Posters' Poll

smedindy · February 12, 2013, 07:47:57 PM

First time all season I was the outlier. I had OWU 25th. But I noticed a big mistake in that I totally omitted Whitworth by accident. I erased them in my spreadsheet and didn't add them back in (which would have been about 14th). The net effect would be OWU would lose a vote. Whitworth would climb above Williams and Stevens would fall under MIT (since I had Stevens ranked and MIT not..)

Mr. Ypsi · February 12, 2013, 08:15:23 PM

Quote from: smedindy on February 12, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
First time all season I was the outlier. I had OWU 25th. But I noticed a big mistake in that I totally omitted Whitworth by accident. I erased them in my spreadsheet and didn't add them back in (which would have been about 14th). The net effect would be OWU would lose a vote. Whitworth would climb above Williams and Stevens would fall under MIT (since I had Stevens ranked and MIT not..)

I very nearly asked you about Whitworth, but they DID lose 2 in a row and some others ranked them pretty low. Omitting them completely didn't seem enough out of line to follow up. As you note, the changes would be comparatively minor.

7express · February 12, 2013, 10:22:21 PM

St. Thomas 325 (unanimous)
2. IWU 287 (2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,5,6,10)
3. NCC 274 (2,2,3,4,4,4,5,5,6,6,6,7,10)
4. Rochester 256 (2,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,7,7,7,9,20)
5. Amherst 255 (2,2,3,4,4,5,6,6,6,7,10,12,16)
6. UWSP 234 (3,5,5,5,5,7,7,9,10,11,11,11,15)
7. Middlebury 231 (2,2,3,4,6,7,7,8,10,11,14,16,17)
8. St.Mary's 203 (3,6,7,8,8,9,10,11,12,12,14,16,19)
9. UWW 198 (4,4,5,6,8,11,11,12,12,15,15,16,21)
10 HSC 197 (2,2,5,8,8,9,13,13,15,15,15,16,20)
11 WPI 192 (2,4,5,5,6,8,8,11,12,16,19,24,-)
12 Catholic 176 (4,8,9,9,10,11,12,14,15,15,17,17,21)
13 Wooster 175 (7,8,8,9,10,10,10,14,15,15,15,16,-)
14 Williams 158 (7,9,9,10,12,13,13,14,16,16,19,20,22)
15 Whitworth 157 (6,9,9,9,11,11,13,14,14,18,20,21,-)
16 WashU 139 (10,13,13,13,13,14,14,15,16,19,19,19,21)
17 RHIT 121 (8,8,10,13,17,17,18,19,20,21,22,22,22)
18 Calvin 115 (9,12,13,14,17,17,18,18,18,20,20,21,-)
19 Wheaton 102 (12,13,14,14,15,18,18,19,20,21,22,24,-)
20 Ramapo 93 (11,12,12,18,19,19,19,20,20,21,23,25,-)
21 UMHB 82 (12,16,16,18,18,18,20,21,22,22,23,24,-)
22 RIC 52 (16,17,19,19,21,22,23,23,24,24,-,-,-)
23 Cortland St. 40 (17,20,21,22,22,23,23,24,24,25,25,-,-)
24 Transy 35 (14,17,21,23,24,24,25,25,-,-,-,-,-)
t25 Stevens 28 (17,20,23,23,24,25,25,25,25,25,-,-,-)
t25 MIT 28 (17,18,21,23,24,25,-,-,-,-,-,-,-)

27 UW-Stout 23 (11,18)
28 Randolph 16 (13,23)
29 Alvernia 12 17,23)
30 Concordia TX 5 (23,24)
t31 Augie 4 (22)
t31 St. Norbert 4 (22)
t31 Wesley 4 (22)
34 Emory 2 (24)
t35 OWU 1
t35 Thomas More 1

Yes, I'm the lone one that didn't vote for Wheaton. A 1 point win at home against a 6-6 (albeit good one) team and a 10 point win against a 4-8 team wrapped around that beating at the hands of IWU does nothing for me.

FCGrizzliesGrad · February 12, 2013, 10:26:48 PM

1. St. Thomas 325 (unan1mous)
2. IWU* 287 (2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,5,6,10)
3. NCC 274 (2,2,3,4,4,4,5,5,6,6,6,7,10)
4. Rochester 256 (2,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,7,7,7,9,20)
5. Amherst 255 (2,2,3,4,4,5,6,6,6,7,10,12,16)
6. UWSP 234 (3,5,5,5,5,7,7,9,10,11,11,11,15)
7. Middlebury 231 (2,2,3,4,6,7,7,8,10,11,14,16,17)
8. St.Mary's 203 (3,6,7,8,8,9,10,11,12,12,14,16,19)
9. UWW 198 (4,4,5,6,8,11,11,12,12,15,15,16,21)
10 HSC 197 (2,2,5,8,8,9,13,13,15,15,15,16,20)
11 WPI 192 (2,4,5,5,6,8,8,11,12,16,19,24,-)
12 Catholic 176 (4,8,9,9,10,11,12,14,15,15,17,17,21)
13 Wooster 175 (7,8,8,9,10,10,10,14,15,15,15,16,-)
14 Williams 158 (7,9,9,10,12,13,13,14,16,16,19,20,22)
15 Whitworth 157 (6,9,9,9,11,11,13,14,14,18,20,21,-)
16 WashU 139 (10,13,13,13,13,14,14,15,16,19,19,19,21)
17 RHIT 121 (8,8,10,13,17,17,18,19,20,21,22,22,22)
18 Calvin 115 (9,12,13,14,17,17,18,18,18,20,20,21,-)
19 Wheaton 102 (12,13,14,14,15,18,18,19,20,21,22,24,-)
20 Ramapo 93 (11,12,12,18,19,19,19,20,20,21,23,25,-)
21 UMHB 82 (12,16,16,18,18,18,20,21,22,22,23,24,-)
22 RIC 52 (16,17,19,19,21,22,23,23,24,24,-,-,-)
23 Cortland St. 40 (17,20,21,22,22,23,23,24,24,25,25,-,-)
24 Transy 35 (14,17,21,23,24,24,25,25,-,-,-,-,-)
t25 Stevens* 28 (17,20,23,23,24,25,25,25,25,25,-,-,-)
t25 MIT 28 (17,18,21,23,24,25,-,-,-,-,-,-,-)

27 UW-Stout 23 (11,18)
28 Randolph 16 (13,23)
29 Alvernia 12 17,23)
30 Concordia TX 5 (23,24)
t31 Augie 4 (22)
t31 St. Norbert 4 (22)
t31 Wesley 4 (22)
34 Emory 2 (24)
t35 OWU 1
t35 Thomas More* 1 (25)

Mr. Ypsi · February 12, 2013, 11:08:31 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 12, 2013, 08:15:23 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 12, 2013, 07:47:57 PM
First time all season I was the outlier. I had OWU 25th. But I noticed a big mistake in that I totally omitted Whitworth by accident. I erased them in my spreadsheet and didn't add them back in (which would have been about 14th). The net effect would be OWU would lose a vote. Whitworth would climb above Williams and Stevens would fall under MIT (since I had Stevens ranked and MIT not..)

I very nearly asked you about Whitworth, but they DID lose 2 in a row and some others ranked them pretty low. Omitting them completely didn't seem enough out of line to follow up. As you note, the changes would be comparatively minor.

I now see that last week you (like several of us) had Whitworth at #2. If I had noted that at the time, I certainly would have checked back with you - probably no one would go from #2 to out entirely on account of losses to the #2 and #3 teams in their conference! My bad!

Lesson: everyone triple-check your ballots! I'll try to do better myself, but you have only one ballot, I have many!

sac · February 12, 2013, 11:24:11 PM

Quote from: 7express on February 12, 2013, 10:22:21 PM
Yes, I'm the lone one that didn't vote for Wheaton. A 1 point win at home against a 6-6 (albeit good one) team and a 10 point win against a 4-8 team wrapped around that beating at the hands of IWU does nothing for me.

Curious, because Wheaton has wins over your #13, a win over your #6, and a win over your #18

I have Wheaton #12

sac · February 12, 2013, 11:30:00 PM

Well if you're like me you've had trouble separating the three NESCAC teams. Tonight Amherst beat Middlebury 104-101 in 3OT's.

http://www.nescac.com/sports/mbkb/2012-13/boxscores/20130212_bwhn.xml

Clears everything right up.

Greek Tragedy · February 13, 2013, 05:40:02 AM

Posters' Poll, thru games of 2-10-13:

1. St. Thomas 325 (unan1mous)
2. IWU 287 (2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,5,6,10)
3. NCC 274 (2,2,3,4,4,4,5,5,6,6,6,7,10)
4. Rochester 256 (2,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,7,7,7,9,20)
5. Amherst* 255 (2,2,3,4,4,5,6,6,6,7,10,12,16)
6. UWSP 234 (3,5,5,5,5,7,7,9,10,11,11,11,15)
7. Middlebury 231 (2,2,3,4,6,7,7,8,10,11,14,16,17)
8. St.Mary's 203 (3,6,7,8,8,9,10,11,12,12,14,16,19)
9. UWW 198 (4,4,5,6,8,11,11,12,12,15,15,16,21)
10 HSC 197 (2,2,5,8,8,9,13,13,15,15,15,16,20)
11 WPI 192 (2,4,5,5,6,8,8,11,12,16,19,24,-)
12 Catholic 176 (4,8,9,9,10,11,12,14,15,15,17,17,21)
13 Wooster* 175 (7,8,8,9,10,10,10,14,15,15,15,16,-)
14 Williams 158 (7,9,9,10,12,13,13,14,16,16,19,20,22)
15 Whitworth 157 (6,9,9,9,11,11,13,14,14,18,20,21,-)
16 WashU 139 (10,13,13,13,13,14,14,15,16,19,19,19,21)
17 RHIT 121 (8,8,10,13,17,17,18,19,20,21,22,22,22)
18 Calvin 115 (9,12,13,14,17,17,18,18,18,20,20,21,-)
19 Wheaton 102 (12,13,14,14,15,18,18,19,20,21,22,24,-)
20 Ramapo 93 (11,12,12,18,19,19,19,20,20,21,23,25,-)
21 UMHB 82 (12,16,16,18,18,18,20,21,22,22,23,24,-)
22 RIC 52 (16,17,19,19,21,22,23,23,24,24,-,-,-)
23 Cortland St. 40 (17,20,21,22,22,23,23,24,24,25,25,-,-)
24 Transy 35 (14,17,21,23,24,24,25,25,-,-,-,-,-)
t25 Stevens 28 (17,20,23,23,24,25,25,25,25,25,-,-,-)
t25 MIT 28 (17,18,21,23,24,25,-,-,-,-,-,-,-)

27 UW-Stout 23 (11,18)
28 Randolph 16 (13,23)
29 Alvernia 12 17,23)
30 Concordia TX 5 (23,24)
t31 Augie 4 (22)
t31 St. Norbert 4 (22)
t31 Wesley 4 (22)
34 Emory 2 (24)
t35 OWU 1
t35 Thomas More 1

I think that's the 1st time I've had all 25 of my picks in the poll. I reluctantly dropped Stout out after losing to La Crosse.

Mr. Ypsi · February 14, 2013, 08:50:20 PM

Quote from: sac on February 12, 2013, 11:30:00 PM
Well if you're like me you've had trouble separating the three NESCAC teams. Tonight Amherst beat Middlebury 104-101 in 3OT's.

http://www.nescac.com/sports/mbkb/2012-13/boxscores/20130212_bwhn.xml

Clears everything right up.

The result fits my ballot perfectly since I had Amherst 2 and Midd 3 - probably not gonna change anything!

Ralph Turner · February 14, 2013, 09:13:33 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 12, 2013, 07:08:33 PM
Posters' Poll, thru games of 2-10-13:

1. St. Thomas 325 (unanimous)
2. IWU 287 (2,2,3,3,3,3,3,3,4,4,5,6,10)
3. NCC* 274 (2,2,3,4,4,4,5,5,6,6,6,7,10)
4. Rochester 256 (2,2,3,3,4,5,6,7,7,7,7,9,20)
5. Amherst 255 (2,2,3,4,4,5,6,6,6,7,10,12,16)
6. UWSP* 234 (3,5,5,5,5,7,7,9,10,11,11,11,15)
7. Middlebury 231 (2,2,3,4,6,7,7,8,10,11,14,16,17)
8. St.Mary's 203 (3,6,7,8,8,9,10,11,12,12,14,16,19)
9. UWW 198 (4,4,5,6,8,11,11,12,12,15,15,16,21)
10 HSC* 197 (2,2,5,8,8,9,13,13,15,15,15,16,20)
11 WPI 192 (2,4,5,5,6,8,8,11,12,16,19,24,-)
12 Catholic* 176 (4,8,9,9,10,11,12,14,15,15,17,17,21)
13 Wooster 175 (7,8,8,9,10,10,10,14,15,15,15,16,-)
14 Williams* 158 (7,9,9,10,12,13,13,14,16,16,19,20,22)
15 Whitworth 157 (6,9,9,9,11,11,13,14,14,18,20,21,-)
16 WashU 139 (10,13,13,13,13,14,14,15,16,19,19,19,21)
17 RHIT 121 (8,8,10,13,17,17,18,19,20,21,22,22,22)
18 Calvin 115 (9,12,13,14,17,17,18,18,18,20,20,21,-)
19 Wheaton 102 (12,13,14,14,15,18,18,19,20,21,22,24,-)
20 Ramapo * 93 (11,12,12,18,19,19,19,20,20,21,23,25,-)
21 UMHB 82 (12,16,16,18,18,18,20,21,22,22,23,24,-)
22 RIC 52 (16,17,19,19,21,22,23,23,24,24,-,-,-)
23 Cortland St. 40 (17,20,21,22,22,23,23,24,24,25,25,-,-)
24 Transy 35 (14,17,21,23,24,24,25,25,-,-,-,-,-)
t25 Stevens 28 (17,20,23,23,24,25,25,25,25,25,-,-,-)
t25 MIT 28 (17,18,21,23,24,25,-,-,-,-,-,-,-)

27 UW-Stout 23 (11,18)
28 Randolph 16 (13,23)
29 Alvernia 12 17,23)
30 Concordia TX 5 (23,24)
t31 Augie 4 (22)
t31 St. Norbert 4 (22)
t31 Wesley 4 (22)
34 Emory 2 (24)
t35 OWU 1
t35 Thomas More 1

I can never remember having so many outliers, but I have never predicted all 26 of the members of a Top 25!

Ralph Turner · February 17, 2013, 08:48:12 PM

Mine is in. Lots of teams lost down the stretch. Must be season-fatigue getting to them..
Thanks Mr Ypsi! +1!

7express · February 17, 2013, 09:45:47 PM

Just sent mine in. I think I'm going to have a bunch of outliers this week.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) · February 18, 2013, 01:50:37 PM

Just sent mine in. It's a royal mess.

Are we doing one more next week or will we wait until after the tournament?

Whenever the next one is, I'll be going back to the beginning and picking teams from scratch. It's been a crazy season.

Greek Tragedy · February 18, 2013, 02:10:40 PM

Mines in

Mr. Ypsi · February 18, 2013, 02:22:41 PM

Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 18, 2013, 01:50:37 PM

Just sent mine in. It's a royal mess.

Are we doing one more next week or will we wait until after the tournament?

Whenever the next one is, I'll be going back to the beginning and picking teams from scratch. It's been a crazy season.

Well do next week, then wait 'til after the tourney.