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Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
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Warhawk19

In case anyone was curious, here is a terrible quality video showing the back to back to back to back to back home runs by the warhawks last saturday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZp2jKTpPN4

BaseballFan

Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....

I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!

cubs

Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.
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cubs

Quote from: OshDude on April 05, 2008, 09:22:17 PM
Quote from: janesvilleflash on April 05, 2008, 08:57:40 PM
We'll see about that top 25 after tomorrow.
I think the 'Hawks are Top 25 material no matter what happens tomorrow. I may be in the minority there, but I hope not.

They have a lot going for them: a recent power program with a national title a few years back, nice wins, silly production against one of MW region's top young pitchers and a good overall record. We'll see. You definitely could be correct with the wait-and-see approach, but I'm sold.
Well janesvilleflash was correct, as Whitewater is once again on the outside looking in this weeks Top 25 poll, 17 points behind Depauw at #27.

Oshkosh drops five spots for the second straight week, to #17, while Point moves up four spots to #20.
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BaseballFan

Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.

Well there is a difference between conditioning for endurance and for strength. I think there should be some conditioning in baseball but only to supplement weight lifting. Baseball is generally a quick burst strength sport. So there really is no reason for positionals to work on running 2 miles they will never need it. By the time they use a quick burst enough time has passed before they will use it again. Lifting and short sprints are the best

On the other side pitchers need that endurance in their legs so running long distances coupled with lifting is a good idea. Need that strength plus the endurance

To get to inside pitches faster you use your core (abs) not your legs or to get to the inside pitch you cheat and open up early.

Overall I agree being in good shape helps, but always exceptions Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera, C.C. Sabathia

OshDude

One way to avoid playing six 9-inning games in five days is to crush a team in seven innings, like La Crosse is doing at Stout today.

For those bored at work or school today, Stout has live stats http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm. Don't know if Stout is offering Game 2.

It's LAX 16, Stout 2, in the 7th of Game 1 as I type this. Stout has used seven pitchers in seven innings ... not the best way to get through six games in five days. Someone should have taken one for the team, as they say, after it was 12-1 in the 3rd.


BaseballFan

Quote from: OshDude on April 09, 2008, 04:10:56 PM
One way to avoid playing six 9-inning games in five days is to crush a team in seven innings, like La Crosse is doing at Stout today.

For those bored at work or school today, Stout has live stats http://www.uwstout.edu/athletics/baseball/live/xlive.htm. Don't know if Stout is offering Game 2.

It's LAX 16, Stout 2, in the 7th of Game 1 as I type this. Stout has used seven pitchers in seven innings ... not the best way to get through six games in five days. Someone should have taken one for the team, as they say, after it was 12-1 in the 3rd.



Ouch!

szlongball

OshDude thanks for the link. It is 8-8 in the 7th inning. To bad more teams don't have a setup like this.

badgerwarhawk

The WARHAWKS swept Platteville today 5-0 and 11-4.   Adam Dominick pitched 8 shutout innings, striking out 10, to get the win and Gregg Reik finished by striking out two of the three batters he faced in the ninth.  Ben Prather got things started with a 2 run double in the first inning and Kevin Zalnis added a home run. 

WW scored 9 of their first 10 runs with two outs in game two.  Aaron Dott struggled with his control walking six but surrendered only 3 hits and struck out 8 in five innings to get the win.  Kale Olson, Gregg Riek and Jason Hooper combined to throw four innings of relef and finish the game.  Prather hit well again going 3x4 with an RBI and 2 RS.  Billy Johnson went 2x3 with a pair of RBI and RS. 

WW improves to 4-2, 13-4. 

The weather forecast sounds pretty bad for playing a pair of doublehitters this weekend vs Stout.   Rain, rain and more rain.
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cubs

WIAC Standings (Through 4/9)
Stevens Point 3-1
Whitewater 4-2
Oshkosh 5-3
La Crosse 5-5
Platteville 5-5
Superior 3-5
Stout 3-7

Stevens Point/Oshkosh DH postponed to April 10th.
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2008-09 WIAC Pick'Em Tri-Champion

cubs

Quote from: BaseballFan on April 08, 2008, 05:28:01 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: BaseballFan on April 07, 2008, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 10:38:13 PM
Quote from: OshDude on April 07, 2008, 10:26:02 PM
Quote from: cubs on April 07, 2008, 09:33:57 PM
I know one coach out there who would never vote for changing to seven inning games.... 
Hmm, wonder who that is? LOL. Good point. +1
I know while I played there were teams we wouldn't play for NC because they refused to play nine inning games.....  It was instilled in us from day one that all the conditioning we did would pay off in the 8th and 9th innings, and in all honesty, I can't even begin to remember the number of games we won in the late innings after being down early.... 

I'm sure that philosophy hasn't changed....
I hope you are talking about pitchers conditioning because positional should never be that out of shaped that they get tired. In my opinion I dont think conditioning is that important in baseball (only minimally), strength is more important!
Pitchers condtioned more, but the position players did their fair share as well....  The conditioning the position players did, not only helped aerobically, but it also got our legs stronger combined with the time spent in the weight room.  There were many of mornings spent in the pool swimming in addition to the running.

As far as conditioning not being important in baseball, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the year I was in the best shape, was my best year hitting the ball.  My legs were stronger, which allowed me to get to the inside pitches quicker.
Well there is a difference between conditioning for endurance and for strength. I think there should be some conditioning in baseball but only to supplement weight lifting. Baseball is generally a quick burst strength sport. So there really is no reason for positionals to work on running 2 miles they will never need it. By the time they use a quick burst enough time has passed before they will use it again. Lifting and short sprints are the best

On the other side pitchers need that endurance in their legs so running long distances coupled with lifting is a good idea. Need that strength plus the endurance

To get to inside pitches faster you use your core (abs) not your legs or to get to the inside pitch you cheat and open up early.

Overall I agree being in good shape helps, but always exceptions Prince Fielder, Miguel Cabrera, C.C. Sabathia
You are right about the cores being important, which we also did on a regular basis.  However if you really believe you don't need strong legs to hit consistently, take a look at David Ortiz right now.  He is coming off of off-season surgery, and his back leg just isn't strong enough yet to carry his load/weight transfer before the swing.
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BaseballFan

Quote from: cubs on April 10, 2008, 09:31:26 AM
You are right about the cores being important, which we also did on a regular basis.  However if you really believe you don't need strong legs to hit consistently, take a look at David Ortiz right now.  He is coming off of off-season surgery, and his back leg just isn't strong enough yet to carry his load/weight transfer before the swing.

No I never said that you dont need legs. Your legs dont need be conditioned for endurance as a hitter unless you plan on taking 50+ full cuts in a row. Strength and power is what you need.


So teams in Wisconsin going to get games in this weekend or is suppose to rain?

szlongball

Could be LOTS of snow up north, LOTS of rain everywhere else. Could maybe play Sunday and Monday next week. Looks like Point/Oshkosh may play next Wednesday.

for2n8john

UW-W got the MetroDome for tonight and will play a double-header vs. Stout at 1am.

The AD is going to call the Coach Saturday If we get the weather they are predicting and the field isn't playable for Sunday.  If not playable, they will play another double header again after the Twins game on Saturday around 8pm.