BB: WIAC: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

ShineTime · April 05, 2023, 07:17:31 PM

La Crosse definitely made a statement and is in a good spot already seeing they took all 4 against Platteville and Point split. Point literally has to win 3 of 4 possibly all 4 at La Crosse to have any chance to win regular season title.

badgerwarhawk · April 07, 2023, 02:01:46 PM

Loras: 4
WARHAWKS: 14 8 inn.

This one was decided early after the WARHAWKS put 6 runs on the board in the first inning. After that it was single runs in the third, fourth and sixth innings and capped with five runs in the eighth. Offensively, led by Joe Gordon's 4x5, 4 RBI, the WARHAWKS had 20 hits which included seven for extra bases. Loras got a pair of runs in the fifth and eighth innings. Sam Vomhof and Alex Najera each had three hits. Max Husebro (3-0) picked up the win allowing 6 hits, 2 runs (both earned) while striking out 8 with a pair of walks in 5 innings. Danny Hopper allowed a single hit and struck out 3 in two innings and Michael Hilker gave up a pair of runs (1 earned) and struck out 4 in an inning to finish the game.

Question: Hilker has 4 strikeouts but only pitched one inning. By rule no inning has more than 3 outs. Does a pitcher get credit for a strikeout on a dropped third strike in which the batter reaches first on the error?

The WARHAWKS look to finish their series with EC on Monday 4/10.

edit: To answer my own question, yes the pitcher is credited with a K.

cubs · April 08, 2023, 01:34:26 PM

Quote from: ShineTime on April 05, 2023, 07:17:31 PM
La Crosse definitely made a statement and is in a good spot already seeing they took all 4 against Platteville and Point split. Point literally has to win 3 of 4 possibly all 4 at La Crosse to have any chance to win regular season title.

I don't think sweeping four games against Platteville is "making a statement" when looking at La Crosse. Winning 16 out of 17 games before yesterday's loss shows they have the depth to compete with the top teams in the WIAC this season.

In my opinion, I think Point splitting with Platteville says more about where Point is at this year in the WIAC pecking order compared to preseason expectations....

cubs · April 08, 2023, 01:45:49 PM

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on April 07, 2023, 02:01:46 PM
Question: Hilker has 4 strikeouts but only pitched one inning. By rule no inning has more than 3 outs. Does a pitcher get credit for a strikeout on a dropped third strike in which the batter reaches first on the error?

edit: To answer my own question, yes the pitcher is credited with a K.

If a batter strikes out, the pitcher gets credit for a K regardless of whether the batter reaches via wild pitch, passed ball or an error....

cubs · April 08, 2023, 06:33:30 PM

La Crosse and Point split... (Those La Crosse and Point vs Whitewater/UWO series should be interesting...)
UWO sweeps Eau Claire (Not too surprising)
Platteville and Stout split (Two pretty even teams?)

Feels like La Crosse, Whitewater, UWO and Point are the top four teams in the WIAC thus far in 2023. That fourth spot in the WIAC Tournament might come down to the Point vs Stout series with Point picking up two losses to Platteville?

cubs · April 08, 2023, 07:07:58 PM

Interesting usage of their closer this weekend by Stevens Point...

Point had a 5-4 lead in the 8th inning on Friday but decided against bringing Ferry into the game. Instead, two other relief pitchers combine to give up a pair of runs and La Crosse wins the opener 6-5...

Fast forward to today, and Ferry comes into the game in the 6th inning with Point trailing 10-4... I get wanting/needing him to get some work, but it's a bit of a head scratcher....

badgerwarhawk · April 08, 2023, 08:42:46 PM

Platteville and Stout played their games at Prucha Field in WHITEWATER and split the series. Evidently Stout's field was unplayable.

ShineTime · April 10, 2023, 02:42:06 PM

Quote from: cubs on April 08, 2023, 07:07:58 PM
Interesting usage of their closer this weekend by Stevens Point...

Point had a 5-4 lead in the 8th inning on Friday but decided against bringing Ferry into the game. Instead, two other relief pitchers combine to give up a pair of runs and La Crosse wins the opener 6-5...

Fast forward to today, and Ferry comes into the game in the 6th inning with Point trailing 10-4... I get wanting/needing him to get some work, but it's a bit of a head scratcher....

Glad someone else was thinking that Point absolutely gave game 1 away no clue what they were thinking not bringing in your all American closer why wouldn't you? If Ferry were ever going to throw wouldn't that have been the perfect opportunity and to take game 1 at La Crosse would've been huge and they needed to take 3 or 4 IMO!

badgerwarhawk · April 11, 2023, 10:51:26 AM

Eau Claire: 8, 3
WARHAWKS: 10, 12

Game one was a back and forth affair. EC got a solo home run in their first at bat for the early lead but the WARHAWKS plated a pair in their half of the inning. EC matched that pair to regain the lead 3-2 in the second but once again the WARHAWKS retook the lead with 6-3 with four runs in their second. That lead stood for the third inning but in the fourth EC plated another pair to pull within a run and then added another run in the fifth to gain a 6-6 tie. But the WARHAWKS pushed a pair across in their half of the inning, regaining the lead 8-6, only to have EC rally for another pair and tie the game at 8's in the sixth. That didn't last however as the WARHAWKS pushed a run across in the seventh to go up 9-8 and Sam Paden followed with three shutout innings of relief, the WARHAWKS added an insurance run in the bottom of the eighth for the final 10-8 win. With the exception of Paden it was a rough day for the pitching staffs as the two teams combined for 24 hits, 12 of which were for extra bases. Sam Vomhof paced WARHAWK batters going 4x5 with 4 RBI and 3RS. Alex Najera went 3x5 which included a pair of triples and 3 RBI. Danny Hooper picked up the win and Paden picked up his 2nd save of the season. Cade Berendt (2-0) picked up the win in game two striking out 7 and allowing 3 earned runs on 7 hits in 6 innings. Eli Frank finished the game surrendering a single hit and striking out 3 in 3 innings of relief. Paden followed up his pitching performance by going 3x5 with 3 RBI and 2 RS to lead the 14 hit WARHAWK offense. Jacob DeMeyer, Vomhof, Nick Paget and Adam Cootway each had a pair of hits.

The WARHAWKS will play an nonconference game vs Ripon today.

cubs · April 11, 2023, 11:51:39 AM

BW-Any idea who is responsible for the official stats for the baseball team? I'd assume the SID, but was just curious....

The reason I ask is that there have been some "weird" scoring decisions this year... For example, when they played Edgewood earlier this season, Eisenbrath pitched the final three innings of the game, and since Whitewater won, he should be credited with a "save." (Nevermind the fact that the score was 8-5 when Eisenbrath entered the game, as the score doesn't matter...) The same thing happened in Whitewater's 14-4 over Grinnell earlier this year where Brandl threw the final three innings and again yesterday in Game #2 vs Eau Claire with Eli Frank. He pitched the final three innings and should also be credited with a save.

The one that really made me scratch my head though was when Huseboe was credited with a win earlier this season against Carroll despite only pitching three innings and giving up four runs. Bretl came on in relief and threw three scoreless innings. It sure would seem he was more deserving of the win than Huseboe, considering starting pitchers need to go five innings to earn a victory. The same thing happened in their 16-5 victory over Eau Claire where Pettit only went four innings but was still credited with the win.

mr_b · April 11, 2023, 03:09:51 PM

Quote from: cubs on April 11, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
The one that really made me scratch my head though was when Huseboe was credited with a win earlier this season against Carroll despite only pitching three innings and giving up four runs. Bretl came on in relief and threw three scoreless innings. It sure would seem he was more deserving of the win than Huseboe, considering starting pitchers need to go five innings to earn a victory. The same thing happened in their 16-5 victory over Eau Claire where Pettit only went four innings but was still credited with the win.

I can't say this was the case for the game in question, but I've heard that head coaches can agree before a game to waive the 5-inning minimum rule regarding starting pitchers. This allows for a starter to go an inning or two and get credited with the win if they leave with a lead and the team holds on to that leave.

cubs · April 11, 2023, 04:41:26 PM

Quote from: mr_b on April 11, 2023, 03:09:51 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 11, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
The one that really made me scratch my head though was when Huseboe was credited with a win earlier this season against Carroll despite only pitching three innings and giving up four runs. Bretl came on in relief and threw three scoreless innings. It sure would seem he was more deserving of the win than Huseboe, considering starting pitchers need to go five innings to earn a victory. The same thing happened in their 16-5 victory over Eau Claire where Pettit only went four innings but was still credited with the win.
I can't say this was the case for the game in question, but I've heard that head coaches can agree before a game to waive the 5-inning minimum rule regarding starting pitchers. This allows for a starter to go an inning or two and get credited with the win if they leave with a lead and the team holds on to that leave.

I've heard of that same stipulation, however when one pitcher has a line of 3 IP, 4 Runs Allowed, and the other has a line of 3 IP, 0 Runs Allowed, you'd think common sense might prevail?

I know Whitewater has a new SID this year, so I'd be willing to wager that's why there are some questions this year compared to years past?

badgerwarhawk · April 11, 2023, 08:24:13 PM

cubs check you private messages.

Ripon: 1
WARHAWKS: 11 7 inn.

This was decided early as the WARHAWKS used a home run from Adam Cootway, a sac fly from Matt Scolon and pair of 2 RBI doubles by Jacob DeMeyer and Donovan Brandl in the second inning to plate 6 runs for the early lead. The WARHAWKS added three runs in the fifth and a single run in the sixth to go up 10-0. However Ripon plated a run in the top of seventh forcing the WARHAWKS to bat once more when DeMeyer hit an RBI single to right field to end the game. Cootway led the offense going 3x4 with 1 RBI and 2RS. In addition to Cootway Scolon, DeMeyer (3 RBI) and Matt Korman had multiple hits. Brandly gets the win allowing a single hit in 4 innings. Max Husebro threw two scoreless innings allowing a single hit and Logan Eisenbarth surrender the single run (earned) in an inning of relief.

PauldingLightUP · April 12, 2023, 12:38:06 PM

Looking rainy this weekend. Should get ahead and play Friday, if not Thursday too.

ShineTime · April 13, 2023, 12:11:09 AM

How couldn't Point recruit an elite pitcher or get a D1 transfer pitcher after making the World Series. So hard to watch a team that can put up 6 or more runs against pretty much anyone be 13-8 and in a world of hurt if they don't at least earn a split with the warhawks. I'm predicting 27 home runs over the 4 games given the heat thats predicted and due to fact Pointers only really have 2 trustworthy starters and that may be a stretch and the Warhawks same thing.