BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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Dagger

Koback gets drafted by the Red Sox in the 10th rd of the first year player draft...pretty high for a position player in D3

ShineTime

He's going to beat out Jacoby Ellsbury next year wait and see.  I already loved the Red Sox now I'm definitely making the trip out there next year.
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szlongball

Are you serious? Maybe see where the mi nor league teams are playing and go there. You do realize that Ellsbury is leading the American League in stolen bases don't you? Happy for Kody but don't see him in the majors for at least 2 years.

Dagger

If he set the world on fire he might get a shot in 3yrs, but that's pushing it IMO.  Barring some major injuries, and even then they would likely trade to find a big league ready player, he's got a lot of bus rides before we can even think about talking big leagues.  Congratulations to Cody, he has a great amount of talent and I certainly hope he does well for himself and the WIAC and Point!

cubs

Quote from: Dagger on June 07, 2011, 05:09:53 PM
If he set the world on fire he might get a shot in 3yrs, but that's pushing it IMO.  Barring some major injuries, and even then they would likely trade to find a big league ready player, he's got a lot of bus rides before we can even think about talking big leagues.  Congratulations to Cody, he has a great amount of talent and I certainly hope he does well for himself and the WIAC and Point!
Quite a change in opinion since September huh Dagger? ;D
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Dagger

never said I was best friends with him...just wishing him success.  dont agree with how he handled himself this past fall, never will, but I certainly will not hope for failure.  He is a Pointer after all.

ShineTime

I hate to say I told you so but I've been saying the past three years that Koback is one of the best D3 players of all time.
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Just Bill

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Quote from: ShineTime on June 07, 2011, 07:44:49 PM
I hate to say I told you so but I've been saying the past three years that Koback is one of the best D3 players of all time.

He's not even the best D3 player all-time at his own school.

All he's got right now is a shot, which is a lot more than 99% of D-III ball players ever get. I'm glad for him and hope he makes the most of it.
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ShineTime

One problem there's not that many players ever in D3 that are better than Jordan Zimmerman either.  Koback's stats won't show how great he really was in college since he missed most of last year with injury.
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infielddad

Shine,
It really doesn't matter how good he is in DIII.
What matters is will he sign and how quickly will he adjust to the speed and strength of those playing the game at the next level.
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
He likely will be a Lowell Spinner and he will be seeing 90-95 most every night with better command and breaking balls than he has seen to date.
He needs to be better every day and every AB. If he isn't, the guy next to him, behind him or coming next year will.
That is life in Milb.
He has yet to play a single game at the quality level he will be playing in high A short season Lowell.  As we sit here, we don't understand how much better a DIII player needs to get in a short period of time.
They find out quickly.

cubs

Quote from: infielddad on June 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
I have a funny feeling there will be a stipulation in his contract that the Red Sox will pick up the tab for the remainder of his undergrad tuition should the baseball thing not work out.  I know a couple of guys that went MUCH later than him, and that was part of their contract, in addition to the signing bonus cash.
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2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

infielddad

Quote from: cubs on June 08, 2011, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: infielddad on June 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
I have a funny feeling there will be a stipulation in his contract that the Red Sox will pick up the tab for the remainder of his undergrad tuition should the baseball thing not work out.  I know a couple of guys that went MUCH later than him, and that was part of their contract, in addition to the signing bonus cash.

cubs, you are right, the MLB scholarship program can be part of the contract. It is part of the negotiations.
 However, some teams take the potential cost into consideration on how much bonus is offered, especially as they  move down draft picks..
It is a known fact that the MLB scholarship program is only used by about 5% of those who have it in their contract.
Additionally, it is usually structured to pay current tuition costs, only. If tuition rises, and where is that not happening, the scholarship does not.  It pays a fixed amount which might only be 75% or so of the tuition amount when a player returns to school. The MLB program does not pay room or board.
Finally, the player must return to school within 2 years of their final release date in Milb. It they don't, the scholarship option lapses.
So, while MLB can provide this option, it has many variables which need to be carefully understood or it can look like one thing in a contract and end up being another, or nothing at all.

cubs

Quote from: infielddad on June 08, 2011, 10:38:45 AM
Quote from: cubs on June 08, 2011, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: infielddad on June 07, 2011, 08:41:14 PM
If he signs, he might net about $60,000 after taxes and won't have his degree.
I have a funny feeling there will be a stipulation in his contract that the Red Sox will pick up the tab for the remainder of his undergrad tuition should the baseball thing not work out.  I know a couple of guys that went MUCH later than him, and that was part of their contract, in addition to the signing bonus cash.
cubs, you are right, the MLB scholarship program can be part of the contract. It is part of the negotiations.
 However, some teams take the potential cost into consideration on how much bonus is offered, especially as they  move down draft picks..
It is a known fact that the MLB scholarship program is only used by about 5% of those who have it in their contract.
Additionally, it is usually structured to pay current tuition costs, only. If tuition rises, and where is that not happening, the scholarship does not.  It pays a fixed amount which might only be 75% or so of the tuition amount when a player returns to school. The MLB program does not pay room or board.
Finally, the player must return to school within 2 years of their final release date in Milb. It they don't, the scholarship option lapses.
So, while MLB can provide this option, it has many variables which need to be carefully understood or it can look like one thing in a contract and end up being another, or nothing at all.
+K!!!!  I knew that it was only tuition and not room and board, and I also knew that schooling had to start within 2 years of release, but I was unaware of the fact that they pay the current cost of tuition, and not the cost of what it is when they re-enroll.  Thanks for sharing!!!
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

Just Bill

Daron Montgomery from Detroit Mercy is the choice for UWSP AD:

    uwspathletics Former @DetroitTitans senior associate AD Daron Montgomery introduced as the new UWSP AD. #ncaa #d3 http://yfrog.com/h36ohsij
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"That seems silly and pointless..." - Hoops Fan

The first and still most accurate description of the D3 Championship BeltTM thread.

BoBo

Red Sox sign 12 (including their 6th and 9th round draft picks)...Koback not among them.   :o   STORY
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."