BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[pickleshiner]

How is Oshkosh losing to Edgewood?  I know they lost some key guys from last year but they still have a lineup of studs.  Nolan and Mickey Fadness, Berger, Eichstadt, Hirosky, Helland.  This team should not be losing to Edgewood. 

[cubs]

How is Oshkosh losing to Edgewood?  I know they lost some key guys from last year but they still have a lineup of studs.  Nolan and Mickey Fadness, Berger, Eichstadt, Hirosky, Helland.  This team should not be losing to Edgewood. 

You must have selective memory or something....

Helland broke his arm in the opening DH of the season, so I doubt he is going to be a factor the rest of the season.

Mickey Fadness struggled with the bat last season, coming back from a shoulder injury.  He actually only started about half of UWO's games last season.

Hiroskey, while strong behind the plate, hit under .300 last season.

I'll give you N. Fadness, Berger and Eichstaedt as solid sticks, but you need more than three guys to have a quality line-up and win games.  These three guys went 2x10 in Game #1 and 3X10 in Game #2.  Nobody for UWO had more than one hit in either game of the DH.  That's just not enough production to win games consistently, no matter if you are playing Point, Whitewater, or Edgewood.

[Just Bill]

In Edgewood's defense, their #1 and #2 pitchers are as tough as just about anyones.  Krueger is 7-0 in his career and Winters is a tough lefty.  Sweeping Oshkosh is a surprise, but not a complete shock if they throw those two guys.

[badgerwarhawk]

Oshkosh split a pair of one run games with Gustavus Adolphus yesterday winning the first one 10-9 and losing the second one 2-1.

[biggio34]

Oshkosh split a pair of one run games with Gustavus Adolphus yesterday winning the first one 10-9 and losing the second one 2-1.

And the first game went 9 innings and could have gone either way.

[cubs]

It would not surprise me one bit to see UWO at 12-2 or better heading into their DH with Stevens Point in April.

Nice prediction moron!!!!  Even if they win the rest of their non-conference games, the best they can do is 11-3 going into the Point series.  This includes a game against CSS, and a DH against SNC.  All three of those games will be tests from UWO.....

[cubs]

Wow....  Tough crowd today!!!

I "rip" on myself for being wrong on my prediction, and my "karma" takes a hit....  OUCH!!

[TurtleHead]

Wow....  Tough crowd today!!!

I "rip" on myself for being wrong on my prediction, and my "karma" takes a hit....  OUCH!!

You deserved it for making that prediction.   Or it was a renegade Sox fan. 

Any ideas about why Oshkosh is struggling this year.   People were talking about them being the 3rd WIAC team to make the tourney this year.  Now that does not look like a possibility.

[BigPoppa]

The WIAC is such a well-respected conference that the third place team will always be in the mix for Pool C bid. Still, taking a HUGE loss to Gustavus on the chin really hurts the Titans.

[cubs]

You deserved it for making that prediction.   

Really??  I still think that prediction was "safe" at the time, considering who was on UWO's schedule and how the games were spaced out.  It wasn't as if UWO's schedule was littered with the St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, or Carthage's etc.....  It was full of teams that were either in 5th place, 6th place, 8th place, or 11th place in their conference standings last season.

Any ideas about why Oshkosh is struggling this year.   People were talking about them being the 3rd WIAC team to make the tourney this year.  Now that does not look like a possibility.

They could still be the third best team in the WIAC....  UWO has finished in 3rd place or higher in all but two years since 1968.  (They finished in 4th in 2000 and 5th in 2002.)  Until somebody else proves they can consistently win, there is no reason to believe that Whitewater, Point and Oshkosh won't be the Top 3 teams in WIAC play again this season.  Heck UWO started out 5-5 before WIAC play last season, and still ended up sharing the regular season WIAC Championship with Point and Whitewater.

[cubs]

The WIAC is such a well-respected conference that the third place team will always be in the mix for Pool C bid. Still, taking a HUGE loss to Augsburg on the chin really hurts the Titans.

You mean Gustavus Adolphus?  Oshkosh actually swept Augsburg.... 

They have enough losses already without you letting your hate for the Titans add some more on Poppa!!!!

[TurtleHead]

You deserved it for making that prediction.   

Really??  I still think that prediction was "safe" at the time, considering who was on UWO's schedule and how the games were spaced out.  It wasn't as if UWO's schedule was littered with the St. Thomas', St. Olaf's, or Carthage's etc.....  It was full of teams that were either in 5th place, 6th place, 8th place, or 11th place in their conference standings last season.

Any ideas about why Oshkosh is struggling this year.   People were talking about them being the 3rd WIAC team to make the tourney this year.  Now that does not look like a possibility.

They could still be the third best team in the WIAC....  UWO has finished in 3rd place or higher in all but two years since 1968.  (They finished in 4th in 2000 and 5th in 2002.)  Until somebody else proves they can consistently win, there is no reason to believe that Whitewater, Point and Oshkosh won't be the Top 3 teams in WIAC play again this season.  Heck UWO started out 5-5 before WIAC play last season, and still ended up sharing the regular season WIAC Championship with Point and Whitewater.

As far as the You deserved it comment.  It was sarcasm.  Hence the Sox comment.  I just find it amusing that you can lose karma for ripping on yourself.

Now the 3rd team to make the tourney.  I meant third team to make the NCAA Tourney.  I have no doubt they will place at least 3rd in the WIAC. 

[BigPoppa]

The WIAC is such a well-respected conference that the third place team will always be in the mix for Pool C bid. Still, taking a HUGE loss to Augsburg on the chin really hurts the Titans.

You mean Gustavus Adolphus?  Oshkosh actually swept Augsburg.... 

They have enough losses already without you letting your hate for the Titans add some more on Poppa!!!!

Thanks for the correction... Sorry, the Spring-Ahead has me a bit foggy today:)

[badgerwarhawk]

No offense intended but writing a team off after six games of a forty game season is as silly as assuming the addition of a .288 hitter clinches a World Series berth before a single game has been played. 

[cubs]

Now the 3rd team to make the tourney.  I meant third team to make the NCAA Tourney.  I have no doubt they will place at least 3rd in the WIAC. 

Sorry Turtlehead....  Misread your statement, as I thought you were talking WIAC Tournament, not NCAA.  My apologies...

As far as answering your question about "why Oshkosh is struggling,"  one thing that pops out at me is a lack of senior experience/leadership on the team.  Realistically, your seniors are supposed to carry your team, and except maybe Kanenberg from a pitching standpoint, Oshkosh doens't really have any of these guys.  M. Fadness, Wirth, and the injured Helland are all decent players, but they aren't the first guys you would pick to have up to bat with the game on the line.  When you look back at the WIAC teams that have had a bit of success, all of them had a couple of seniors they could rely on.