Posters' Poll

pbrooks3 · February 10, 2008, 08:05:26 PM

Posters' Poll for this week is in.

magicman · February 10, 2008, 08:44:00 PM

Mine is in. Hope we get lots of responses.

pbrooks3 · February 10, 2008, 08:54:48 PM

Hoops Fan

No. I was referring to Plattsburgh State where 2 weeks ago you left them out but said you may come to regret it. They have went 5-0 since that time and are now 19-2 overall and 12-0 in a tough SUNYAC conference that's probably as strong as it's been in the past 4 or 5 years if not longer. So I was plugging them.
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I am a Centre supporter, but I moved up Plattsburgh St several places on my ballot this week.

magicman · February 10, 2008, 09:19:48 PM

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I am a Centre supporter, but I moved up Plattsburgh St several places on my ballot this week.

And I did the same for your Centre team.

Mr. Ypsi · February 10, 2008, 09:39:17 PM

Now, now, gentlemen - let's not get into "I'll boost your team if you boost mine"!

I've tabulated 5 ballots so far (last week we dropped to only 7, so looks promising). So far 19 teams appear on all 5, and 6 more on 4, and that so far is our top 25. But only a few of them show much agreement on where in the top 25 they belong. All spots (except perhaps #1) are still very much up for grabs, so keep those ballots comin'!

magicman · February 10, 2008, 11:19:47 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 10, 2008, 09:39:17 PM
Now, now, gentlemen - let's not get into "I'll boost your team if you boost mine"!

I've tabulated 5 ballots so far (last week we dropped to only 7, so looks promising). So far 19 teams appear on all 5, and 6 more on 4, and that so far is our top 25. But only a few of them show much agreement on where in the top 25 they belong. All spots (except perhaps #1) are still very much up for grabs, so keep those ballots comin'!

Mr. Ypsi,

I had already posted my ballot before reading pbrooks3's post. As you well know!!!

Mr. Ypsi · February 11, 2008, 05:41:34 PM

We've exceeded last week already, with 8 ballots in. Let's get double-digits!

If you haven't voted yet, be assured that your vote will matter - #1 looks set (no surprise to anyone who looks at last week, and notes that our #2 and #3 teams both lost) and, interestingly, so is #12 (I just won't say who it is!). Every other spot, from #2 to #24 is hotly contested, and several teams are in the running for #25. (With 8 voters we are only 7 teams over the minimum, and four of those are 1-ballot 'orphans' - amazing agreement on who; a lot of disagreement on where!)

Mr. Ypsi · February 11, 2008, 09:22:50 PM

9 ballots. While there are a number of others I (naively?) hope for, there aren't any others I truly expect. Any more ballots in the pipeline?

If I don't hear of others brfore then, I'll start typing in about a half hour.

Mr. Ypsi · February 11, 2008, 10:46:06 PM

Posters' Poll:

1. Amherst 225 (unanimous)

2. UWW 201 (2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5,7)
3. Hope 188 (2,2,4,4,5,6,7,7,9)
4. Augie 186 (2,3,3,45,6,7,8,10)
5. Centre 180 (2,3,3,4,5,8,9,10,10)
6. Rochester 174 (4,5,5,6,6,7,8,9,10)
7. UM-Dart 167 (2,4,4,5,7,9,9,10,17)
8. Wash U 165 (3,6,7,7,8,8,8,8,14)

9. UWSP 150 (3,6,6,11,11,11,11,12,13)
10 Capital 148 (6,7,8,9,9,9,12,13,13)
11 Brandeis 147 (3,5,10,10,10,11,12,12,14)

12 Plattsburgh 127 (2,4,11,12,13,13,15,16,21)

13 UMHB 113 (11,11,12,12,12,13,13,14,23)
14 UWP 108 (6,8,15,15,15,16,16,16,19)
15 Wooster 104 (10,14,14,14,14,14,15,15,20)
16 Guilford 97 (9,13,15,15,16,16,16,18,19)
17 St Thomas 82 (12,13,17,17,18,18,18,18,21)
18 Oxy 69 (14,17,17,17,18,18,19,19,-)
19 Ursinus 57 (11,18,19,19,20,21,22,22,25)
20 UPS 47 (16,17,19,20,21,21,22,25,-)
21 Lawrence 42 (16,20,20,21,22,23,23,23,24)

22 Stevens 30 (17,20,20,21,22)
t23 Va Wes 29 (19,20,22,22,23,24,24,25,-)
t23 UWO 29 (17,19,22,22,23,24)
25 RMC 18 (18,21,24,25,25,25)

26 Chicago 11 (15)
27 Millsaps 10 (20,23,25)
28 Cal Lu 9 (21,24,24)
t29 Elmhurst 3 (23)
t29 Wheaton 3 (23)
t31 Middlebury 2 (25,25)
t31 Willy Pat 2 (24)
t31 DePauw 2 (24)

LogShow · February 11, 2008, 11:00:25 PM

Well Puget Sound is right about where I thought they would end up.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 11, 2008, 11:01:16 PM

Hey, I only voted for three schools that ended up outside our Top 25. Maybe I'm losing my touch?

Mr. Ypsi · February 11, 2008, 11:15:39 PM

Three teams I strongly considered that I was surprised got no love:

DePauw (though they fnally got 2 points on the last ballot) - winner of 8 straight, and now 18-4.

Bowdoin, now also 18-4 and challenging in the NESCAC (though lost to Middlebury, who did get 2 points at 17-5).

Wittenberg, winner of 14 of their last 15 (including over Woo) - I suspect their horrendous 1-5 start may have taken them permanently off many radar screens.

I suspect that 19 teams being named on ALL ballots, and another 3 on 8 of 9, may be a new all-time high on consensus (despite the return of Hoops Fan

).

sac · February 11, 2008, 11:33:50 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 11, 2008, 11:15:39 PM
Three teams I strongly considered that I was surprised got no love:

DePauw (though they fnally got 2 points on the last ballot) - winner of 8 straight, and now 18-4.

That was me, and it seems like for the second year in a row I'm the lone believer in the Tigers. Maybe its just man love?

I should seek therapy.

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 11, 2008, 11:15:39 PM
Bowdoin, now also 18-4 and challenging in the NESCAC (though lost to Middlebury, who did get 2 points at 17-5).

Penciled them in for next week re-evaluation

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 11, 2008, 11:15:39 PM
Wittenberg, winner of 14 of their last 15 (including over Woo) - I suspect their horrendous 1-5 start may have taken them permanently off many radar screens.

The win over Woo was nice and a surprise, certainly a terrific win. The problem I have beyond just the 6 losses is that of those 14 wins in 15 games only 2 have come vs a team with a winning record, Wabash and Wooster. The other team with a winning record they faced Ohio Wesleyan, they lost to. Their 2 non-con wins came against 10-12 UW LaCrosse, and current MIAA last place Olivet (they're behind Alma for crying out loud)

Nothing that Witt has accomplished yet screams top 20 team at me right now.

Mr. Ypsi · February 11, 2008, 11:55:54 PM

sac,

If you continue that 'Tiger crush', beware of Little Giants on your front lawn!

Actually, I'm not quite ready to rank them yet, but I'm glad someone did.

Good points on Witt (and despite the way I worded that, they're on my radar but I actually rejected them fairly early; I guess my surprise is that they are WITT, all-time winningest team: someone was bound to rank them!). And in fairness, I suspect many of those losing-record teams they beat are still better than the great majority of teams on some ranked teams' schedules.

Mr. Ypsi · February 12, 2008, 01:21:40 AM

I finally took a look at the real poll and found a name I'd totally left off my radar: Maryville (TN) enters at #25. Since they are a perennial tourney team (pool B, usually the leader), I'm not sure why I completely forgot to check them (probably their suspect schedule). They've split with Averett and Emory and otherwise beaten everyone they've faced (now 20-2, with a 13-game winning streak).

I don't think I'm ready to vote for them yet, but I'll be watching if others fall. (Right now I'd have them perhaps 30-35 and there is probably nothing they can do but keep winning and wait for others to lose - their opponents just don't impress me as 'signature' wins.)