BB: NWC: Northwest Conference

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Bearcat Press

Quote from: BlueZoneBruin on April 28, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
I did some digging and found out that D3 teams are allowed to schedule/play an extra 4 games every four years, for a total of 44 games.  George Fox actually had 44 games scheduled this year, but 3 were rained out.

The issue with Willamette last season had to do with their new coach scheduling more games than they were allowed because they had played extra games in a previous season.   

BlueZoneBruin

Ah.  That makes sense.  BZB, do you know when the Bruins and PLU are going to have the one-game playoff?
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BlueZoneBruin

Quote from: BearcatPress on April 28, 2009, 11:14:25 PM
Quote from: BlueZoneBruin on April 28, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
I did some digging and found out that D3 teams are allowed to schedule/play an extra 4 games every four years, for a total of 44 games.  George Fox actually had 44 games scheduled this year, but 3 were rained out.

The issue with Willamette last season had to do with their new coach scheduling more games than they were allowed because they had played extra games in a previous season.   

BlueZoneBruin

Ah.  That makes sense.  BZB, do you know when the Bruins and PLU are going to have the one-game playoff?

As far as I'm aware, no decision has been made on a playoff game. The primary issue is that the the conference bylaws only have one tiebreaker - a head-to-head game. But, as was stated before, this game would fall outside the NCAA D3 19-week season limit.  If a game happens, it would be hosted by George Fox due to their better record vs. Linfield (the conference 3rd place team), and would most likely take place May 9.  That is all dependant on if the NCAA allows the game.

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royhobbs

What the heck is going on with the NWC???? Do we need to bring Jack Dunn out of retirement to sort this thing out? ???

CrashDavisD3

Plenty of time for a 1 game playoff. NCAA needs to do the right thing and have it decided on the field instead of by the "COMMITTEE"

Why does it take so long for decision to come out.....
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cat_fan_08

I agree, make them play the game at a neutral location. They should have done it last weekend instead of waiting.

BigPoppa

What is the status of this game?
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CrashDavisD3

This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

RSSmith

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 06, 2009, 03:18:47 PM
What is the status of this game?



Flip a coin.  Won't the loser get a Pool C bid anyway?
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Quote from: RSSmith on May 06, 2009, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 06, 2009, 03:18:47 PM
What is the status of this game?



Flip a coin.  Won't the loser get a Pool C bid anyway?
Not necessarily...

In basketball, with 20-24 in-region games and winning percentages around .700 and above, an extra in-region loss dropped a team about 4-7 places in the Pool C calculations of OWP/OOWP.  This was work that Patrick Abegg did for me before he died.

Baseball in reasonably similar to basketball, so I think that another loss might knock the #5 West Region seem deeper onto the bubble.  We also don't know where Cal Lu is relative to the other teams in the Region.

A loss by GFU might drop them out of the regional rankings.

d3baseballnut

Quote from: RSSmith on May 06, 2009, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 06, 2009, 03:18:47 PM
What is the status of this game?



Flip a coin.  Won't the loser get a Pool C bid anyway?

They definitely should. How can one loss drop george fox off the entire ranking, when penn state behrend went 1-4 and didnt budge??? I guess when you are Beloit and go 3-0 and drop all the way out, its not hard to see how GFU could drop out by losing 1.

The fact is, there is inconsistency in the rankings. And here is the problem:

I have never heard of the committee considering regionally unranked teams for Pool C bids. But i know the "rationale" for the inconsistency noted above is that some regions are tougher than others. SO in a bad region, a team might not drop much if they lose a few games. If this is the case, the team that went 3-0 in the tougher region, but fell out of the rankings, should still be considered higher on the pool C bid consideration chart. But they arent. They literally are hurt bc of their tough conference, even though the committee says it doesnt pick Pool C's by region, but nationally.

This is a serious problem. Just because Penn st. behrend is still #4 in the mid-atlantic, they shouldnt above Beloit who went 3-0 last week when Behrend when 1-4, but is only ranked that high bc the committee looks down on the Mid Atlantic. We all know however, that PS Behrend has a greater chance at a Pool C than Beloit for this simple reason. THat is a problem

BigPoppa

D3nut- Are you OK? For three days you have been on a rampage on this board and have been very negative. I fear for your health when the bids come out next week :) If the rankings alone have you this frazzled, what will the final say do to you?
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d3baseballnut

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 07, 2009, 06:20:45 PM
D3nut- Are you OK? For three days you have been on a rampage on this board and have been very negative. I fear for your health when the bids come out next week :) If the rankings alone have you this frazzled, what will the final say do to you?

HAHA......

Dude, these rankings drive me crazy. Why even have rankings? This week's rankings in no way resemble last week's and the game results between the two.....we need a better system.

royhobbs

What a crack up how worked up everyone gets, glad I only have to worry about who's getting ranked below Cal Tech!

Bearcat Press

I'll be shocked if Fox doesn't win the playoff, particularly on their own field.  My Bearcats (who finished a respectable 4th) played PLU close twice (7-6 and 2-0 losses), but we got absolutely smoked by Fox: 14-10, 22-7, 15-1, 16-1.
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