BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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NWBaseballFan10

Quote from: ShineTime on May 12, 2014, 02:01:48 AM
Nice to see that the NCAA finally understands people want to see the best in appleton and broke top ranked teams up.  Anyone else shocked george fox didn't get in?  They beat linfield twice and linfield is rock solid.

I agree with these statements. For the second straight year, Fox will be watching the Regional while sitting at home (or they can take that quick 25 minute drive to watch it in person ;D). As a follower of baseball in the northwest, this decision disappoints me, but I agree with you that it is nice to see the NCAA giving the Pool C's to the best teams. I really thought the West would have at least 5 teams this year with Fox being the only at-large, but yet again my predictions were wrong (so was everyone else's it appears).

So be it though, it will be fun to see UWSP again and see how other teams in the West stack up against them. A rematch between them and Linfield appears inevitable as well. Looking forward to it all! Safe travels to all of you making the trip out west to Oregon. Get ready for some good quality baseball :)

tigerfan_2001

so...anyone want to share anything about UWSP.  I know, that the teams shipped in two years ago, Coe put up a great fight and lost two close games to Trinity.  Other than the fact that UWSP went to the World Series last year, I know little about them.  They seem to have some guys who can swing it, and with the condensed schedule, they have some dept on the mound. 

Curious as to why they didn't throw Watson game one of their tourney, as he has better Stats on paper than Seidl. 

Any insight on to this?

Good luck in the west (just hope not too much good luck as I will be watching my Tigers on the Webcast)

badgerwarhawk

Seidl shut out LaCrosse on a 5 hitter when the two teams met during the regular season.  Though Watson also beat them in a relief appearance.  Perhaps Bloom felt comfortable using either one. 

I'll leave the sharing to Shine.     
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on May 12, 2014, 01:30:41 PM
Seidl shut out LaCrosse on a 5 hitter when the two teams met during the regular season.  Though Watson also beat them in a relief appearance.  Perhaps Bloom felt comfortable using either one. 

I'll leave the sharing to Shine.     
a shut out is always a good reason to throw your guy.  Thanks for that. +1

tigerfan_2001

Thanks for that. Looking forward to a good game on Wesnesday.

d32kidsplayen

Quote from: ShineTime on May 12, 2014, 11:05:58 PM
What the hell one more rant but in all reality being as serious as I can be.  It's been a long roller coaster ride of a season as a pointer fan with a ton of nights of no sleep trying to figure out how this team has underachieved for the most part.  The biggest issue not to be over critical is the catcher position.  Last year point had Ryan Schilter who was virtually impossible to steal on which a program such as point or whitewater should be able to recruit more often than not.  I give credit to Harry steldt it's not that he's horrible by any means he just has that ball or two get by him every game it seems.  I am not sure if the coaching staff were confident in the catchers they had or just couldn't land someone a little more skilled.  They have tried four different catchers this year and two are freshman.  That being said they have had more success throwing guys out than I thought however it seems like teams are advancing bases way too easily at times.  Another noticeable area of concern is poor base running but I think a lot of it is based on the team being over aggressive when facing good pitching.  Point has struggled badly with good pitchers in the Wiac like plaza and cejka but I'm guessing linfield and a few other teams in that regional will have even better.  On a positive note point basically has three number one caliber starters who can beat any lineup when on and their d comes to play.  Jp feyerison was the Wiac pitcher of year last year but has been up and down this year.  I had heard there was potential for him to go in top ten rounds prior to the season.  He has an above average slider but this wisconsin spring weather certainly affected his ability to use it.  I believe he's consistently high 80s and tops at 91.  Cam seidl was the Wiac pitcher of year two years ago and had tommy john surgery last year.  He's pitched very well for the most part and did his part the other day in loss to lacrosse.  If I had to guess he'll get the ball game one he seems unfazed and is basically a bulldog.  My personal favorite pitcher is Luke Watson he's the best statistically and has electric stuff.  I would still roll the dice and go cam Jp and Luke given the quality of competition point will be facing.  Point has a pretty solid bullpen in prebelski and flood although point has used flood as a starter as of late.  Point only has one lefty pitcher in wendorf and he's capable when hitting the strike zone.  Points staff has shown early in the year their capable of beating good competition but it's been a while since they've beaten anyone good.  As for points lineup they are more than capable but struggle mightily with solid pitchers.  They most recently were dominated by plaza from whitewater and cejka from lacrosse.  No way I'm giving in to mccugh with a fastball for any reason.  They have some real solid players in Kranz mccugh and coady although I feel coady had a down year with the bat.  They have an experienced outfield with Barnes gregorich and coady.  Finally I feel this team is nowhere near where they were last year.  In dan Douglas Ryan Schilter and Sean Gerber they lost three guys that could be argued are to 5 all time at their respective positions at point.  The pitching staff with seidl healthy is better but there have been a lot of walks hit batters and wild pitches.

Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...

Spence

Key for me is what Feyereisen and Seidl are going to be...the pitchers they were supposed to be or the ones they have been. I know that WIAC games tend to be a bit higher scoring anyway and the hitters are usually quite good, but one really would have expected better from them.

I had a really hard time knowing what to do with them in my bracket (which is not yet complete). Feyereisen has a good BA against, and obviously so does Watson. Seidl doesn't but strikes guys out.

The other side is Speer has a good ERA, but some of his other numbers aren't on the level of Lucero/Klimesh, etc. And with their SOS, it's hard to translate against easily the most battled tested team Trinity has faced this year.

Should be interesting. The loser most likely gets Linfield. So...you'd really like to win the first one haha.


cubs

When's the last time Oshkosh didn't have a single player make 1st Team All Conference?   

Ouch!!!!  :-[
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

cubs

Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

d32kidsplayen

Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.

Heck no, I don't think that there is any info there that he couldn't have found otherwise, I guess I am just confounded with how quickly and completely Shine rolled over and "gave it up". Why not make the TigerFan work for it???


cubs

Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.

Heck no, I don't think that there is any info there that he couldn't have found otherwise, I guess I am just confounded with how quickly and completely Shine rolled over and "gave it up". Why not make the TigerFan work for it???
As for my second comment?
2008-09 and 2012-13 WIAC Fantasy League Champion

2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 06:47:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: d32kidsplayen on May 13, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Really, Shine?   Never knew you were a double agent.
All this time I thought you were a Pointer fan, pretty disappointing how you rolled over on them upon request.
I bet Coach Bloom would be really happy with your sharing your "wealth of knowledge" here.
Sure hope I can "assist" you like you did your "beloved" Pointers sometime in the near future...

The reality of the whole thing is this Pointer team rolled over some really good, and ranked, opponents early this season, and when the bats "wake up" they can beat any D3 opponent out there-  nuf said...
I have been Shine's biggest critic at times on here, but if you actually think he provided any information that other teams didn't already have you are nuts... 

As far as the "really good and ranked opponents" Point beat early in the season, how many finished the season ranked?  That is more telling about how good a team actually is, and not a preseason ranking.

Heck no, I don't think that there is any info there that he couldn't have found otherwise, I guess I am just confounded with how quickly and completely Shine rolled over and "gave it up". Why not make the TigerFan work for it???
As for my second comment?


Point's out of conference:

Benedictine :  unranked, unranked
Wheaton (Mass): 19th preseason, unranked week 12
Anderson: unranked, unranked
William Paterson: unranked, unranked
Rowan: 22nd preseason, 9th week 12, post season qualifier
Southern Maine: 2nd preseason, 12th week 12, post season qualifier
Denison: unranked, unranked
Washington & Jefferson: 25th preseason, unranked week 12
Ripon: unranked, unranked
St. Norbert: unranked, unranked, post season qualifier

Ok, I had some time to kill.  But I only looked at the preseason d3baseball.com top 25 and the final regular season poll.  In summary of the 4 top 25 ranked (including those receiving votes) teams Point played in the preseason 2 were ranked or receiving votes in the week 12 poll and 3 of their out of conference opponents qualified for the post season.   
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison

Just Bill

Quote from: cubs on May 13, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
When's the last time Oshkosh didn't have a single player make 1st Team All Conference?   

Ouch!!!!  :-[

I'm going to wager, never. And I'm think that's pretty safe bet.
"That seems silly and pointless..." - Hoops Fan

The first and still most accurate description of the D3 Championship BeltTM thread.

ShineTime

As much as I would love to see points bats all of a sudden come to life I would say it's highly unlikely vs their first opponent or linfield.  Whoever loses between uwsp and trinity will more than likely face linfield game 2 hence someone is more than likely 2 and out barring a miracle.  If point can somehow win first two games I actually think they could possibly beat linfield in winners bracket assuming linfield throws their top 2 guys the first two games.  Also max Frederick is more than capable of putting together a dominant outing and could be a huge factor like last year.  I'm hoping the warm weather benefits points staff from what I was told they were dominant in Florida so hopefully it can happen in Oregon. 
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