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OshDude

Quote from: biggio34 on February 17, 2010, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Dagger on February 17, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
in response to points schedule...it's a typical start of the season for the pointers, being that it is loaded with great teams again.  Hands down the hardest schedule for any team in the midwest.  I think they will be extremely happy with a 12-4 record going into the WIAC portion of their schedule.  I'm going with splits against, olaf, otterbein, and trinity, and then one unexpected loss (in that scenario) in there for good measure.  They could very well come out 10-6 and still be in really good standing in my opinion.  It will be the typical start that will have people doubting the team, because they lost one run games to the best teams in the country, while other WIAC schools go and beat up terrible teams to start out 10-0.  Playing competition like this in the early part of the season is a great thing to do to prepare the team for big games down the road, not to mention it lets you know where your team stands on a national level by going up against the best.  I think 10-6 leaves them in great position heading into conference games and is a very realistic goal, I think anything less than that would be a disappointing start for a team that has high expectations, although I'm hesitant to say that 10-6 or worse would be something that would write them off!  They could very well come back 6-10 and end up just fine in the long run, something that was not uncommon in the years past.  so it's hard to say, I think 10-6 is a good target for them, 12-4 would be a great start, worse than 10-6 would be troublesome but no reason to panic given the past history of poor starts and great finishes.  Time will tell, should be an exciting year for the Dawgs!

The ability to schedule tough competition is one reason why having a conference AQ is soooo nice!  You can schedule the tough teams, get your team ready for conference and playoff competition, and afford to lose some close games to good teams.  I'm not sure why more teams don't take Point's scheduling approach outside of the conference because in the long run it makes them better. Of course Pool B teams need to find a balance in their schedule as they can not afford to be losing games period, but still need a strong schedule to make it in.
I'm still not in awe of Point's schedule. I think I wrote the same thing last year. Trinity and W&J are very good tests (not sold on those Otterbein games being marquee), but they don't mean anything tangible. Outside of the very gutsy St. Olaf DH to open up, there's not much. I'm also with you on the SNC and Ripon games; both should be nice OWP boosters. But I don't think you can judge a schedule on nonregional games. Besides the "measuring stick vs. nationally respected programs" theory, there's not much to those games.

Granted, Point's in-region schedule is tougher than Whitewater's or Oshkosh's, but I don't think it's any tougher than Platteville's. It's definitely not tougher than those of St. Scholastica, Edgewood, Rockford, Aurora, St. Olaf and St. Thomas to name several. Those teams are playing tough games that count. Then again Point's noncons could be DH's vs. the top five teams in the preseason poll and I'd feel the same way.

badgerwarhawk

I don't see any reason to play out the season.  Just give the Pointer the title and let the rest of the WIAC save the money.  Perhaps it could be donated to LaCrosse and save their program. 
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badgerwarhawk

#1937
Jirschele is a nice addition but the WARHAWKS are adding Jeff Donovan and Jordan Stine to the middle of our batting order.  If the two have seasons like the ones they've had in the past that's adding a lot of offense to the batting order.
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Dagger

It will be interesting to see how those two respond to playing again.  I doubt there will be any huge drop off in their numbers from what they have done in the past, but at the same time I don't expect them to be where they were that's for sure.  It's very difficult to sit out a year and come back and be 100%. 

How are the hawks, and any other team for that matter, looking right now???

OshDude

Quote from: cubs on February 10, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist.
I was looking at their 2010 Practice Schedule, and saw the two "DH vs TBA's".  Here is the link:

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/PracticeSchedule.html

If they add those two DH's, that puts them at 42 games...  For some reason I thought 40 games was the maximum that is allowed going into the WIAC Tournament.
Good catch. UWO apparently found two partners for 3/25 – CSS and Augsburg. CSS and Augsburg already had a morning game scheduled for that day.

Problem is, the CSS site has the Saints vs. Augsburg @ 9 a.m. That's the stated time of UWO vs. Augsburg on the Titan site. Who knows what the deal is, but if KT has it on the UWO site, I'm buying it. Maybe Augsburg swapped CSS for UWO. As it stands, the SID sites don't yet match up.

BigPoppa

What would teams in the midwest do without the Metrodome:) ? It honestly allows them to save so much strain on so many arms as they are not forced to play 6-7 games a week like teams without a place to play in early-March do.
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OshDude

#1941
Superior posted its roster. I don't know much about the 10 frosh. Anyone have insights?

Only thing that stuck out to me is no Cale Tassi, but we knew he transferred to UW-Milwaukee. I counted six transfers for the Supers.

badgerwarhawk

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BigPoppa

Does WW have a date for completion this spring? How many games do they expect to play under the new lights before the regional? I cannot think they would have the regional as the debut of their new lights as they often need to be adjusted a bit after installation.  (I only know as my own school is currently installing them as we speak... holes will be drilled and poles sunk this weekend)
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cubs

Quote from: OshDude on February 25, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
Superior posted its roster. I don't know much about the 10 frosh. Anyone have insights?

Only thing that stuck out to me is no Cale Tassi, but we knew he transferred to UW-Milwaukee. I counted six transfers for the Supers.
Have to admit I don't recognize any of the Wisconsin freshmen other than Cody Breitzke who was an Honorable Mention All State selection as a Utility player.
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cubs

Quote from: OshDude on February 25, 2010, 09:03:23 AM
Quote from: cubs on February 10, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
Quote from: OshDude on February 09, 2010, 02:13:36 PM
Thought the UWO schedule was set. Noncons are the four cubs mentioned, Lawrence, St. Norbert and Marian. Am I missing something?

Speaking of skeds, check out Edgewood's if you have not already. Probably the toughest (SOC, UWO, UST, UWSP, UWP) I saw in making the 2010 in-region masterlist.
I was looking at their 2010 Practice Schedule, and saw the two "DH vs TBA's".  Here is the link:

http://www.titans.uwosh.edu/Baseball/PracticeSchedule.html

If they add those two DH's, that puts them at 42 games...  For some reason I thought 40 games was the maximum that is allowed going into the WIAC Tournament.
Good catch. UWO apparently found two partners for 3/25 – CSS and Augsburg. CSS and Augsburg already had a morning game scheduled for that day.

Problem is, the CSS site has the Saints vs. Augsburg @ 9 a.m. That's the stated time of UWO vs. Augsburg on the Titan site. Who knows what the deal is, but if KT has it on the UWO site, I'm buying it. Maybe Augsburg swapped CSS for UWO. As it stands, the SID sites don't yet match up.
I agree!!!  KT is one of the harder working SID's in the business, and if it's posted on-line, then its almost a sure thing.

So nobody ever answered my question....  Is there a 40-game limit for the regular season or am I imagining things?
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CrashDavisD3

#1946
40 Game Limit with some exceptions that allow a team to go over the 40 game limit.

Seems like lawyers write this stuff to have rules and then the exceptions.
Nothing is simple with NCAA rules just like tax laws.

See Page 126 for the NCAA Publication basic rule of 40 games then read
pages 134 & page 135 to understand rule and the exceptions

17.2.5 Number of Contests and Dates of Competition(read entire section)
 
http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/D3_Manual0c5a4b77-4ccc-4eac-9ae3-c634b0afb89a.pdf
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cubs

Thanks Crash!!!

That would then finalize UWO's schedule then, as they are at 40 games.  I like the CSS pick-up, and I would be willing to bet that Kannenberg will be starting that game, as the Titans don't have another game after that for over a week.
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biggio34

Quote from: cubs on February 25, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Thanks Crash!!!

That would then finalize UWO's schedule then, as they are at 40 games.  I like the CSS pick-up, and I would be willing to bet that Kannenberg will be starting that game, as the Titans don't have another game after that for over a week.

Rumor on the street earlier in the week was that UWO was having a hard time finding someone to play them in their last double header in the dome and CSS and Augsburg were open to making a switch.  Its probably going to be a 3 team deal where each team will play the other two.

cubs

Quote from: biggio34 on February 25, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
Quote from: cubs on February 25, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Thanks Crash!!!

That would then finalize UWO's schedule then, as they are at 40 games.  I like the CSS pick-up, and I would be willing to bet that Kannenberg will be starting that game, as the Titans don't have another game after that for over a week.

Rumor on the street earlier in the week was that UWO was having a hard time finding someone to play them in their last double header in the dome and CSS and Augsburg were open to making a switch.  Its probably going to be a 3 team deal where each team will play the other two.
Doesn't surprise me as I know UWO and CSS have had a VERY good relationship in the past....
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