It will be the typical start that will have people doubting the team, because they lost one run games to the best teams in the country, while other WIAC schools go and beat up terrible teams to start out 10-0.  Playing competition like this in the early part of the season is a great thing to do to prepare the team for big games down the road, not to mention it lets you know where your team stands on a national level by going up against the best.  I think 10-6 leaves them in great position heading into conference games and is a very realistic goal, I think anything less than that would be a disappointing start for a team that has high expectations, although I'm hesitant to say that 10-6 or worse would be something that would write them off!  They could very well come back 6-10 and end up just fine in the long run, something that was not uncommon in the years past.  so it's hard to say, I think 10-6 is a good target for them, 12-4 would be a great start, worse than 10-6 would be troublesome but no reason to panic given the past history of poor starts and great finishes.  Time will tell, should be an exciting year for the Dawgs!

The ability to schedule tough competition is one reason why having a conference AQ is soooo nice!  You can schedule the tough teams, get your team ready for conference and playoff competition, and afford to lose some close games to good teams.  I'm not sure why more teams don't take Point's scheduling approach outside of the conference because in the long run it makes them better. Of course Pool B teams need to find a balance in their schedule as they can not afford to be losing games period, but still need a strong schedule to make it in.

[Just Bill]

Love the enthusiasm, but how about we let them (or anybody else in the region) actually play a game first.  If I had a nickel for everytime the most talented team didn't win, I could hire Bill Gates to type this message for me.

[BigPoppa]

Well I stongly agree with both of those posts. Also now that Point has Justin Jirchle and Travis Tuschen (source):
http://www.wissports.net/PLAYGROUND/tm.aspx?&m=1114228&mpage=1

Well now Point is absolutely going to just blowout Oshkosh and Whitewater and the rest of the WIAC teams. So Point is going to the World Sereies. They might not have went since 2006,and 2007, but now that Point is stacked it is going to happen again. They also might not have went last year or in 2008, just as I said before TALENT. And yeas we all know that St.Thomas beat UWSP last year and went on to win the World Series. St.Thomas will not even be a problem for Point this year. If St.Thomas was not in last years Oshkosh regional Point would have went to the World Series last year. But now in the Whitewater regional this year that will be tough for Point if St.Thomas is in that regional. But not as tough as it was last year for the Pointers because now they are completely stacked. If St.Thomas is not in the Whitewater regional then UWSP is deffinetly going to Appleton. It should be interesting in the St.Olaf game at the Metrodome March 9th for the Pointers. Get ready Point you're heading to Appleton.

You are a complete moron. For being a Pointers fan, you have just put the biggest target on their back. Nice work.