MBB: USA South Conference

[cnububba]

Made the trip down to NCW yesterday with friends to enjoy a little barbecue and watch the women play .  Oh yea there was a men's game also. 

CJ said two weeks ago on the post game and I about fell out of my chair, "I'm still looking for the right combination."  Hello?!  Still?!  Make a decision and live with it. 

Paul did a nice job at the point yesterday.  Good grief, the kid sat for a month, so kudos to him.  B'game hurt an ankle or something in the first half.  Completely changed the inside game.  Late in the second half, for what must have been six minutes, CNU had NO three point shooters on the court.  Going, Taylor, Herrmann, Green, Preston on the court.   We were down between 15 and 17.  Russell, Baker, Capin our best three point shooters sat.  Russell came on late to cut what was otherwise a rout to ten.  Nice game Conley Taylor.  Our "4s" are a fundamental wreck.  Play Preston at the four, with him and B'game on the front line we'll get some rebounds.  At least they attempt to block out.

My vote for POTY; hands down Trey Drake.   Other than Derrick Mitchell, no one comes close.   

[cnububba]

On other note, I hesitate to mention this one.   Sat with the CNU fans and parents.  I don't agree with some of  CJ's coaching decisions.  Ok most of them.   But it is terribly disruptive for parents to try and coach from the sidelines.   I can only imagine how it lends to divisiveness on the team.   Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there is a fine line between being a concerned fan/parent or downright unruly.  CJ, Ross and Waters are the coaches,  whether we like it or not.   Good luck to the team, especially the seniors,  the rest of the way.     

[CaptJ]

On other note, I hesitate to mention this one.   Sat with the CNU fans and parents.  I don't agree with some of  CJ's coaching decisions.  Ok most of them.   But it is terribly disruptive for parents to try and coach from the sidelines.   I can only imagine how it lends to divisiveness on the team.   Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there is a fine line between being a concerned fan/parent or downright unruly.  CJ, Ross and Waters are the coaches,  whether we like it or not.   Good luck to the team, especially the seniors,  the rest of the way.     

Divisive and unruly parents are certainly nothing new.  Sure, they should be more supportive, but I suspect that both the players and the coaches are well accustomed to it.

[CaptJ]

So here is my prediction.  Remaining conference wins against Ferrum, Greensboro and MU leave CJ with 499 wins.  A devastating first round upset loss against Ferrum ends the CNU season and leaves CJ with the entire off season to contemplate why small and quick didn't do the trick.

This is very similar to my own comment earlier this year.  I said that CNU would lose their first round game.  Now, I'm not so sure.  I agree they will get 3 more wins in the regular season to take CJ's total to 499.  If we win three to get to 7-5 we will get to host that first round game.  If that happens I think our players will recognize how important that game is.  They will recognize that if they lose that game the entire season will be considered a miserable failure.  That THEY will be miserable failures.  I think we will win that game and CJ will have his 500th, and that within a month after the end of the season we will hear an announcement from the CNU AD that CJ has retired.

That's my perdiction and I'm stickin to it.

[CNU85]

All the comments about the Efficiency Rating got me to wondering - what's the highest score you've ever seen? - in DIII or, for that matter, in any game?  To refresh your memory, ER is:

(Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Shots attempted - shots made) + (Free throws attemped - free throws made) + Turnovers)) = ER

I reported that Guilford's Tyler Sanborn had an outstanding 46 on Wednesday night versus Roanoke:  (29 + 18 + 3 + 1 + 4) - ((15 - 11) + (9 - 7) + 3) = 46, but ...

I thought of one better - Ben Strong versus Lincoln U. in the 2007 DIII Sweet 16:

(59 + 17 + 3 + 1 + 4) - ((27 - 20) + (22 - 19) + 6) = 68

What's the best Efficiency Rating you can find?  I'll be curious to see what we come up with!

Someone do the math for the game Wilt Chamberlain hit 100 pts in one game!!

[CNU85]

Something is really troubling me.  CNU is 1-3 in OT games this year.  It seems to me that a team that is essentially a .500 team might get a lot of OT games.  Certainly more than a team that is undefeated, or one that is winless.  But I see this as another indication that we play to the level of the competition.  Why don't we hit the jumper or convert the free throw that will win it in regulation?  And why don't we win it once we do go into the extra period?  Are we content that we have demonstrated that we can play with the team, so we ease up?  Don't we have the requisite killer instinct?   

and a one point loss in regulation. I was thinking about that....a team in general, not just CNU, that plays to level of competition. What is the root cause? Ideas?

[CNU85]

Something is really troubling me.  CNU is 1-3 in OT games this year.  It seems to me that a team that is essentially a .500 team might get a lot of OT games.  Certainly more than a team that is undefeated, or one that is winless.  But I see this as another indication that we play to the level of the competition.  Why don't we hit the jumper or convert the free throw that will win it in regulation?  And why don't we win it once we do go into the extra period?  Are we content that we have demonstrated that we can play with the team, so we ease up?  Don't we have the requisite killer instinct?   

Maybe you guys just aren't that good? CNU is a quality program but its a down year.  They are young and there isn't a Barton type kid on the roster.  Blasingame and Baker just don't seem interested at times. Green was overated last year and reality has hit. Other than Parham nobody scores from the PG position. Its just not CNU's year.  I do see a bright future for Capin, he should be doing a little bit more transferring from a D-1 program though.

Capin was a walk on at D1 Campbell and played in only 10 games. So for a guy who only played 10 games since high school, he's doing just fine!

[CNU85]

On other note, I hesitate to mention this one.   Sat with the CNU fans and parents.  I don't agree with some of  CJ's coaching decisions.  Ok most of them.   But it is terribly disruptive for parents to try and coach from the sidelines.   I can only imagine how it lends to divisiveness on the team.   Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there is a fine line between being a concerned fan/parent or downright unruly.  CJ, Ross and Waters are the coaches,  whether we like it or not.   Good luck to the team, especially the seniors,  the rest of the way.     

Divisive and unruly parents are certainly nothing new.  Sure, they should be more supportive, but I suspect that both the players and the coaches are well accustomed to it.

Reminds me of the time when my son started playing high school baseball. The coach pulled him aside during at the end of practice and chatted. I asked the coach what it was about. He told me when it is on the field it is not my concern. If I needed to be involved he would call me. Very strict but truthful. It was baseball talk. Oh - that same coach had the #1 team in the Nation this past year!!

Parents - let the coach do his job. If you're that much better, go take his job!

[CNU85]

I've been away for awhile. Too much going on. In a nutshell.....if CNU played every game the way they play St Mary's they would be 15-4. A lot of talent, just not together as a team. I have some ideas as to why, but I have to keep my mouth closed. My daughter is friends with a couple of the guys on the team.

[CaptJ]

I've been away for awhile. Too much going on. In a nutshell.....if CNU played every game the way they play St Mary's they would be 15-4. A lot of talent, just not together as a team. I have some ideas as to why, but I have to keep my mouth closed. My daughter is friends with a couple of the guys on the team.

Hey 85, welcome back.  Question for you... since CNU doesnt seem to have a clear cut best 6 or 7 guys, do you think they should play 10 of them 20 minutes a game and run a hectic, run-and-gun offense?  It would be hard for a few of them, like B'game, but I think he could do it for 20 minutes in 4 minute stretches.

[hasanova]

All the comments about the Efficiency Rating got me to wondering - what's the highest score you've ever seen? - in DIII or, for that matter, in any game?  To refresh your memory, ER is:

(Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Shots attempted - shots made) + (Free throws attemped - free throws made) + Turnovers)) = ER

I reported that Guilford's Tyler Sanborn had an outstanding 46 on Wednesday night versus Roanoke:  (29 + 18 + 3 + 1 + 4) - ((15 - 11) + (9 - 7) + 3) = 46, but ...

I thought of one better - Ben Strong versus Lincoln U. in the 2007 DIII Sweet 16:

(59 + 17 + 3 + 1 + 4) - ((27 - 20) + (22 - 19) + 6) = 68

What's the best Efficiency Rating you can find?  I'll be curious to see what we come up with!

Someone do the math for the game Wilt Chamberlain hit 100 pts in one game!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain's_100-point_game

Hmmmm.  The boxscores didn't used to be as complete as they are now, but here's what we do know:  100 points, 25 rebounds, 36 of 63 FG's and an amazing (for Wilt!) 28 of 32 FT's.  Steals, Assists, Blocks and Turnovers - who knows?  So, if we just use what we have:

(100 + 25 + 0 + 0 + 0) - (27 + 4 + 0) = 94

Not too shabby!  I'll be willing to bet he had no assists!  

[CaptJ]

All the comments about the Efficiency Rating got me to wondering - what's the highest score you've ever seen? - in DIII or, for that matter, in any game?  To refresh your memory, ER is:

(Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) - ((Shots attempted - shots made) + (Free throws attemped - free throws made) + Turnovers)) = ER

I reported that Guilford's Tyler Sanborn had an outstanding 46 on Wednesday night versus Roanoke:  (29 + 18 + 3 + 1 + 4) - ((15 - 11) + (9 - 7) + 3) = 46, but ...

I thought of one better - Ben Strong versus Lincoln U. in the 2007 DIII Sweet 16:

(59 + 17 + 3 + 1 + 4) - ((27 - 20) + (22 - 19) + 6) = 68

What's the best Efficiency Rating you can find?  I'll be curious to see what we come up with!

Someone do the math for the game Wilt Chamberlain hit 100 pts in one game!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain's_100-point_game

Hmmmm.  The boxscores didn't used to be as complete as they are now, but here's what we do know:  100 points, 25 rebounds, 36 of 63 FG's and an amazing (for Wilt!) 28 of 32 FT's.  Steals, Assists, Blocks and Turnovers - who knows?  So, if we just use what we have:

(100 + 25 + 0 + 0 + 0) - (27 + 4 + 0) = 94

Not too shabby!  I'll be willing to bet he had no assists!  

That's probably true.  LOL.  And my guess is that his ablocks+steals were probably close to his turnover total, so I think this total is probably accurate.  Anyone who has the ball that much is certain to turn it over a time or two.  Wow, 63 FG attempts! 

This really makes your guy's 68 all the more impressive.

[hasanova]

One thing to remember in a pro game: it's 48 minutes versus 40 for college.  If you read the story I attached about the Philadelphia/New York game, it was a relatively meaningless end of season game and the Warriors were feeding the ball to Chamberlain almost every time.  Injuries for the Knicks also meant Wilt was often being "guarded" by the 3rd-string center. 

Also, in Ben Strong's game, it was triple overtime, so it was 55 minutes.

With these comments said, however, they were both amazing games.  Wilt's game was 169-147 and Guilford's was 129-128, so every one of Ben's 59 was needed!

[cnufanatic]

Hello D3hoops, i've been at every one of CNU's home games this year and I really couldn't help myself but to comment of the lack of achievement for the mens basketball team.  Is it coaching? Hard to tell due to the lack of effort that cnu shows on the court.  I think this stems from coaching, the body language of the players show that they have no respect for the head coach.  First off, half of the players on the bench look like they are not happy to be on the team and show no support for the players in the game.  Now lets get to the rotation or lack of rotation, CJ needs to find a solid five that will commit to being great.  Lets start with the point guards.  Paul Going was a good desicion to start off the season, he knew the system ran the plays and didn't make mistakes.  Coming off the bench with Parham seemed like a good idea from the start, but then its quite obvious that he is not ready to finish games and run the team.  CJ needs to see that he has not been able to win ANY close games this whole season.  He plays good when the team needs a spark but has shown he is no where near ready to run the team.  Now with the wings, in since CJ doesn't wanna play a traditional 3 man such as thomas whinnett in the past.  Josh Russell has proven that he is a good shooter, but sometimes takes illadvised shots and seems to get down when he gets pulled out of the game.  Theo Baker is in somewhat in the same situation and seems to perform better off the bench.  He is a senior and does a good job playing defense and would like to see him get some more playing time.  Conley Taylor has really put the team on his shoulders during a rough spell of the season, but needs to not let bad calls and no foul calls get to his head.  With Capin, he showed signs of being a great shooter, but due to other teams being able to scout, he has been shut down.  He needs to understand that he is a spot up shooter and THATS IT!!  Him trying to handle the ball and make plays actually hurts the team.  Mike Green is coming off an all conference season, BUT he has not played within himself this year.  He has taken way to many shots this season, not to mention at some points when he is being tripled teamed.  I want to be a fan of Green, but he needs to make some adjustments in his game, and know his role.  With Hermann, I really like his hustle, I think hes buying into the system, but needs to cut down his turnovers and make better desicions.  I like to see him playing the 3, which makes the captains much better at rebounding.  Blasingame was a preseason all american who might be one of the best players in CNU history, and I still think he is underachieving.  He doesnt look interested and doesnt realize that he is the best player on the team by far.  With preston, he needs to work on finishing around the rim, but he does a good job hustling.  Lets move on to the Coach.......This is my personal letter to you, please realize who you are playing when it matters at the end of the game.  First off, play a PG that will that will make good desicions, bc CNU has lost around 5 that could have really went CNU's way.  Other then that he needs to discipline his players, you would think that a coach who has won almost 500 games, would get more respect from his players. 

[CaptJ]

cnufanatic going strong to the hoop!  +1 for your very first post.