Posters' Poll

[Gregory Sager]

The official poll is out now.  There are only three teams I didn't name in my poll and all three of the ones I replaced them with are in the top 6 of ORV.  I feel like I'm either selling out or right on the mark.  Not sure which.

This disappoints me, for some reason.

Can we at least hope that you'll live up to your Captain Outlier moniker by bending the curve in terms of team placement within the Top 25?

[Mr. Ypsi]

We have a new record - 13 ballots!  Any more in the pipeline?

I'll hold off until 6 (est), or later if someone needs time.

[Mr. Ypsi]

POSTERS' POLL, Jan. 24, 2010

1.  UWSP          325 (unanimous)
2.  Guilford       309 (2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,4)
3.  Williams      289 (2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,6,6,8)
4.  UWW           277 (3,3,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,6,7,7)
5.  WashU        258 (2,3,4,5,5,5,6,6,6,8,9,9,12)
6.  VaWes        246 (4,5,5,5,6,6,7,7,8,8,8,11,12)
7.  EMU             245 (3,3,4,5,5,7,8,8,8,9,11,11,11)
8.  RandyMac    231 (4,5,7,8,8,8,8,9,9,10,10,10,11)
9.  St.Thomas    220 (6,6,7,7,9,9,9,9,10,11,11,12,12)
10 Midd             206 (5,6,7,7,8,9,10,10,12,13,13,15,17)
11 Anderson     198 (7,7,10,10,10,10,10,11,12,12,13,13,15)
12 Whitworth    186 (4,7,10,10,11,12,12,12,13,13,13,15,16)
13 St.Norbert    174 (6,11,11,11,12,13,13,13,14,14,14,15,17)
14 MIT               159 (6,9,12,12,14,14,14,15,15,15,16,17,20)
15 WillyPat        128 (9,11,14,15,15,15,16,16,17,19,20,21,22)
16 Chapman      112 (9,13,14,16,16,16,17,19,19,20,20,21,-)
17 IWU               93 (13,14,17,17,17,17,18,19,19,21,22,25,-)
18 MissCol          81 (15,16,16,16,17,17,18,19,20,21,23,23,-)
19 UT-Dallas       79 (13,14,16,18,18,19,19,20,22,23,25,-,-)
20 F & M             54 (15,17,18,19,20,20,23,23,25,-,-,-,-)
21 Amherst        53 (14,15,18,20,20,21,21,-,-,-,-,-,-)
22 Medaille        52 (14,16,18,18,19,23,24,24,-,-,-,-,-)
23 Carthage      35 (20,21,21,22,22,22,22,24,25,-,-,-,-)
24 Wooster       34 (18,19,22,22,23,24,24,24,25.-,-,-,-)
25 Brandeis       33 (18,19,21,21,23,23,25,25,-,-,-,-,-)

26 Maryville       27 (18,18,22,24,24,24,25)
27 St. Mary's     21 (18,20,22,23)
28 Cabrini         20 (17,19,23,25)
29 Albright       16 (14,22)
30 Wilma           13 (16,23)
31 Lyco              12 (20,22,24)
t32 CMS              5 (24,24,25)
t32 Calvin           5 (23,24)
t32 Colby            5 (21)
t32 GAC              5 (21)
t32 Rochester     5 (21)
t37 Oneonta        1
t37 Wheaton        1

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Wow, I only had one true outlier vote and that was for WashU.  Maybe I'm getting sick or something.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I've just received a PM from a voter/poster asking me to list all the voters.  Since there was no request to broach confidentiality in terms of HOW they voted, I'm tempted to comply, but wanted to give voters the opportunity to opt out if you so choose.  If any voter does NOT want to be identified as a voter, PM me.

While HOW you voted remains entirely your call on whether to 'own up', I can't come up with a compelling reason to hide WHO votes (by poster handle only).  Pat doesn't reveal the identity of d3hoops.com voters, but I don't think we are in quite the same situation!

If anyone does NOT wish to be identified, PM me.  Otherwise I'll post the list tomorrow evening.

[frodotwo]

1.  UWSP          325      {1 }               (unanimous)
2.  Guilford       309       {2 }    (2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,3,4)
3.  Williams      289       {4 }     (2,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,6,6,8)
4.  UWW           277      {6 }     (3,3,4,4,4,4,4,5,5,5,6,7,7)
5.  WashU        258       {7}    (2,3,4,5,5,5,6,6,6,8,9,9,12)
6.  VaWes        246       {9 }   (4,5,5,5,6,6,7,7,8,8,8,11,12)
7.  EMU             245      {3 }     (3,3,4,5,5,7,8,8,8,9,11,11,11)
8.  RandyMac    231      {5 }     (4,5,7,8,8,8,8,9,9,10,10,10,11)
9.  St.Thomas    220     {10}    (6,6,7,7,9,9,9,9,10,11,11,12,12)
10 Midd             206     {12}   (5,6,7,7,8,9,10,10,12,13,13,15,17)
11 Anderson     198     {11}    (7,7,10,10,10,10,10,11,12,12,13,13,15)
12 Whitworth    186     {13}   (4,7,10,10,11,12,12,12,13,13,13,15,16)
13 St.Norbert    174     {14}  (6,11,11,11,12,13,13,13,14,14,14,15,17)
14 MIT               159      {8}   (6,9,12,12,14,14,14,15,15,15,16,17,20)
15 WillyPat        128     {19}   (9,11,14,15,15,15,16,16,17,19,20,21,22)
16 Chapman      112     {17}    (9,13,14,16,16,16,17,19,19,20,20,21,-)
17 IWU               93      {15}    (13,14,17,17,17,17,18,19,19,21,22,25,-)
18 MissCol          81      {18}    (15,16,16,16,17,17,18,19,20,21,23,23,-)
19 UT-Dallas       79      {20}    (13,14,16,18,18,19,19,20,22,23,25,-,-)
20 F & M             54      {24}     (15,17,18,19,20,20,23,23,25,-,-,-,-)
21 Amherst        53      {22}     (14,15,18,20,20,21,21,-,-,-,-,-,-)
22 Medaille        52      {23}    (14,16,18,18,19,23,24,24,-,-,-,-,-)
23 Carthage      35      {27}     (20,21,21,22,22,22,22,24,25,-,-,-,-)
24 Wooster       34       {28}     (18,19,22,22,23,24,24,24,25.-,-,-,-)
25 Brandeis       33       {16}    (18,19,21,21,23,23,25,25,-,-,-,-,-)

26 Maryville       27       {29}    (18,18,22,24,24,24,25)
27 St. Mary's     21       {21}    (18,20,22,23)
28 Cabrini         20       {35}    (17,19,23,25)
29 Albright        16       {30}    (14,22)
30 Wilma           13       {35}    (16,23)
31 Lyco              12      {34}  (20,22,24)
t32 CMS              5       {NV}                           (24,24,25)
t32 Calvin           5        {32}   (23,24)
t32 Colby            5       {NV}                           (21)
t32 GAC              5        {37}    (21)
t32 Rochester     5        {26}    (21)
t37 Oneonta        1       {37}
t37 Wheaton        1      {30}

Dropped out:  #25 UW-LaX; #33 Wittenburg; #37 Defiance; #37 Linfield

Last week's rankings added

[frodotwo]

I've just received a PM from a voter/poster asking me to list all the voters.  Since there was no request to broach confidentiality in terms of HOW they voted, I'm tempted to comply, but wanted to give voters the opportunity to opt out if you so choose.  If any voter does NOT want to be identified as a voter, PM me.

While HOW you voted remains entirely your call on whether to 'own up', I can't come up with a compelling reason to hide WHO votes (by poster handle only).  Pat doesn't reveal the identity of d3hoops.com voters, but I don't think we are in quite the same situation!

If anyone does NOT wish to be identified, PM me.  Otherwise I'll post the list tomorrow evening.

As long as we don't have to include pics

[sac]

4 ODAC teams in the top 8 is wrong, but I just have a general angst against that sort of thing.

[sac]

No love for the OAC either.

[Mr. Ypsi]

4 ODAC teams in the top 8 is wrong, but I just have a general angst against that sort of thing.

But at least it wasn't the CCIW - eh, sac!

I confess, all 4 ODAC teams in the top 8 on my ballot - until Bridgewater (ODAC) beat EMU, none of the four had ever lost to a d3 team.

For the record, IWU was the same place on my ballot as in the final PP poll (though I had #23 Carthage at #21, but I am NOT the vote for Wheaton) - no home cookin' here!

[Mr. Ypsi]

I've just received a PM from a voter/poster asking me to list all the voters.  Since there was no request to broach confidentiality in terms of HOW they voted, I'm tempted to comply, but wanted to give voters the opportunity to opt out if you so choose.  If any voter does NOT want to be identified as a voter, PM me.

While HOW you voted remains entirely your call on whether to 'own up', I can't come up with a compelling reason to hide WHO votes (by poster handle only).  Pat doesn't reveal the identity of d3hoops.com voters, but I don't think we are in quite the same situation!

If anyone does NOT wish to be identified, PM me.  Otherwise I'll post the list tomorrow evening.

As long as we don't have to include pics

I have enough trouble with the paparazzi - why give 'em a freebie?!

[dc_has_been]

I've just received a PM from a voter/poster asking me to list all the voters.  Since there was no request to broach confidentiality in terms of HOW they voted, I'm tempted to comply, but wanted to give voters the opportunity to opt out if you so choose.  If any voter does NOT want to be identified as a voter, PM me.

While HOW you voted remains entirely your call on whether to 'own up', I can't come up with a compelling reason to hide WHO votes (by poster handle only).  Pat doesn't reveal the identity of d3hoops.com voters, but I don't think we are in quite the same situation!

If anyone does NOT wish to be identified, PM me.  Otherwise I'll post the list tomorrow evening.

Even though this was my first time voter, long time reader, I would think it would be good to get some insight on some posters picks.  For example, I am curious on picks for MIT considering they have a range from 6 to 20 & Chapman, 9 to not being rated (I was the one who didn't rank them)?

[sac]

I've just received a PM from a voter/poster asking me to list all the voters.  Since there was no request to broach confidentiality in terms of HOW they voted, I'm tempted to comply, but wanted to give voters the opportunity to opt out if you so choose.  If any voter does NOT want to be identified as a voter, PM me.

While HOW you voted remains entirely your call on whether to 'own up', I can't come up with a compelling reason to hide WHO votes (by poster handle only).  Pat doesn't reveal the identity of d3hoops.com voters, but I don't think we are in quite the same situation!

If anyone does NOT wish to be identified, PM me.  Otherwise I'll post the list tomorrow evening.

Even though this was my first time voter, long time reader, I would think it would be good to get some insight on some posters picks.  For example, I am curious on picks for MIT considering they have a range from 6 to 20 & Chapman, 9 to not being rated (I was the one who didn't rank them)?

I'm luke warm on both, and I'm on the low end of the spectrum for both.   Northeast and far western teams are always difficult to gauge for me.

[Ralph Turner]

I've just received a PM from a voter/poster asking me to list all the voters.  Since there was no request to broach confidentiality in terms of HOW they voted, I'm tempted to comply, but wanted to give voters the opportunity to opt out if you so choose.  If any voter does NOT want to be identified as a voter, PM me.

While HOW you voted remains entirely your call on whether to 'own up', I can't come up with a compelling reason to hide WHO votes (by poster handle only).  Pat doesn't reveal the identity of d3hoops.com voters, but I don't think we are in quite the same situation!

If anyone does NOT wish to be identified, PM me.  Otherwise I'll post the list tomorrow evening.

Even though this was my first time voter, long time reader, I would think it would be good to get some insight on some posters picks.  For example, I am curious on picks for MIT considering they have a range from 6 to 20 & Chapman, 9 to not being rated (I was the one who didn't rank them)?

I'm luke warm on both, and I'm on the low end of the spectrum for both.   Northeast and far western teams are always difficult to gauge for me.

They are hard for me to judge also.

The Northeast has been a relatively weak region outside the NESCAC.  The OWP numbers are buoyed by great records on very average teams, IMHO.

The far west teams usually have to go thru the bracket of death and so really good teams fly 1500 miles and two time zones east to play against the hometown team.  That is not a fair comparison.  I cannot find more than 20 teams that I really feel good about.

The Mid-Atlantic teams are have not been strong recently either.

I can see the ODAC having one of those magical seasons.  The ASC and SCAC are not strong enough to have a breakout team to cut into the Pool C calculations either.  ODAC teams will be coming up at the table in rapid succession.  I predict 2 Pool C bids from the ODAC this year.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I've just received a PM from a voter/poster asking me to list all the voters.  Since there was no request to broach confidentiality in terms of HOW they voted, I'm tempted to comply, but wanted to give voters the opportunity to opt out if you so choose.  If any voter does NOT want to be identified as a voter, PM me.

While HOW you voted remains entirely your call on whether to 'own up', I can't come up with a compelling reason to hide WHO votes (by poster handle only).  Pat doesn't reveal the identity of d3hoops.com voters, but I don't think we are in quite the same situation!

If anyone does NOT wish to be identified, PM me.  Otherwise I'll post the list tomorrow evening.

Even though this was my first time voter, long time reader, I would think it would be good to get some insight on some posters picks.  For example, I am curious on picks for MIT considering they have a range from 6 to 20 & Chapman, 9 to not being rated (I was the one who didn't rank them)?

I'm luke warm on both, and I'm on the low end of the spectrum for both.   Northeast and far western teams are always difficult to gauge for me.

They are hard for me to judge also.

The Northeast has been a relatively weak region outside the NESCAC.  The OWP numbers are buoyed by great records on very average teams, IMHO.

The far west teams usually have to go thru the bracket of death and so really good teams fly 1500 miles and two time zones east to play against the hometown team.  That is not a fair comparison.  I cannot find more than 20 teams that I really feel good about.

The Mid-Atlantic teams are have not been strong recently either.

I can see the ODAC having one of those magical seasons.  The ASC and SCAC are not strong enough to have a breakout team to cut into the Pool C calculations either.  ODAC teams will be coming up at the table in rapid succession.  I predict 2 Pool C bids from the ODAC this year.

Agreed.  Though unless one of them falls apart in the next month, they may well deserve THREE Pool C bids.