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CrashDavisD3

Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 21, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 20, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
SCAC Conference Championship website is here:

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/championships_release

No baseball games for 11 days for SCAC teams. Not a recipe for keeping everything sharp and ready for playoff baseball. Maybe why Trinity has not advanced to the DIII NCAA Championship tournament,


the tourney is actually a week later than normal, meaning it will be a week closer to the regional. If trinity wins the scac, maybe the shorter layoff will help come regional time.
No baseball games for almost 2 weeks and then SCAC Championship games then another week off. That is too many days off IMO to be sharp for the regionals.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

108 Stitches

You have to go with your best and keep winning each game in front of you,so likely Speer but they will probably look at stats and RH/LH then make a decision.

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 21, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 20, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
SCAC Conference Championship website is here:

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/championships_release

No baseball games for 11 days for SCAC teams. Not a recipe for keeping everything sharp and ready for playoff baseball. Maybe why Trinity has not advanced to the DIII NCAA Championship tournament,


the tourney is actually a week later than normal, meaning it will be a week closer to the regional. If trinity wins the scac, maybe the shorter layoff will help come regional time.
No baseball games for almost 2 weeks and then SCAC Championship games then another week off. That is too many days off IMO to be sharp for the regionals.
well....until this year, it was play the conf tourney the last weekend of april and then sit almost 3 weeks and play a regional.  who knows....the ideal way would be play games every weekend up the the week before the regional.  However, that wouldn't happen bc there would be no teams to play against.

CrashDavisD3

Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 22, 2014, 08:10:16 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 21, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 20, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
SCAC Conference Championship website is here:

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/championships_release

No baseball games for 11 days for SCAC teams. Not a recipe for keeping everything sharp and ready for playoff baseball. Maybe why Trinity has not advanced to the DIII NCAA Championship tournament,


the tourney is actually a week later than normal, meaning it will be a week closer to the regional. If trinity wins the scac, maybe the shorter layoff will help come regional time.
No baseball games for almost 2 weeks and then SCAC Championship games then another week off. That is too many days off IMO to be sharp for the regionals.
well....until this year, it was play the conf tourney the last weekend of april and then sit almost 3 weeks and play a regional.  who knows....the ideal way would be play games every weekend up the the week before the regional.  However, that wouldn't happen bc there would be no teams to play against.
SCAC is schedule now is an improvement over prior years but still is less than ideal or normal. Does teams in DIII football or basketball schedule the same way for SCAC teams. I don't think so. Just a very weird schedule for baseball to me. Hard to win a regional with this type of schedule IMO but maybe 2014 is the break thru year...But they need to go thru Linfield to finally make the trip to Appleton from Trinity
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 22, 2014, 08:30:38 AM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 22, 2014, 08:10:16 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 21, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 21, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 20, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
SCAC Conference Championship website is here:

http://www.scacsports.com/sports/bsb/2013-14/releases/championships_release

No baseball games for 11 days for SCAC teams. Not a recipe for keeping everything sharp and ready for playoff baseball. Maybe why Trinity has not advanced to the DIII NCAA Championship tournament,


the tourney is actually a week later than normal, meaning it will be a week closer to the regional. If trinity wins the scac, maybe the shorter layoff will help come regional time.
No baseball games for almost 2 weeks and then SCAC Championship games then another week off. That is too many days off IMO to be sharp for the regionals.
well....until this year, it was play the conf tourney the last weekend of april and then sit almost 3 weeks and play a regional.  who knows....the ideal way would be play games every weekend up the the week before the regional.  However, that wouldn't happen bc there would be no teams to play against.
SCAC is schedule now is an improvement over prior years but still is less than ideal or normal. Does teams in DIII football or basketball schedule the same way for SCAC teams. I don't think so. Just a very weird schedule for baseball to me. Hard to win a regional with this type of schedule IMO but maybe 2014 is the break thru year...But they need to go thru Linfield to finally make the trip to Appleton from Trinity
baseball is the only sport that deals with this because of semester exams.  stupid, but it is what it is.  other schools deal with it, but the SCAC chooses not to

Bishopleftiesdad

Could a school decide to schedule some games after the tourney with out of conference opponents or is that a No, No for the conference?

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 22, 2014, 11:06:59 AM
Could a school decide to schedule some games after the tourney with out of conference opponents or is that a No, No for the conference?
the problem is location of teams.  For Texas, there are two conferences, the ASC and SCAC.  The ASC always finished up after the SCAC does, but that still doesnt leave any teams for a SCAC team to play.  No team wants to play after their conf tourney is over, at least no one in the SW does.  Trinity has even tried to get games with non-D3 schools in the area, even JUCO's in Texas and no one wants games during that time of year.  Most are full. 

Bishopleftiesdad

Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on April 22, 2014, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on April 22, 2014, 11:06:59 AM
Could a school decide to schedule some games after the tourney with out of conference opponents or is that a No, No for the conference?
the problem is location of teams.  For Texas, there are two conferences, the ASC and SCAC.  The ASC always finished up after the SCAC does, but that still doesnt leave any teams for a SCAC team to play.  No team wants to play after their conf tourney is over, at least no one in the SW does.  Trinity has even tried to get games with non-D3 schools in the area, even JUCO's in Texas and no one wants games during that time of year.  Most are full.

Thanks +1

CrashDavisD3

I personally know final exams being taken at hotels, in the stands at the stadium, even in the dugout before games for one West Coach team that used to make frequent trips to Regional's and Appleton. Academics were taken seriously too. Players have become Doctor's, Lawyers, Physical Therapist, Trainers, Law Enforcement Officers, Teachers etc....

As you said the SCAC schools do no favors to the baseball teams with their scheduling.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

Teddy_Ballgame

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 22, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
I personally know final exams being taken at hotels, in the stands at the stadium, even in the dugout before games for one West Coach team that used to make frequent trips to Regional's and Appleton. Academics were taken seriously too. Players have become Doctor's, Lawyers, Physical Therapist, Trainers, Law Enforcement Officers, Teachers etc....

As you said the SCAC schools do no favors to the baseball teams with their scheduling.

Just because it happens doesn't mean it's a good thing. Sure baseball players will often be able to be successful despite having to take exams under difficult circumstances. That speaks to the determination and intelligence of the players more than anything, but doesn't justify throwing additional obstacles in their way that the rest of the student body doesn't have to deal with. I think the SCAC is doing good by their athletes in not trying to interfere with finals. It's too bad that it means that their teams are a tad less prepared for the regionals, obviously, but avoiding interference with finals is as good a reason for that as any. Good on them.

tigerfan_2001

Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 22, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
I personally know final exams being taken at hotels, in the stands at the stadium, even in the dugout before games for one West Coach team that used to make frequent trips to Regional's and Appleton. Academics were taken seriously too. Players have become Doctor's, Lawyers, Physical Therapist, Trainers, Law Enforcement Officers, Teachers etc....

As you said the SCAC schools do no favors to the baseball teams with their scheduling.
Agreed....I am sure any coach would love to keep playing right up to the regional.  Problem is, those higher up the University say no.  I dont think TU has ever used that as an excuse for not getting past a regional, but it doesn't help

108 Stitches

This year the scheduling is much better. They have a full week off after the Conf tournament and then two days for travel and then the Regional. They will likely have full inter-squad scrimmages like they have done in the past but it has been for 3 weeks, which is too long. School will be out so they can just focus on baseball however.

Crash, I would love to say that this is the year they break through, but frankly I doubt it, Linfield just looks too good, at least from down here in Texas. TU has the talent, and it could happen, but the cards are stacked against them.  (and everyone else for that matter!) I also question their starting pitching, frankly there seems like there is more talent in the bull pen so I am not sure what is going on pitching wise. 

Jack Parkman

Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 22, 2014, 02:46:52 PM
This year the scheduling is much better. They have a full week off after the Conf tournament and then two days for travel and then the Regional. They will likely have full inter-squad scrimmages like they have done in the past but it has been for 3 weeks, which is too long. School will be out so they can just focus on baseball however.


Gotta make it there first ;D

Its too bad that not all schools are on the same schedule.  Some are completely done with school by the time the regional starts and some are still in it weeks later.  There was nothing better than not having to worry about classes and doing nothing but play ball.

CrashDavisD3

Even in the West with good weather the schedule and breaks away from the field differ great from the different conferences.

Look at the schedules of the ASC, NWC, SCIAC and SCAC.

NWC - has on Conference Tournament
SCIAC has a conference tournament but a different format than the ASC and SCAC.
SCAC has huge gaps in it's schedule in the last 30 days of their season.
ASC and SCAC have similar conference tournaments.

It would be great that the entire West region was a similar format for schedule, tournaments and any gaps in the schedule to put all teams on a more even starting point going into the regional games. A little more consistent among the conferences would be beneficial to players, students and teams IMO.
This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.  "There are three types of baseball players: those who make things happen, those who watch it happen, and those who wonder what happened."
Crash Davis Bio - http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/crash0908.html

sportsfan

what is going on in San Antonio with Trinity? losing games that they should be winning and not using their entire pen? Noticed that they have not thrown their closers since mid year and the starters are struggling.  Are they injured? Looks like Bogese has really struggled and same with Walker and Gray recently.  not the way to win a regional