BB: SCAC: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference

Ralph Turner · September 18, 2011, 10:09:05 PM

We have one more season of the SCAC as we know it now.

This has been a great board, so come back in January!

108 Stitches · September 28, 2011, 03:10:22 PM

I guess I don't need to wait until January. Centenary is joining SCAC, which looks like the first to start to fill out the conference after next year. On the surface looks like a nice add.

http://www.scacsports.com/news/centenary_joins_scac

CrashDavisD3 · September 28, 2011, 05:59:15 PM

In 2012 What part of the SCAC is part of the West Region for Baseball ?

108 Stitches · September 28, 2011, 10:08:34 PM

I believe there is no change this year. Changes come next year. Last years standings below.

http://scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/standings-division

CrashDavisD3 · September 29, 2011, 12:50:03 PM

Quote from: 108 Stitches on September 28, 2011, 10:08:34 PM
I believe there is no change this year. Changes come next year. Last years standings below.

http://scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2010-11/standings-division

Thanks.

The last few years Trinity, TX and Hendrix have made it to the West Regional. So 2012 we will continue to see a SCAC member for baseball in the West Regional.

infielddad · September 29, 2011, 01:28:04 PM

CDD3,
I am all for an SCAC team competing in the West Regional, especially an SCAC West division team, with the AQ spot, not a Pool C.
However, since the divisions for 2012 are the same as 2011, and many may pick BSC over TU or Millsaps, at least in the pre-season, having BSC as the AQ would place them out of the West Region as would having Millsaps earn the AQ spot.

CrashDavisD3 · September 29, 2011, 05:05:57 PM

Quote from: infielddad on September 29, 2011, 01:28:04 PM
CDD3,
I am all for an SCAC team competing in the West Regional, especially an SCAC West division team, with the AQ spot, not a Pool C.
However, since the divisions for 2012 are the same as 2011, and many may pick BSC over TU or Millsaps, at least in the pre-season, having BSC as the AQ would place them out of the West Region as would having Millsaps earn the AQ spot.

Not all teams in the SCAC are in the West Region. These are the teams from 2011

West Region Teams
School Location Conference
Austin Sherman, TX SCAC
Hendrix Conway, AR SCAC
Southwestern Georgetown, TX SCAC
Trinity (Texas) San Antonio, TX SCAC

See list of West Region Teams at this Link
http://d3baseball.com/teams/region/west

infielddad · September 29, 2011, 05:14:27 PM

I completely agree with you on the divisions for 2012..
I was addressing this comment:
"So 2012 we will continue to see a SCAC member for baseball in the West Regional."
Are you forecasting that either Trinity or Hendrix will win the SCAC tournament and AQ?
If a team like BSC or Millsaps(from the West) wins the SCAC, they would likely head to the South regional and an SCAC 2nd berth from the West could only be in the West Regional as a Pool C.
Trinity really lost a lot of high quality players. Of course they have quality returning and Coach Scannell is as good at there is at recruiting freshman who can play and compete at a high level.
My guess is that come January, BSC and Millsaps will be the pre-season favorites, which was the "kiss" of failure until the recent string of Trinity success at the SCAC's.

CrashDavisD3 · September 29, 2011, 06:53:45 PM

Quote from: infielddad on September 29, 2011, 05:14:27 PM
I completely agree with you on the divisions for 2012..
I was addressing this comment:
"So 2012 we will continue to see a SCAC member for baseball in the West Regional."
Are you forecasting that either Trinity or Hendrix will win the SCAC tournament and AQ?
If a team like BSC or Millsaps(from the West) wins the SCAC, they would likely head to the South regional and an SCAC 2nd berth from the West could only be in the West Regional as a Pool C.
Trinity really lost a lot of high quality players. Of course they have quality returning and Coach Scannell is as good at there is at recruiting freshman who can play and compete at a high level.
My guess is that come January, BSC and Millsaps will be the pre-season favorites, which was the "kiss" of failure until the recent string of Trinity success at the SCAC's.

Would BSC or Millsaps be sent to the West Region as Pool A or Pool C.

Both are not teams in the West Region. Both are South Region Teams. Would they both not go to the South Regional

The West Regional playoffs has not had a team from another region sent to the West Region. If it has it would have to more than 6 years ago if ever. In recent history a West Region team was sent to another Regional and 2 West Region teams won their regional playoffs and went to Appleton, WI for the National Championship Round

ILVBB · September 29, 2011, 08:42:50 PM

Would BSC or Millsaps be sent to the West Region as Pool A or Pool C.

Highly unlikely; the travel requirements of bringing any team west makes it cost ineffective (but not imposible however).

infielddad · September 30, 2011, 12:30:48 PM

Would BSC or Millsaps be sent to the West Region as Pool A or Pool C.

CDD3, I would agree with ILVBB about the economic aspects.
I think it is equally unlikely from a competitive aspect.
For the past several years, the West Region has been overloaded with talented/ranked teams. I believe there have been at least 2-3 years where every team in the West Region was ranked in the top 30 entering post-season play. As a result, the norm has been either to send a West Region team elsewhere or a very good team goes home and does not qualify for a Pool C.

Bob_Lotts · October 24, 2011, 02:13:34 PM

Just for clarification...Millsaps is not in the SCAC West in 2012. They have moved to the SCAC East to replace DePauw.

Ralph Turner · October 24, 2011, 06:54:22 PM

Please remember UDallas

Quote from: CDD3 on September 29, 2011, 05:05:57 PM
Quote from: infielddad on September 29, 2011, 01:28:04 PM
CDD3,
I am all for an SCAC team competing in the West Regional, especially an SCAC West division team, with the AQ spot, not a Pool C.
However, since the divisions for 2012 are the same as 2011, and many may pick BSC over TU or Millsaps, at least in the pre-season, having BSC as the AQ would place them out of the West Region as would having Millsaps earn the AQ spot.
Not all teams in the SCAC are in the West Region. These are the teams from 2011

West Region Teams
School Location Conference
Austin Sherman, TX SCAC
Hendrix Conway, AR SCAC
Southwestern Georgetown, TX SCAC
Trinity (Texas) San Antonio, TX SCAC

UDallas, Irving, TX SCAC
See list of West Region Teams at this Link
http://d3baseball.com/teams/region/west

Ralph Turner · October 24, 2011, 06:56:46 PM

Quote from: ILVBB on September 29, 2011, 08:42:50 PM
Would BSC or Millsaps be sent to the West Region as Pool A or Pool C.

Highly unlikely; the travel requirements of bringing any team west makes it cost ineffective (but not imposible however).

Mississippi College was flown west to Linfield, but once a team needs to fly to a venue, then it can be flown anywhere.

ILVBB · October 24, 2011, 10:17:12 PM

I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that Mississippi was a west region school. The original question was if BSC or Millsaps would be sent to a west region. The are both southern region schools.

Given the cost of flying the NCAA really only flys teams that must. It is inevitable that at least 3 teams will need to fly to a west region (until the change the alignment, which I think is a year away).

My point was addressed to the question of flying a Millsaps or BSC which I thought was highly unlikely because of cost.